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MrShanks2U  [Member]
2/8/2009 11:22:38 PM
Not sure if this is the right forum for this, if not, please delete/lock this thread u352.

How does one go about claiming an abandoned vehicle that is in an apartment parking lot? The vehicle in question, I believe is owned by a gentleman who was evicted from my complex over 6 months ago. The license plate on the car expired 11/2007 as did the inspection, so obviously this vehicle hasn't been driven in quite some time (I know for a fact that it has sat in the same parking spot since I moved in back in June 2008). The one thing I do know about the claiming process is that since the car is not on property that I own, then the owner of the apartment complex would have to file the paperwork. But I am lost after that. If it's possible, what steps do I need to take to get the title to that vehicle and claim it as mine now? I tried contacting the DMV about the matter but that was more of a headache than waiting in line at one of their "fine" facilities. I'm going to contact them again for more answers, I just wanted to see if anyone on here has any experience in this matter or knows a thing or two.
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drizzle  [Member]
2/9/2009 9:18:41 AM
You cannot just claim an abandoned vehicle. the only way to move for the title of a vehicle is if the oner of vehicle owes you money. I.E. loan, or repair bills on the vehicle. then you have to file for the title. mail the owner a copy of every thing and then if the onwer wants to they can contest it in court. then you are before a judge to try and convince him why you are owed the car. it is more trouble than it is worth 90 percent of the time. after the file fees and lawyer fees, you could have just bought another car at that point.
Clownshoes  [Member]
2/9/2009 9:38:58 AM
Surprised whoever manages the apartments hasn't had it towed yet.
MrShanks2U  [Member]
2/9/2009 11:49:28 AM
Originally Posted By drizzle:
You cannot just claim an abandoned vehicle.


Sure you can. There are just different procedures to follow depending on whether it's on your land or someone else's land.


Originally Posted By Clownshoes:
Surprised whoever manages the apartments hasn't had it towed yet.


It's sitting in a parking lot that is separate from the main parking lot. So they can't see it. But that separate parking is lot is still owned by the complex.
Pinz  [Member]
2/9/2009 6:19:44 PM
Unless the law has changed since I was last an LEO here in NC, the owner of the property can call someone to tow it away after only 3 days of being abandoned. Once a Tow company gets it, they are owed money for the tow so they can file a "Mechanic's Lein" after 90 days and request a title from NCDMV. This happens routinely and is why you see so many cheap cars being sold by local tow services. If you could convince the property manager to call a tow service that you knew or could get to know, you should be able to get the car after a few months by working something out with the tow service.

Just curious.....why do you want this particular car so bad?
JosephTurrisi  [Member]
2/9/2009 6:47:49 PM
So why do you think you have a right to lay claim to somebody elses property if they don't owe you any money. Have you ever stop to think this person might have permission from the land owner to leave his car there for one reason or another and that is why it hasn't been remove. Judgeing from your post it is none of you buisiness and you have no legit claim to said property. It sounds to me that you are one of those people who are always wanting something for nothing and are sticking your nose in buisness that does not concern you which is part of what is worng with the world today. Imagin you are down on you luck because you lost your job or had medical bills or any other reason and when you finally get back on you feet you found out someone took advantage of you buy claiming your property that in no way belong to them. If you want this car so bad why don't you find the owner and offer to buy it from him/her instead of trying to find a legal way to steal it
tarheel_shooter  [Member]
2/9/2009 9:55:51 PM
Originally Posted By Pinz:
Unless the law has changed since I was last an LEO here in NC, the owner of the property can call someone to tow it away after only 3 days of being abandoned. Once a Tow company gets it, they are owed money for the tow so they can file a "Mechanic's Lein" after 90 days and request a title from NCDMV. This happens routinely and is why you see so many cheap cars being sold by local tow services. If you could convince the property manager to call a tow service that you knew or could get to know, you should be able to get the car after a few months by working something out with the tow service.

Just curious.....why do you want this particular car so bad?


This is the route that I would suggest.
Or you could call the License and Theft division of DMV 919-861-3131,explain the situation and see what options are available.
sonofagun2012  [Team Member]
2/9/2009 11:06:01 PM
Originally Posted By JosephTurrisi:
So why do you think you have a right to lay claim to somebody elses property if they don't owe you any money. Have you ever stop to think this person might have permission from the land owner to leave his car there for one reason or another and that is why it hasn't been remove. Judgeing from your post it is none of you buisiness and you have no legit claim to said property. It sounds to me that you are one of those people who are always wanting something for nothing and are sticking your nose in buisness that does not concern you which is part of what is worng with the world today. Imagin you are down on you luck because you lost your job or had medical bills or any other reason and when you finally get back on you feet you found out someone took advantage of you buy claiming your property that in no way belong to them. If you want this car so bad why don't you find the owner and offer to buy it from him/her instead of trying to find a legal way to steal it


UMMM....Did you not read that this is a abandoned vehicle. I don't think he is trying to get something for nothing here. Sounds like alot of work to go about getting this vehicle. I do however recommend finding out the story behind the vehicle and maybe the owner and offering to buy it. Good luck let us know what happens.
MrShanks2U  [Member]
2/10/2009 12:04:40 AM
Originally Posted By JosephTurrisi:
So why do you think you have a right to lay claim to somebody elses property if they don't owe you any money. Have you ever stop to think this person might have permission from the land owner to leave his car there for one reason or another and that is why it hasn't been remove. Judgeing from your post it is none of you buisiness and you have no legit claim to said property. It sounds to me that you are one of those people who are always wanting something for nothing and are sticking your nose in buisness that does not concern you which is part of what is worng with the world today. Imagin you are down on you luck because you lost your job or had medical bills or any other reason and when you finally get back on you feet you found out someone took advantage of you buy claiming your property that in no way belong to them. If you want this car so bad why don't you find the owner and offer to buy it from him/her instead of trying to find a legal way to steal it


Who are you? You must be some one special since you seem to know so much about me. Or maybe, you just didn't read my OP. Try going back and reading it carefully. Look at my choice of words. The guy that I think owns the vehicle was evicted. The vehicle's tag and inspection ran out in November 2007. I know for a fact that it has not moved since June 2008. And why would an apartment complex give permission to anyone to park their broken down vehicle in their parking lot for that long?

Judging from YOUR post, you sound like one of those "internet experts." Possibly a "internet thug" who likes to post in someone's thread (even though they have nothing relevant to offer to the topic) and start flaming and telling them that they should mind their own business.

I am not the type of person who wants anything for nothing. I bust my @$$ day in and day out to provide myself with all the things I want/need. If I wanted anything for nothing, I would just steal it. But that is illegal, and I am not a criminal. What's really wrong with the world today is people like you....people who insult others that they presume to know and try to start a ruckus. You don't know what the circumstances are other than what I have told. So unless you have any relevant information to give me....then YOU need to mind your own business and stop flaming in my posts. Have a good day!

Originally Posted By sonofagun2012:
UMMM....Did you not read that this is a abandoned vehicle. I don't think he is trying to get something for nothing here. Sounds like alot of work to go about getting this vehicle. I do however recommend finding out the story behind the vehicle and maybe the owner and offering to buy it. Good luck let us know what happens.


Thank you sir! You obviously read my post. I want to find out who the original owner is. Only thing is that the apartment complex won't give me any of his information and I can't just go downtown with the vehicles plate number or VIN. They stopped giving out that info a while back because of security reasons. This is why I'm looking into the "abandoned property" method because the vehicle is more than likely abandoned.

Originally Posted By Pinz:
Unless the law has changed since I was last an LEO here in NC, the owner of the property can call someone to tow it away after only 3 days of being abandoned. Once a Tow company gets it, they are owed money for the tow so they can file a "Mechanic's Lein" after 90 days and request a title from NCDMV. This happens routinely and is why you see so many cheap cars being sold by local tow services. If you could convince the property manager to call a tow service that you knew or could get to know, you should be able to get the car after a few months by working something out with the tow service.

Just curious.....why do you want this particular car so bad?


I don't necessarily want it "so bad." It's just a good looking truck that is more than likely abandoned. It's in good cosmetic shape minus the flat tire. Mechanically, I don't know if there is anything wrong. I just hate to see a truck go to waste like that. Especially since people seem to think the bed of it is a trashcan. Anyone own a towing company?
Clownshoes  [Member]
2/10/2009 12:13:04 PM
How would you go about getting keys for this thing?

This is actually pretty interesting...I don't think I ever would have thought about claiming abandoned cars until I saw this thread.
sonofagun2012  [Team Member]
2/10/2009 4:32:31 PM
[quote]Originally Posted By Clownshoes:
How would you go about getting keys for this thing?
quote]

You could get a key made at dealership with title to the car.
JosephTurrisi  [Member]
2/10/2009 11:01:35 PM
I read your post just find the first time and it was obvious that you are trying to find a way to clam someones elses property. You stated "The guy that I think owns the vehicle was evicted" which sounds like you really don't know who owns the car/truck in question. You then asked the question "And why would an apartment complex give permission to anyone to park their broken down vehicle in their parking lot for that long? " I can think of a few reasons first maybe the landlord just felt sorry for the person after having evicted him and allowed him to leave it there until he can get back on his feet people by nature do strange things like this all the time. Maybe the landlord is holding the vehicle as collateral for back rent or maybe the landlord is in the process of trying to get the vehicle in their name so they can sell it to recoup lost rent or damages.
As to the type of person I am I tell it like I see it if your feelings get hurt to bad. I also went out of my way today to try a find you an answer by talking to a friend who is a shierffs deputy who said that unless the owner of the vehicle owed you money you can't clam it because you think it is abandon. He said that only the owners of the property where the vehicle is located can lay legal clam to it or they can have it towed away. I also spent over an hour searching the North Carolina General Statutes for any law concerning abandon vehicles here's what I found (§ 20-137.10. Abandoned and derelict vehicles to be tagged; determination of value). There are several sections under statute 20-137.10 but none of them appeared to have any thing to do with what you are wanting to do. With that being said and since you think I'm a internet thug which I'm not and in order to not hurt your feelings anymore and pevent this from turning into a pissing match I will not post here again.
MrShanks2U  [Member]
2/11/2009 12:32:33 AM
Originally Posted By JosephTurrisi:
I read your post just find the first time and it was obvious that you are trying to find a way to clam someones elses property. You stated "The guy that I think owns the vehicle was evicted" which sounds like you really don't know who owns the car/truck in question. You then asked the question "And why would an apartment complex give permission to anyone to park their broken down vehicle in their parking lot for that long? " I can think of a few reasons first maybe the landlord just felt sorry for the person after having evicted him and allowed him to leave it there until he can get back on his feet people by nature do strange things like this all the time. Maybe the landlord is holding the vehicle as collateral for back rent or maybe the landlord is in the process of trying to get the vehicle in their name so they can sell it to recoup lost rent or damages.
As to the type of person I am I tell it like I see it if your feelings get hurt to bad. I also went out of my way today to try a find you an answer by talking to a friend who is a shierffs deputy who said that unless the owner of the vehicle owed you money you can't clam it because you think it is abandon. He said that only the owners of the property where the vehicle is located can lay legal clam to it or they can have it towed away. I also spent over an hour searching the North Carolina General Statutes for any law concerning abandon vehicles here's what I found (§ 20-137.10. Abandoned and derelict vehicles to be tagged; determination of value). There are several sections under statute 20-137.10 but none of them appeared to have any thing to do with what you are wanting to do. With that being said and since you think I'm a internet thug which I'm not and in order to not hurt your feelings anymore and pevent this from turning into a pissing match I will not post here again.


ONCE AGAIN!!! Read the posts...
Originally Posted By MrShanks2U:
I want to find out who the original owner is. Only thing is that the apartment complex won't give me any of his information and I can't just go downtown with the vehicles plate number or VIN. They stopped giving out that info a while back because of security reasons. This is why I'm looking into the "abandoned property" method because the vehicle is more than likely abandoned.

You are right, I do not know who owns the car. But that is why I stated that I want to find out. But since there is no other way for me to get his name and contact info, then I am left to consider claiming "abandoned property." Not once have I said that this is for sure what I am going to do. But that's why I posted in this forum...to see if anyone here knows the answer to my question.

I am not hurt by what you say. I just have a "NO TOLERANCE FOR A-HOLES" mindset. Let me point it out to you again, YOU came in to MY post and started flaming. I asked a simple question to see if anyone had an answer. And apparently, you had more than that to say. There was no need for what you did. And correct me if I am wrong, but isn't flaming against the rules of the forums?

Let me ask you this...why in the world would an apartment owner/manager feel sorry for someone they just evicted (for not paying their rent) by letting him/her keep their vehicle on the premises? That's kind of like getting caught robbing a bank because you are poor and the judicial system saying "Oh, we're sorry that you are poor, just keep half the money you stole and we'll forget this whole thing ever happened." And how could an apartment owner/manager hold his car for collateral? The person that owns the vehicle has the keys to the vehicle. They could just take it whenever they wanted. I've honestly never heard of an apartment complex taking a copy of the key to your car so they can hold your car for collateral if the situation arises. It just doesn't make any sense.

The last paragraph of your post was all that was needed for this discussion. You could have simply put "I talked to a sheriff buddy of mine and this is what he had to say....." That would have been enough.
JIMBEAM  [Team Member]
2/11/2009 9:08:00 AM
Originally Posted By JosephTurrisi:
I read your post just find the first time and it was obvious that you are trying to find a way to clam someones elses property. You stated "The guy that I think owns the vehicle was evicted" which sounds like you really don't know who owns the car/truck in question. You then asked the question "And why would an apartment complex give permission to anyone to park their broken down vehicle in their parking lot for that long? " I can think of a few reasons first maybe the landlord just felt sorry for the person after having evicted him and allowed him to leave it there until he can get back on his feet people by nature do strange things like this all the time. Maybe the landlord is holding the vehicle as collateral for back rent or maybe the landlord is in the process of trying to get the vehicle in their name so they can sell it to recoup lost rent or damages.
As to the type of person I am I tell it like I see it if your feelings get hurt to bad. I also went out of my way today to try a find you an answer by talking to a friend who is a shierffs deputy who said that unless the owner of the vehicle owed you money you can't clam it because you think it is abandon. He said that only the owners of the property where the vehicle is located can lay legal clam to it or they can have it towed away. I also spent over an hour searching the North Carolina General Statutes for any law concerning abandon vehicles here's what I found (§ 20-137.10. Abandoned and derelict vehicles to be tagged; determination of value). There are several sections under statute 20-137.10 but none of them appeared to have any thing to do with what you are wanting to do. With that being said and since you think I'm a internet thug which I'm not and in order to not hurt your feelings anymore and pevent this from turning into a pissing match I will not post here again.


I agree with Joseph. It's not your car and it's not on your property. Leave it alone.

If you don't want to hear what people think don't post on an open forum.

MrShanks2U  [Team Member]
2/11/2009 10:36:26 AM
Originally Posted By JIMBEAM:
Originally Posted By JosephTurrisi:
I read your post just find the first time and it was obvious that you are trying to find a way to clam someones elses property. You stated "The guy that I think owns the vehicle was evicted" which sounds like you really don't know who owns the car/truck in question. You then asked the question "And why would an apartment complex give permission to anyone to park their broken down vehicle in their parking lot for that long? " I can think of a few reasons first maybe the landlord just felt sorry for the person after having evicted him and allowed him to leave it there until he can get back on his feet people by nature do strange things like this all the time. Maybe the landlord is holding the vehicle as collateral for back rent or maybe the landlord is in the process of trying to get the vehicle in their name so they can sell it to recoup lost rent or damages.
As to the type of person I am I tell it like I see it if your feelings get hurt to bad. I also went out of my way today to try a find you an answer by talking to a friend who is a shierffs deputy who said that unless the owner of the vehicle owed you money you can't clam it because you think it is abandon. He said that only the owners of the property where the vehicle is located can lay legal clam to it or they can have it towed away. I also spent over an hour searching the North Carolina General Statutes for any law concerning abandon vehicles here's what I found (§ 20-137.10. Abandoned and derelict vehicles to be tagged; determination of value). There are several sections under statute 20-137.10 but none of them appeared to have any thing to do with what you are wanting to do. With that being said and since you think I'm a internet thug which I'm not and in order to not hurt your feelings anymore and pevent this from turning into a pissing match I will not post here again.


I agree with Joseph. It's not your car and it's not on your property. Leave it alone.

If you don't want to hear what people think don't post on an open forum.



I have no problem hearing what people have to say. I do have a problem with people who want to start insulting others for no reason. If you or he thinks that I should just leave it alone, then that's fine. All you need to say is that. But Joseph took it a little to far and made it personal when he started attacking me.
FreeFloater  [Member]
2/11/2009 4:21:35 PM
Is this a green truck in Charlotte off of Quail Hollow Rd?
MrShanks2U  [Team Member]
2/11/2009 9:59:16 PM
Originally Posted By FreeFloater:
Is this a green truck in Charlotte off of Quail Hollow Rd?


No...it's a red GMC Sonoma. It's an older truck but it looks damn good for it's age and I hate to see such a good looking truck waste away like it is.
MrShanks2U  [Team Member]
2/11/2009 10:02:47 PM
Originally Posted By sonofagun2012:
Originally Posted By Clownshoes:
How would you go about getting keys for this thing?


You could get a key made at dealership with title to the car.


This.

You could also get a locksmith to open the vehicle and then you could replace the ignition switch. But the you would have to get the doors re keyed to match the ignition. All in all, it would just be simpler to go to the dealership and have them cut a new one based on the VIN.
beeragent74  [Member]
2/12/2009 7:58:08 AM
You are right, I do not know who owns the car. But that is why I stated that I want to find out. But since there is no other way for me to get his name and contact info, then I am left to consider claiming "abandoned property

If your primary intent is to find the owner I believe there are websites that you can subscribe to that will provide owner information from license plates. This might be the easiest and most inexpensive route. If you can get a hold of the owner I'm sure he would sell you the vehicle cheap as he has already written it off as a loss.
MrShanks2U  [Team Member]
2/12/2009 10:40:43 AM
Originally Posted By beeragent74:
You are right, I do not know who owns the car. But that is why I stated that I want to find out. But since there is no other way for me to get his name and contact info, then I am left to consider claiming "abandoned property

If your primary intent is to find the owner I believe there are websites that you can subscribe to that will provide owner information from license plates. This might be the easiest and most inexpensive route. If you can get a hold of the owner I'm sure he would sell you the vehicle cheap as he has already written it off as a loss.


Yea, I tried looking around online at some of those sites. They list the info that they provide with one of their checks. But none of them list owner name and contact info. They all just list the number of previous owners. I'm sure if I could just get a hold of him then he probably would sell it to me for a good price. It's just kind of a dead end with all the privacy laws blocking everything.
mekender  [Member]
2/13/2009 2:51:02 AM
Originally Posted By MrShanks2U:
Originally Posted By beeragent74:
You are right, I do not know who owns the car. But that is why I stated that I want to find out. But since there is no other way for me to get his name and contact info, then I am left to consider claiming "abandoned property

If your primary intent is to find the owner I believe there are websites that you can subscribe to that will provide owner information from license plates. This might be the easiest and most inexpensive route. If you can get a hold of the owner I'm sure he would sell you the vehicle cheap as he has already written it off as a loss.


Yea, I tried looking around online at some of those sites. They list the info that they provide with one of their checks. But none of them list owner name and contact info. They all just list the number of previous owners. I'm sure if I could just get a hold of him then he probably would sell it to me for a good price. It's just kind of a dead end with all the privacy laws blocking everything.


you know anyone that works for a towing company? they have access to much more expansive information than the general public.
shadow  [Member]
2/13/2009 6:15:21 AM
Maybe he owed money on the truck and simply left that too. Or he never legally owned the vehicle, never know. Maybe he is doing time...seriously. If you owned the property, it would be different, what your are doing isnt the intent of the law you are thinking of using. Sorry, but it is an end run around paying for something you want.

And your cop buddy can run the plate for you.
u352  [Moderator]
2/13/2009 9:37:40 AM
Seems to me MrShanks2U has no problem paying for it. He just doesn't like seeing it abandoned.

Anywho he came here to ask a question of his fellow Carolina members. If anyone can help answer the question then please post. if you would like to discuss the merit of his question, you may keep that to yourself.
shadow  [Member]
2/13/2009 9:56:15 AM
His cop buddy can run the plate for him.



That is being helpful.
A car was abandoned on my parents road once,(Mom called me of course). Nice car at the time. Called a friend who was working, ran the plate and found out it was stolen.
Not hard to do really. So if I wanted to find the owner to buy it, thats all you have to do.
MrShanks2U  [Team Member]
2/13/2009 11:42:39 AM
Originally Posted By u352:
Seems to me MrShanks2U has no problem paying for it. He just doesn't like seeing it abandoned.

Anywho he came here to ask a question of his fellow Carolina members. If anyone can help answer the question then please post. if you would like to discuss the merit of his question, you may keep that to yourself.


Thank you Sir!

Originally Posted By shadow:
His cop buddy can run the plate for him.



That is being helpful.
A car was abandoned on my parents road once,(Mom called me of course). Nice car at the time. Called a friend who was working, ran the plate and found out it was stolen.
Not hard to do really. So if I wanted to find the owner to buy it, thats all you have to do.


Yea, I was going to call him the other day, but I realized that I haven't talked to him in a while. Next time I see him I will ask him about it though.
JKVR6M69  [Member]
2/26/2009 5:19:51 PM
Ok... heres my take on it. There are laws in NC to govern claiming an abandoned vehicle. If you being the owner of the vehicle leave it somewhere you shouldn't ... and are too lazy to do anything about it past the point all the plates etc. expire (or you were jacked up and let them expire and were consequently driving with expired items). Then what is so wrong about someone going about it the proper way, using in place laws, to claim something that has been abandoned? All he is doing is taking something more than likely "thrown away". Obviously if stolen... when the paperwork is submitted and ran... the DMV will immediately notice its stolen and BAM can take it from there. This is the way things are in this state, if you don't like it then don't do it. But don't get all high and mighty when you leave your vehicle on the side of 540 for 60-90 days (it has to be there somewhere in that range before someone can claim it I believe but don't quote me on it) and someone doing the proper method takes it. Good luck getting the vehicle what your doing isn't wrong at all and happens quite commonly. Several of my friends have gotten vehicles in this manner. Guy asked for help... not whether or not you approve.

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