Went to the LDS cannery in Bridgeton today.....

Very nice folks. Very helpful. I walked away with the following for $58.50.

3 x #10 cans of pinto beans.
3 x #10 cans of white rice
2 x #10 cans of white beans
1 x #10 can of black beans
1 x #10 can of sugar
1 x #10 can of freeze dried carrots
1 x #10 can of freeze dried onions

Everything but the carrots have a 30 year shelf life, the carrots are 25.

I'll be going back next monday. My outlook on preps is twofold, be prepared for whatever disaster/collapse may be coming our way, if the sky doesn't fall then it's a hedge against rising food costs.

Hmm, is there a secret handshake or anything along those lines? I know I have heard of some nonLDS folks not being able to purchase from LDS canneries

Once you crack that #10 can of anything I hope you plan on eating JUST that for as long as it takes!
the Freeze Dried stuff will begin to go bad as soon as you break the seal. So Hope you like those carrots

this goes for all freeze dry items.
it begins to degrade as soon as moisture is introduced (breaking the seal) So if you have a #10 of Mountain house Spaghetti I hope you don't mind eating the spaghetti until it is all gone!

Walked right in. I explained that I had never been there and was not a church member. Brother Livingston said no problem and showed me the ropes. They are open to the public on Mondays only and the hours are limited. I met four people affiliated with the cannery, all were truly as nice as could be.

Basically the way it works on Mondays is, you can buy their prepacked items (beans, rice, wheat, flour) or if there are items packaged the previous week by members leftover you can buy them (beans, milk, rice, sugar, wheat, apples, carrots, onions, potatos, pasta).

I hope you got plenty of lime Jello to go with all those carrots.

Dude you got some weird taste buds

Not really, its actually quite good, throw in some crushed pineapple and your in for a real treat.

For those on the KC side of the state:

Phone (816) 453-2398
Address 3601 NE Kimball Drive
Kansas City, Missouri 64161


The workers there will be glad to help if you need any assistance

A large percentage of the planet lives on beans and rice, pretty much THE staple foods of the planet. I don't think carrots, onions, and sugar are too far off the beaten path either.

As far as the carrots go, I have two sons 22 & 19, a daughter that's 14 and my wife and I, I don't think any will go to waste. Once opened they will still last longer than fresh carrots. I think we can gobble them up in time. A #10 can beats a 5 gallon pail.

Besides who doesn't like Carrot Souffle?

Carrots & lime Jello are a Mormon thing.

I guess but hey what do I know, I like grape jelly on Jack in the box tacos

Also good on sausage biscuits from your local fast food eatery.

YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

Nah Thats just Eric Being Eric

So what do you recomend folks do???


I been wanting to put away some stuff, but I been putting it off for several reasons, one of which you mentioned...

I don't want to buy a buncha crap just to buy a buncha crap... But I would like to have a pretty good food storage...

I'd like t start out with enough to feed 4 for a week or so, then maybe a month, then maybe a year.... Maynot ever make the year...

Grape Jelly?

And here I thought it was hot sauce that went well with everything. Esp MREs I mean seems every meal I ever saw, it had a baby bottle of Tabasco Sauce.

Ok, we need pics and a ATR (After Tasting Report)....

Curious how this stuff tastes and how your'll store it before opening and after...

Seriously, doesn't seem like a bad deal at all... But I'm really new to this stuff...

Ohh, are you lookin at putting away any water? That crap takes a lotta room, but its hard to cook and clean without it...

3am and their out of ranch and hot sauce, not gonna use mustard. Just about anything fried goes good with jelly or honey.

I recently moved here so what does LDS stand for and where is this place?

Latter Day Saints

Well since you axed...

Rice, Beans, and sugar, flour or Wheat.

Use Mylar Bags instead of cans you can use 5 gallon pails but put 1 or 2# bags of stuff in it instead of a #10 Can...
If you buy freeze dry then get the smaller quantities in retorts or cans if you must that way you can vary your consumption and don't have to eat ONE menu item for a week. Freeze Dry is great but in smaller quantities per package.

You can get MEATs freeze dried too. Once again smaller quantities per package.

Water Filter and a means to boil it.
Just make sure you are near a source of water and have a means to carry it!

This list goes around every now and again
#1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy..target of thieves; maintenance, etc.)

#2. Water Filters/Purifiers (Shipping delays increasing.)

#3. Portable Toilets (Increasing in price every two months.)

#4. Seasoned Firewood (About $100 per cord; wood takes 6 - 12 mos. to become dried, for home uses.)

#5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)

#6. Coleman Fuel (URGENT $2.69-$3.99/gal. Impossible to stockpile too much.)

#7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots

#8. Hand-Can openers & hand egg beaters, whisks (Life savers!)

#9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugars

#10. Rice - Beans - Wheat (White rice is now $12.95 - 50# bag. Sam's Club, stock depleted often.)

#11. Vegetable oil (for cooking) (Without it food burns/must be boiled, etc.)

#12. Charcoal & Lighter fluid (Will become scarce suddenly.)

#13. Water containers (Urgent Item to obtain. Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY)

#14. Mini Heater head (Propane) (Without this item, propane won't heat a room.)

#15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)

#16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur by September, 1999.)

#17. Michael Hyatt's Y2K Survival Guide (BEST single y2k handbook for sound advice/tips.)

#18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)

#19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula/ointments/aspirin, etc

#20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)

#21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)

#22. Vitamins (Critical, due 10 Y2K-forced daily canned food diets.)

#23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item.)

#24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products

#25. Thermal underwear (Tops and bottoms)

#26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets & Wedges (also, honing oil)

#27. Aluminum foil Reg. & Hvy. Duty (Great Cooking & Barter item)

#28. Gasoline containers (Plastic or Metal)

#29. Garbage bags (Impossible to have too many.)

#30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, paper towels

#31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake liquid every 3 to 4 months.)

#32. Garden seeds (Non-hybrid) (A MUST)

#33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)

#34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit: 1(800) 835-3278

#35. Tuna Fish (in oil)

#36. Fire extinguishers (or.. large box of Baking soda in every room...)

#37. First aid kits

#38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)

#39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies

#40. BIG DOGS (and plenty of dog food)

#41. Flour, yeast & salt

#42. Matches (3 box/$1 .44 at WalMart: "Strike Anywhere" preferred. Boxed, wooden matches will go first.)

#43. Writing paper/pads/pencils/solar calculators

#44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime)

#45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts

#46. Flashlights/LIGIITSTICKS & torches, "No.76 Dietz" Lanterns

#47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (Jot down ideas, feelings, experiences: Historic times!)

#48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)

#49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers,etc

#50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)

#51. Fishing supplies/tools

#52. Mosquito coils/repellent sprays/creams

#53. Duct tape

#54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes

#55. Candles

#56. Laundry detergent (Liquid)

#57. Backpacks & Duffle bags

#58. Garden tools & supplies

#59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies

#60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.

#61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)

#62. Canning supplies (Jars/lids/wax)

#63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel

#64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc.

#65. Sleeping bags & blankets/pillows/mats

#66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)

#67. Board Games Cards, Dice

#68. d-Con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer

#69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets

#70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks...)

#71. Baby Wipes, oils, waterless & Anti-bacterial soap (saves a lot of water)

#72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.

#73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)

#74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)

#75. Soysauce, vinegar, boullions/gravy/soup base

#76. Reading glasses

#77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)

#78. "Survival-in-a-Can"

#79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens

#80. BSA - New 1998 - Boy Scout Handbook (also, Leader's Catalog)

#81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)

#82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky

#83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts

#84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)

#85. Lumber (all types)

#86. Wagons & carts (for transport to & from open Flea markets)

#87. Cots & Inflatable mattresses (for extra guests)

#88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.

#89. Lantern Hangers

#90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws, nuts & bolts

#91. Teas

#92. Coffee

#93. Cigarettes

#94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc.)

#95. Paraffin wax

#96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.

#97. Chewing gum/candies

#98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)

#99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs

#100. Goats/chickens

Important Notes

1. Stockpiling helps, but you never no how long trouble will last, so locate
near renewable food sources.

2. Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden.

3. After awhile, even gold can lose its luster. But there is no luxury in war
quite like toilet paper. Its surplus value is greater than gold’s.

4. If you had to go without one utility, lose electricity – it’s the easiest to
do without.

5. Canned foods are awesome, especially if their contents are tasty without
heating. One of the best things to stockpile is canned gravy – it makes a lot of
the dry unappetizing things you find to eat in war somewhat edible. Only needs
enough heat to “warm”, not to cook. It’s cheap too, especially if you buy it in
bulk.

6. Bring some books – escapist ones like romance or mysteries become more
valuable as the situation continues. Sure, it’s great to have a lot of survival
guides, but you’ll figure most of that out on your own anyway – trust me, you’ll
have a lot of time on your hands.

7. The feeling that you’re human can fade pretty fast. I can’t tell you how many
people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of
toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to
lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else.

8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches.

This list was originally written by James Wesley Rawles, former army intelligence officer, author, and survival expert.

Also to answer the where question:

MO - Bridgeton (St. Louis)
Phone(314) 344-0313
Address
12843 Pennridge Dr
Bridgeton, Missouri 63044

MO - Kansas City
Phone(816) 453-2398
Address
3601 NE Kimball Drive
Kansas City, Missouri 64161

Question for
#35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
Why in oil and not water ?????

Tuna in oil ––1/4 cup=110 calories
Tuna in Water––1/4 cup =50 calories

Hell, the Bridgeton location is pretty close to the base. I may have to swing by and check it out some Monday.

While I'm FAR from the best prepper in the world here is something I took note of from a few power outages. Stock pile shit that your women and children can use and eat. I would imagine most of us have gone for days in the woods or on a river bank without the comforts of home but the rest of the family has not. Them griping and complaining causes an already stressful situation to be even worse. I am speaking mostly short term, in a real SHTF they will have to suck it up and go on with life.

My son likes them nasty ass viana sausages. Guess what I got several cans of? I also have a couple bags of hard candy tucked back and some flavored drink mixes. Just simple shit to keep them out of my hair while taking care of more important business like cutting the trees
off the roof of the house.

Store what you currently eat, a bunch of stuff you don't prepare or eat on a regular basis won't do you any good in a short term situation. You could easily get a weeks worth just by watching sales and stocking up on your regular staples.
I would start the process by recording everything that your family consumes for a week, it will give you a realistic measure for the ammount of food you will need to get by for a week, or two.

If you are the podcast listening type check out "The Survival Podcast" tons of great information there, and not a lot of tinfoil

NPT

This. No disrespect to those who prep, but last year we did a weekend deal where we prepared and ate what we stocked. Took another week of water and fiber to get regular. Just an FYI...but everyday things like hungryman soup and Chef Boyardee can last quite a while, and is more familiar to the family than MRE's (not to mention cost less). I teach CERT, and I plan for less than 6 months. Not slamming those who plan for more, its a personal preference. Depending on the length of time, your preps should reflect the duration and amenities available. Don't count out granola bars when you are buying MainStay bars...A seasoned prepper can do a lot of good at Aldies/Walmart on coupon day.

Perhaps they should reintroduce the laxative chiclets.

Or just eat the beans.....

Something that I have recently thought would be important to add to food stockpile is seasoning and sauces. I know preping isn't about luxury, but nothing boosts morale during the end of the world like the familiar taste of General Tso's tuna and carrots.

Here is what the cans look like.

Backs of the prepackaged cans.




Basically the beans, rice, and sugar are just as they would be out of a bag, just sealed for long term storage, so there is no need to test them. The dehydrated carrots and onions on the other hand will opened soon for taste testing. I love carrots and use onions quite a bit, so we will see how they work out.

I have a pantry full of food that we eat on a normal basis. My goal is to add some long term storage food that is edible and affordable at the same time. I will be adding flour and nonfat milk with lots more rice and beans from the LDS cannery. I've been stockpiling canned roast beef, chicken and tuna for a while. I'll be adding canned hams. A couple of the prepper meals I have planned are:

Ham and white beans.
Beef and rice using flour to make gravy.
Chicken and rice.
Or any mixture of the above. Add in some dehydrated veggies and a glass of milk and you get the calories that you would need. Not gourmet but I grew up eating depression food so it doesn't sound too bad to me anyways.

I'm just getting started on my long term food storage. My horizons will expand in the future and I'll add more items.

2 55 gallon drums will be in my garage shortly for h2o purposes. A Katadyn Micro filter is also on the short list. Long term water filtration is also a goal of mine as we have a creek that runs 365 a year about 200 yds from my house..

As far as water goes, part of my plan is to get a tub liner and a decent filter or else I can set up a 'still' to purify water.

I used to live on a 15 acre lake in mississippi so my water plan was easy, i kept lotsa bleach on hand. Now that i live in a neighborhood in stl, my water plan has gotten murky. I've got several gallon containers but a regular supply from the drainage creek behind my house would be great. If people upstream are letting body wastes run off into it, is there any way the water can be purified for safe consumption? At what point would typhus enter the picture?

Hell, half the world was explored and settled in the quest for spices.

This is what they use in 3rd World countries. I have one, and it works amazingly well.

http://www.jamesfilter.com/british_berkefeld.htm

I plan to add one of these to my well in the next year. It mounts in tandem with your regular electric well. Also pulls from 350'.


www.simplepump.com

Found a local pump service that sells them & will come out and install it for 10% off what the website sells it for.
Have some friends in the area that are saving up for one as well.

Have a health food store in Ava & Springfield that sells bulk beens, rice, wheat, TVP, etc.
Nice part is you can buy a small bag (scoop it yourself) and try it before you buy in bulk.
http://mamajeansmarket.com/MaMa_Jeans/Welcome.html

That looks very promising. Storing a few ceramic filters is fine with me.

Care to share the company info?

MaMA JEans is a cool store, Have you been next door to Dynamic Earth?

ETA: Info on the local company that installs them....

Only the weird ones. Fruit is okay, (and you can never go wrong with whip cream on top) but don't go screwing up good jello with carrots, grated cheese, or any of the other odd stuff people think of.

I've only been the Ava store.

The well company is:

Mike Woolsey
Drilling & Pump Service
2431 Date Drive
Summersville, MO 65571
417-264-2944
417-932-4036

Also have a location in Thayer.

They were at the Garden Show in West Plains a week or 3 ago. Said that you should get a quote from the website with all your well information (pump/water depth etc), then give them a call.

Thanks for the info!!! Were you at the show too? If so you prpbably saw me... I had the big front landscape display and one farther back in the show too, Where are you located at? Post a review when you get you pump installed please!!!

I can't believe nobody has (yet) asked if there were any hot chicks there.

My best friend's wife helped organize the show. I just dropped in to see what was there.
Did you have the concrete block display?

Probably going to get that pump by July or August. I'm heading back to Iraq, mid to end of April, to contract again.
Not having much luck finding work around here. Interviewed at manufacturer in WP (they've been in the news lately) and thought the interview went well but didn't get the job.

Figure I'll work in Iraq till I can score a Alaska oil gig.

By the way, I live out in Theodosia. You're welcome to come once this gets installed.

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