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12/5/2011 6:55:38 AM
I live in the liberal heaven of Minnesota and i am 20. Is it possible for me to purchase a stripped lower receiver here?
12/4/2011 11:08:01 PM
You have to be 21 to buy a stripped lower. The new 4473 delineates between a stripped lower and one built as a rifle. Since a stripped lower can be made into a pistol, you have to be 21 to buy one.
12/4/2011 11:12:18 PM
So is it impossible to get a lower by some sort of loop hole or by pass?
12/4/2011 11:14:17 PM
not a loop hole, or a striped lower but if you buy a complete lower with a stock attached it will be sold as a long rifle
I think thats about the best you can do
I think thats about the best you can do
12/4/2011 11:17:49 PM
so were can i get the best deal on one?
12/5/2011 1:28:57 AM
Originally Posted By Pothole:
not a loop hole, or a striped lower but if you buy a complete lower with a stock attached it will be sold as a long rifle
I think thats about the best you can do
not a loop hole, or a striped lower but if you buy a complete lower with a stock attached it will be sold as a long rifle
I think thats about the best you can do
False, if you want anything that has to to through an FFL (ie. ordering a lower online, even a complete lower), you have to be 21. I made that same mistake, I just had the guy keep it in his safe for a couple months until my 21st.
OP, you could pick up a lower through a face-to-face sale with someone in your state, as the legal age for that is 18. A gun show is one possible idea. Another option is having a older family member pick up the lower from the FFL and them gifting it to you. Could possibly be viewed as a straw purchase though, not sure.
I'm no lawyer, but I don't THINK that would vary state to state.
12/5/2011 5:14:58 AM
You need a pistol permit to buy a lower here, good for 1 year.
12/5/2011 10:16:06 AM
need to be 21 to get the lower.
but if you get your parents to buy it for you, they can legaly gift it to you if you are over 18. it would not be a straw buy.
but if you get your parents to buy it for you, they can legaly gift it to you if you are over 18. it would not be a straw buy.
12/5/2011 10:30:14 AM
Minnesota has to be one of the worst states. How do i get my pistol permit and what does it cost?
12/5/2011 10:37:32 AM
Originally Posted By Beretta_92B:
Minnesota has to be one of the worst states. How do i get my pistol permit and what does it cost?
Minnesota has to be one of the worst states. How do i get my pistol permit and what does it cost?
free at your local cop shop, takes about 7 days, single page form
12/5/2011 10:38:12 AM
Originally Posted By Beretta_92B:
Minnesota has to be one of the worst states. How do i get my pistol permit and what does it cost?
Minnesota has to be one of the worst states. How do i get my pistol permit and what does it cost?
need to be 21, free, and from your local PD.
12/6/2011 1:37:31 PM
Originally Posted By J75player:
need to be 21, free, and from your local PD.
Originally Posted By Beretta_92B:
Minnesota has to be one of the worst states. How do i get my pistol permit and what does it cost?
Minnesota has to be one of the worst states. How do i get my pistol permit and what does it cost?
need to be 21, free, and from your local PD.
You don't have to be 21 to get a pistol permit. I filled out the form on my 18th b-day and got it a week later.
12/6/2011 2:25:41 PM
okay i just went to the ramsey county sheriff and the would let me fill out an application. What the Helll!!!!!! i will be 21 in april but i want to get a lower.
12/6/2011 10:34:43 PM
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
You have to be 21 to buy a stripped lower. The new 4473 delineates between a stripped lower and one built as a rifle. Since a stripped lower can be made into a pistol, you have to be 21 to buy one.
You have to be 21 to buy a stripped lower. The new 4473 delineates between a stripped lower and one built as a rifle. Since a stripped lower can be made into a pistol, you have to be 21 to buy one.
By federal law, only long guns can be transfered by a dealer to those 18-20 years of age. A receiver is not a long gun, thus, it cannot be transfered by a dealer to someone less than 21 years of age. Whether a receiver can be assembled into a hand gun is of no consequence for the situation of transferring a receiver by a dealer to those aged 18-20.
12/6/2011 10:38:33 PM
Originally Posted By Pothole:
not a loop hole, or a striped lower but if you buy a complete lower with a stock attached it will be sold as a long rifle
not a loop hole, or a striped lower but if you buy a complete lower with a stock attached it will be sold as a long rifle
A complete lower with a stock attached is not by definition under federal law a long gun. A receiver (which has a definition under federal law) remains a receiver until it is assembled into the configuration that qualifies it as either a long gun or as a hand gun. To qualify as a long gun or as a hand gun, the firearm must be capable of firing a projectile.
12/7/2011 12:26:05 AM
Originally Posted By Beretta_92B:
Minnesota has to be one of the worst states.
Minnesota has to be one of the worst states.
Try living in NY.
12/7/2011 4:15:47 AM
Originally Posted By Beretta_92B:
Minnesota has to be one of the worst states. How do i get my pistol permit and what does it cost?
Minnesota has to be one of the worst states. How do i get my pistol permit and what does it cost?
Talk to our friends in California.
12/7/2011 9:08:33 AM
Since I am (once again) looking at the possibility of relocating to the Twin Cities, I decided to look up the Brady Campaign rankings. I've always figured that they will "fail-fail", so if they say a state is terrible, it will be awesome.
My, was I shocked to discover that the only state not to vote for Reagan is considered more gun friendly than Alabama and North Carolina, the latter of which I have lived in and seemed like the Wild West to me.
Minnesota may have its problems, and the purchase permit system may be a bit of a PITA, but it is NOWHERE NEAR "the worst". In fact, it ain't half bad.
When it is considered the lowest-ranked of the one-star states by the moonbats at Brady, believe me, it's not bad.
New York and New Jersey, where I live and work respectively, are ranked in the top five. Fucking hooray.
My, was I shocked to discover that the only state not to vote for Reagan is considered more gun friendly than Alabama and North Carolina, the latter of which I have lived in and seemed like the Wild West to me.
Minnesota may have its problems, and the purchase permit system may be a bit of a PITA, but it is NOWHERE NEAR "the worst". In fact, it ain't half bad.
When it is considered the lowest-ranked of the one-star states by the moonbats at Brady, believe me, it's not bad.
New York and New Jersey, where I live and work respectively, are ranked in the top five. Fucking hooray.
12/7/2011 9:30:47 AM
Zaphod,
The CCW Permit acts as a 5-year valid permit to purchase as well, so you don't have to go through that hassle if you get your CCW and keep it up to date.
We also cannot own Full Auto toys unless they are C&R Full-Auto NFA weapons.
We also cannot own sound suppressors - at all.
Otherwise, you're right, Minnesota isn't so bad. It's the local (Metro & Duluth) politics, the insane taxes on businesses, and bureaucratic nightmares one faces when trying to DO something with their lives...
The CCW Permit acts as a 5-year valid permit to purchase as well, so you don't have to go through that hassle if you get your CCW and keep it up to date.
We also cannot own Full Auto toys unless they are C&R Full-Auto NFA weapons.
We also cannot own sound suppressors - at all.
Otherwise, you're right, Minnesota isn't so bad. It's the local (Metro & Duluth) politics, the insane taxes on businesses, and bureaucratic nightmares one faces when trying to DO something with their lives...
12/7/2011 1:44:58 PM
I have to admit that the suppressor ban is a bit of a bummer as I wanted to get an SBR with a can. That said, with the seeming increase of the popularity of suppressors for "non-tactical" use, we may have hope there. SBRs will be a dream come true, though...
As for FA, while I agree the ban is BS, the chances of me getting one even if it were legal would be nil due to cost of the weapon and the cost to feed it. I'll just pull the trigger faster.
As for FA, while I agree the ban is BS, the chances of me getting one even if it were legal would be nil due to cost of the weapon and the cost to feed it. I'll just pull the trigger faster.
12/7/2011 1:59:44 PM
NO Short barreled shotguns in MN either...
i HATE that
i HATE that
12/7/2011 2:17:08 PM
Zaphod, when are you gonna just fucking move here, dude, and quit posting about it!?!?!
12/7/2011 4:19:47 PM
Originally Posted By mcnielsen:
Zaphod, when are you gonna just fucking move here, dude, and quit posting about it!?!?!
Zaphod, when are you gonna just fucking move here, dude, and quit posting about it!?!?!
^ This.
12/7/2011 10:58:30 PM
Originally Posted By sjuhockey10:
^ This.
Originally Posted By mcnielsen:
Zaphod, when are you gonna just fucking move here, dude, and quit posting about it!?!?!
Zaphod, when are you gonna just fucking move here, dude, and quit posting about it!?!?!
^ This.
As soon as I get an offer I can't refuse!
