Silver bear .223 Anyone here have any experience with it?
I did a search here and couldn't find any history of a post about this ammo.
I'm not a bit fan of Russian ammo. Wolf tends to be too dirty shooting a cloud of soot with each shot. The Silver Bear stuff is supposed to be better and I'm just wondering if anyone here has played with this stuff enough to have a solid opinion of it. I'm not only concerned about the soot but also what coating, if any, is on the casing. It's supposed to be nickle plated from what I understand.
You are looking for this thread here
Have you used the new
wolf ammo? The new wolf ammo is marketed as "WPA" (wolf performance ammo) and is manufactured by Barnaul (no longer Tula).
SilverBear and BrownBear ammo is also manufactured by Barnaul.
The new WPA, SilverBear, and BrownBear are definitely good shooting ammo. Nothing can be said of it's accuracy (~4moa), but if all you want is to pull the trigger cheaply, it doesn't get much cheaper for commercial ammo. Currently WPA is ~$205 shipped.
Of the three Russian ammo varities listed above, the SilverBear will cycle your gun better as it is noticeably loaded hotter. Besides the case being made of a different material, there really is no other difference between SB, BB, or WPA.
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Thanks for that info and the links.
I've got a good stash of Fed and LC as well as some of that excellent Guatemala ammo that was available a while back. Sometimes, however, I just want to go burn ammo and hit a gong, not worried about MOA. I saw the WPA stuff and I'm going to pick up a box of it and the silver bear just to try them out. I'd love to stock up.
Silver Bear is decent ammo. It is on the hotter side and is accurate enough. I used to use their hollow points for action rifle matches, Russian ammo is verbotten for that because of the steel content in the jackets and concerns re. peening on steel targets. The shiny zinc cases do tarnish over time- though that doesn't hurt function.
Fortunately for me here, our club doesn't care what kinds of ammo we shoot so using steel case/steel bullets isn't an issue...yet. My son, in California, can't even bring it onto the range however.
Silver Bear is actually on the weak side not hot ammo by any means. We have compared it to the military Tula and LC and it chronographed way lower. Tula military was the same as the LC ammo. Silver bear is as not very consistent. Feeds well in my full auto guns but you can hear the difference when a large burst is fired. You can hear the gun slow down and speed up. That being said, it always goes boom when I pull the trigger. Cheaper to shot then the good stuff.
I've shot a lot of SilverBear 5.45 and noticed the primers were harder than surplus ammo as I had a lot of non-fires (would fire with 2nd hit of firing pin). Not sure how that translates to 5.56 tho
FWIW the install of a heavy duty Wolff hammer spring makes everything go BANG.
Silver Bear .223...I shot a lot of it in my Armalite a few years ago...worked fine, but lots of shavings from the metal coating on the cartridges left in the chamber and mag well...bizarre.. Haven't seen it since.
I have been having good luck with this stuff. Make sure you are shooting it out of a 5.56 chamber and not .223. I think the price is pretty reasonable. I don't know how much cheaper the steel case ammo is?