CT preban ruling needed on this rifle.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=268100279

Found this listed on gun broker over the border. Lister doesn't list the rifle as a preban, but has all the preban features. He does list another rifle as preban.

I was looking up sgw/oa. SGW was making ARs late 70s early 80s then switched to Olympia arms. I found two different opinions on this lower. Some say it is post ban because it says plinker and no logo on mag well.

Since I'm looking for a prevan, I'm trying gain info to make an informer purchase.

Later
James

Whether or not it is preban (which it is NOT), the "plinker" model is cast and not forged.

I would pass on that lower whether pre or postban...



ETA:




http://www.olyarms.com/index.php?Itemid=26&id=13&option=com_content&task=view

Stay away from that.

That rifle, or at least the lower, was made in 2003.

http://www.olyarms.com/index.php?Itemid=26&id=13&option=com_content&task=view


I sent the seller a message.

Thanks for the input. That auction didn't make sense to me because of a post ban receiver with banned options on the upper located in mass.

Later
James

Avoid like the plague.


When it comes to Olys, stick with "Stop Sign" logos. Yes, some Lion-logos were preban, but the Stop Sign is usually a dead giveaway as I believe they stopped making them in mid-1994.

That lower fooled at least one CT dealer I know. I wouldn't be surprised if a MA dealer bought it thinking it was preban and now has to dump it because it's not.

I wouldn't have bought it.

There are a few sellers with only a few feedbacks listing preban receivers and rifles for prices too good to be true. This is one purchase I'm not going to impulse buy.

I'm still holding out hope to find a decent priced preban rifle or lower receiver in our state first. BMG had a few decently priced rifles, but their lowers were way to expensive. Once I get my tax return, perhaps I'd buy from them.

IF INTERESTED I HAVE A COMPLETE EA PREBAN IN GREAT SHAPE M4 STYLE COLLAPSEABLE METAL BUT STOCK .I HAVE TO MANY ARS LOOKING TO LIGHTEN THE LOAD

PM sent

Too slow by over an hour

Stops signs are the way to go, i had a few stop sign lowers,

Both were fine and had no issues with fit or finish, mated up to my lmt uppers with no issues.

Wish i kept them actually, but needed a house more.

Damnit. Always a day late and dollar short.

How are FAls treated in CT? Riverview has one forsale. Are they treated like ARs as long as the receiver isn't stamped by specific manufacturer ban, they are ok? Only ask because I've always like FALS.

thanks for the help.

James, hit him up - I prefaced my IM with "if inmyshadow doesn't want it..."

get back in line

I did email him and got a reply.

I had to pass on his rifle. Way out of my price range.

FALs are fine. The ones mentioned in the AWB list are specific full military models that you won't have to worry. The receivers we use are, of course, neutered. The FAL issues are more with the 922R regs where you need a specific number of US made parts on the rifle to keep it "legal". Guys like to retro wood stocks and different component on to the rifle after they buy it and can run afoul of those regs. If Riverview has one (and I think I saw it the other day) it's fine, of course. It's probably one of the newer CIA models with the unibrow receiver. I had one for years and loved it. If I'm not mistaken it does require 'inch' mags. I never had luck using 'metric' mags in an 'inch' lower. After about two uses, they fall too low to allow a round to be picked up. The inch mags have a solid tongue projecting from the front of the mag that fits into the elipse cut into the magwell. Anyway they are fine here.

Rome

Alright, I finally bought a preban.

Just for the record, I don't listen too well. I bought a Olympic Arms CAR15 made in Aug 94 according to Olympic's website. Basically I stayed away from an serial numbers starting with BL. Plus I had the history on this guy since I bought local. The rifle went through JoJos a few years ago.

The first thing I did, I broke it. I was adding a Magpul enhanced trigger guard. Instead of pressing out the roll pin, the ear came off. So I had to buy the butt ugly Stark Grip. I'll have the ear fixed when it comes time for a rebuild.

Now my question. Does preban rifles also need the flash hider pinned or welded? I have a used RRA A3 upper with a 14.5in CMMG barrel with an unpinned YHM phantom flash hider coming. I asked because next year I plan to suppress this rifle. If I need the flash hider pinned, then I want to do it once. If I don't need to be pinned, then I might get a brake long enough to make the over length legal until this summer for the SBR tax stamp.

So far, I've added the stark grip, badger tactical latch, magpul rail section to my bushmaster's forearms, and colt's rogers super stoc.

With a 14.5 " barrel the CT ban is not the problem when it comes to pinning a muzzle device. You need to pin somehting that makes the total barrel length 16" or you will have an illegal SBR per federal regs.

Didn't read your post well. You do not need to pin the hider because you have a pre-ban lower. You do need to pin something that makes the barrel 16" until you SBR it. Adding a muzzle device to make it 16" is worthless unless it is pinned or welded. If you have a 14.5" barrel with a 2" brake that is not pinned, you need the tax stamp.

personally, i would get 2 barrels.

a 16 no pin, ready to add a can

and a 10.5 or 11.5 when the stamp comes.

cans and pinned mounts dont work too well, just ask 98cobras buddy with a pinned surefire brake on his scar.

my surefire will not mount no matter what, even a little grinding and it still wont fit over the pinned area.

the other issue is pinning a barrel will kil the threads

You fired mine with the Stark Grip and loved it if I recall. Well, you loved the way it shot I guess.

Since I bought a whole rifle, I'll run what I got. Once I get the new complete upper, I'll apply for SBR. Since the whole idea behind building this rifle was so I could suppress it next year.

If I'm going to SBR a short barrel like 10.5ins, I'm going to build a 9mm AR.

Thanks for the advice.

there is nothing thats says you cant have a 9mm upper a 22upper and a 556 upper for the same sbr'd lower

also, if 9mm is what you want, get a 5.5 upper not a 10.5 upper. it will help keeps the heavier bullets subsonic.

being subsonic makes a huge difference when it comes to cans.

Whats wrong with the "BL" prefix lowers if they are in the right date range?

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