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whats the deal with Norfolk Southern and peak traffic times in Norfolk?
2/8/2012 9:19:43 PM
Any one know why NS almost always run a 3am whistle blairing train , 12 noon train and a 5:15 pm or so train thru Norfolk during peak traffic ? surley this is on purpose to punish the city , anyone know the reason they do this?
2/9/2012 8:26:42 AM
Generally two types of trains out of Norfolk: (1) empty coal hoppers going west for refill at the mines in WV; (2) merchandise/container trains headed west. The railroad schedules departures to ensure that westbound and eastbound trains meet at appropriate points on the system for proper traffic control. Not all areas have double track, and eastbound and westbound trains can't pass in single-track territory.
As far as "whistle-blaring" trains are concerned, federal rules mandate use of train whistles at railroad/highway grade crossings.
As far as "whistle-blaring" trains are concerned, federal rules mandate use of train whistles at railroad/highway grade crossings.
2/9/2012 9:25:45 AM
I don't know why they schedule things like the Berkley bridge opening at 9:00 a.m.
2/9/2012 2:25:57 PM
Originally Posted By VBC:
I don't know why they schedule things like the Berkley bridge opening at 9:00 a.m.
I don't know why they schedule things like the Berkley bridge opening at 9:00 a.m.
this is nicer than it used to be and a major concession by maritime shipping groups. In the good old days (a few years ago) the bridge would open much more frequently- multiple times during rush hour.
with it opening at 9 (and I come by that way every day about that time)- it is predictable. Plan accordingly. I love that it now opens at 9. I know in advance. It used to open haphazardly through out the day and during rush hour. It used to be much worse.
If you spend time on the water in that area, you will begin to appreciate how much commerce goes through right there. Inconveniencing a few motorists ( and a lot less than it used to be) is worth the millions of dollars of commerce that is done.
2/9/2012 4:06:13 PM
Originally Posted By conductor:
Generally two types of trains out of Norfolk: (1) empty coal hoppers going west for refill at the mines in WV; (2) merchandise/container trains headed west. The railroad schedules departures to ensure that westbound and eastbound trains meet at appropriate points on the system for proper traffic control. Not all areas have double track, and eastbound and westbound trains can't pass in single-track territory.
As far as "whistle-blaring" trains are concerned, federal rules mandate use of train whistles at railroad/highway grade crossings.
Generally two types of trains out of Norfolk: (1) empty coal hoppers going west for refill at the mines in WV; (2) merchandise/container trains headed west. The railroad schedules departures to ensure that westbound and eastbound trains meet at appropriate points on the system for proper traffic control. Not all areas have double track, and eastbound and westbound trains can't pass in single-track territory.
As far as "whistle-blaring" trains are concerned, federal rules mandate use of train whistles at railroad/highway grade crossings.
I believe the law is every crossing gets 3 long blows, a short blow, and the last blow of the horn is held until the locomotive crosses the highway. Doesn't matter if it's 3am, or 12 noon, that's the RR laws.
2/9/2012 8:30:45 PM
Originally Posted By jnk556:
I believe the law is every crossing gets 3 long blows, a short blow, and the last blow of the horn is held until the locomotive crosses the highway. Doesn't matter if it's 3am, or 12 noon, that's the RR laws.
Originally Posted By conductor:
Generally two types of trains out of Norfolk: (1) empty coal hoppers going west for refill at the mines in WV; (2) merchandise/container trains headed west. The railroad schedules departures to ensure that westbound and eastbound trains meet at appropriate points on the system for proper traffic control. Not all areas have double track, and eastbound and westbound trains can't pass in single-track territory.
As far as "whistle-blaring" trains are concerned, federal rules mandate use of train whistles at railroad/highway grade crossings.
Generally two types of trains out of Norfolk: (1) empty coal hoppers going west for refill at the mines in WV; (2) merchandise/container trains headed west. The railroad schedules departures to ensure that westbound and eastbound trains meet at appropriate points on the system for proper traffic control. Not all areas have double track, and eastbound and westbound trains can't pass in single-track territory.
As far as "whistle-blaring" trains are concerned, federal rules mandate use of train whistles at railroad/highway grade crossings.
I believe the law is every crossing gets 3 long blows, a short blow, and the last blow of the horn is held until the locomotive crosses the highway. Doesn't matter if it's 3am, or 12 noon, that's the RR laws.
May be the law, but when it passes through JMU's campus this is not the case. Maybe to save the hearing of the pedestrians, bit it's usually just a few long blows and maybe a few short.
2/9/2012 8:34:18 PM
Originally Posted By BiggiBen:
this is nicer than it used to be and a major concession by maritime shipping groups. In the good old days (a few years ago) the bridge would open much more frequently- multiple times during rush hour.
with it opening at 9 (and I come by that way every day about that time)- it is predictable. Plan accordingly. I love that it now opens at 9. I know in advance. It used to open haphazardly through out the day and during rush hour. It used to be much worse.
If you spend time on the water in that area, you will begin to appreciate how much commerce goes through right there. Inconveniencing a few motorists ( and a lot less than it used to be) is worth the millions of dollars of commerce that is done.
Originally Posted By VBC:
I don't know why they schedule things like the Berkley bridge opening at 9:00 a.m.
I don't know why they schedule things like the Berkley bridge opening at 9:00 a.m.
this is nicer than it used to be and a major concession by maritime shipping groups. In the good old days (a few years ago) the bridge would open much more frequently- multiple times during rush hour.
with it opening at 9 (and I come by that way every day about that time)- it is predictable. Plan accordingly. I love that it now opens at 9. I know in advance. It used to open haphazardly through out the day and during rush hour. It used to be much worse.
If you spend time on the water in that area, you will begin to appreciate how much commerce goes through right there. Inconveniencing a few motorists ( and a lot less than it used to be) is worth the millions of dollars of commerce that is done.
Have you seen the mountain of empty containers building up at NIT?
Apparently, it's cheaper just to send new ones from China than to ship back the empties.
2/9/2012 8:43:29 PM
Originally Posted By jnk556:
I believe the law is every crossing gets 3 long blows, a short blow, and the last blow of the horn is held until the locomotive crosses the highway. Doesn't matter if it's 3am, or 12 noon, that's the RR laws.
Originally Posted By conductor:
Generally two types of trains out of Norfolk: (1) empty coal hoppers going west for refill at the mines in WV; (2) merchandise/container trains headed west. The railroad schedules departures to ensure that westbound and eastbound trains meet at appropriate points on the system for proper traffic control. Not all areas have double track, and eastbound and westbound trains can't pass in single-track territory.
As far as "whistle-blaring" trains are concerned, federal rules mandate use of train whistles at railroad/highway grade crossings.
Generally two types of trains out of Norfolk: (1) empty coal hoppers going west for refill at the mines in WV; (2) merchandise/container trains headed west. The railroad schedules departures to ensure that westbound and eastbound trains meet at appropriate points on the system for proper traffic control. Not all areas have double track, and eastbound and westbound trains can't pass in single-track territory.
As far as "whistle-blaring" trains are concerned, federal rules mandate use of train whistles at railroad/highway grade crossings.
I believe the law is every crossing gets 3 long blows, a short blow, and the last blow of the horn is held until the locomotive crosses the highway. Doesn't matter if it's 3am, or 12 noon, that's the RR laws.
You're close! It's two long, one short, and a long. With the last blow held until the leading unit enters the crossing.
2/9/2012 11:13:47 PM
Originally Posted By conductor:
You're close! It's two long, one short, and a long. With the last blow held until the leading unit enters the crossing.
Originally Posted By jnk556:
I believe the law is every crossing gets 3 long blows, a short blow, and the last blow of the horn is held until the locomotive crosses the highway. Doesn't matter if it's 3am, or 12 noon, that's the RR laws.
Originally Posted By conductor:
Generally two types of trains out of Norfolk: (1) empty coal hoppers going west for refill at the mines in WV; (2) merchandise/container trains headed west. The railroad schedules departures to ensure that westbound and eastbound trains meet at appropriate points on the system for proper traffic control. Not all areas have double track, and eastbound and westbound trains can't pass in single-track territory.
As far as "whistle-blaring" trains are concerned, federal rules mandate use of train whistles at railroad/highway grade crossings.
Generally two types of trains out of Norfolk: (1) empty coal hoppers going west for refill at the mines in WV; (2) merchandise/container trains headed west. The railroad schedules departures to ensure that westbound and eastbound trains meet at appropriate points on the system for proper traffic control. Not all areas have double track, and eastbound and westbound trains can't pass in single-track territory.
As far as "whistle-blaring" trains are concerned, federal rules mandate use of train whistles at railroad/highway grade crossings.
I believe the law is every crossing gets 3 long blows, a short blow, and the last blow of the horn is held until the locomotive crosses the highway. Doesn't matter if it's 3am, or 12 noon, that's the RR laws.
You're close! It's two long, one short, and a long. With the last blow held until the leading unit enters the crossing.
This sounds more like it.
2/10/2012 4:41:12 PM
Originally Posted By ckichinko:
This sounds more like it.
Originally Posted By conductor:
You're close! It's two long, one short, and a long. With the last blow held until the leading unit enters the crossing.
Originally Posted By jnk556:
I believe the law is every crossing gets 3 long blows, a short blow, and the last blow of the horn is held until the locomotive crosses the highway. Doesn't matter if it's 3am, or 12 noon, that's the RR laws.
Originally Posted By conductor:
Generally two types of trains out of Norfolk: (1) empty coal hoppers going west for refill at the mines in WV; (2) merchandise/container trains headed west. The railroad schedules departures to ensure that westbound and eastbound trains meet at appropriate points on the system for proper traffic control. Not all areas have double track, and eastbound and westbound trains can't pass in single-track territory.
As far as "whistle-blaring" trains are concerned, federal rules mandate use of train whistles at railroad/highway grade crossings.
Generally two types of trains out of Norfolk: (1) empty coal hoppers going west for refill at the mines in WV; (2) merchandise/container trains headed west. The railroad schedules departures to ensure that westbound and eastbound trains meet at appropriate points on the system for proper traffic control. Not all areas have double track, and eastbound and westbound trains can't pass in single-track territory.
As far as "whistle-blaring" trains are concerned, federal rules mandate use of train whistles at railroad/highway grade crossings.
I believe the law is every crossing gets 3 long blows, a short blow, and the last blow of the horn is held until the locomotive crosses the highway. Doesn't matter if it's 3am, or 12 noon, that's the RR laws.
You're close! It's two long, one short, and a long. With the last blow held until the leading unit enters the crossing.
This sounds more like it.
Meh, I'm no engineer, and the railroads around where I live left back int eh 80's, all that runs here now is the tourist train, and that damn thing is annoying enough in the summer
2/11/2012 12:30:37 AM
I live near an NS rail yard. When they're forming the trains, they slam back and forth into each other. It sounds just like a 107mm rocket, I've literally had flashbacks.
