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 So is HB139 dead in the water?
odiedodi  [Team Member]
2/1/2012 5:30:46 PM
I honestly didn't even hear about this until today, from wikipedia of all places:

http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?121+sum+HB139

Is it dead, or have I just been living under a rock?

Just to clarify for those that don't feel like clicking links, it would allow for concealed carry without a permit.
wentrogue  [Team Member]
2/3/2012 6:53:32 AM
After reading the bill, I did not gather this was allowing concealed carry without a permit.
Tipsovr  [Team Member]
2/3/2012 7:04:18 AM
Originally Posted By odiedodi:
I honestly didn't even hear about this until today, from wikipedia of all places:

http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?121+sum+HB139

Is it dead, or have I just been living under a rock?

Just to clarify for those that don't feel like clicking links, it would allow for concealed carry without a permit.



Where in this bill did you contrive that premise from? I don't see anything of the sort mentioned in the bill you referenced.

odiedodi  [Team Member]
2/3/2012 12:39:05 PM
Well it's in the summary, but in the actual bill it comes after all of the drug reform stuff:
§ 18.2-308. Personal protection; carrying concealed weapons; when lawful to carry.

A. If any person carries about his person, hidden from common observation, (i) any pistol, revolver, or other weapon designed or intended to propel a missile of any kind by action of an explosion of any combustible material; (ii) any dirk, bowie knife, switchblade knife, ballistic knife, machete, razor, slingshot, spring stick, metal knucks, or blackjack; (iii) (ii) any flailing instrument consisting of two or more rigid parts connected in such a manner as to allow them to swing freely, which may be known as a nun chahka, nun chuck, nunchaku, shuriken, or fighting chain; (iv) (iii) any disc, of whatever configuration, having at least two points or pointed blades which is designed to be thrown or propelled and which may be known as a throwing star or oriental dart; or (v) (iv) any weapon of like kind as those enumerated in this subsection, he shall be is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. A second violation of this section or a conviction under this section subsequent to any conviction under any substantially similar ordinance of any county, city, or town shall be punishable as a Class 6 felony, and a third or subsequent such violation shall be punishable as a Class 5 felony. For the purpose of this section, a weapon shall be deemed to be hidden from common observation when it is observable but is of such deceptive appearance as to disguise the weapon's true nature.


I suppose by striking out that entire statement, it would also make long guns legal for concealed carry.

ckichinko  [Team Member]
2/3/2012 5:07:40 PM
Slightly related, but what's the VA definition of a Switchblade?
odiedodi  [Team Member]
2/3/2012 11:38:52 PM

Originally Posted By ckichinko:
Slightly related, but what's the VA definition of a Switchblade?

I don't know. I buy and carry assisted openers all the time though so I don't think they count.