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Matt_B  [Team Member]
2/9/2012 10:12:31 AM
FRE. That is all.

Emanuel to push for state-wide handgun registry
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Nakanokalronin  [Member]
2/9/2012 10:29:26 AM
Once again, Chicago thinks it's the king of Illinois. Push for handgun registry in Chicago....oh wait they already have that so why not leave the rest of the state out of Chicago's affairs. Of course he wants to lay out his plan in the crime ridden South Side of Chicago to get support from people who will believe his BS.

Seems like this $#!+ never ends.
patriot73  [Team Member]
2/9/2012 11:00:20 AM
What makes me most uneasy about Rahm is I feel he is hell bent to get done what Daley never did. I think even though a super majority to pass any sort of ban is unlikely, people, especially the media seem to fawn over Rahm when he speaks like he's some sort of demigod in a way they never really did with Daley. They used to beat up on Daley pretty good in the old days, especially in the 90's. I see them mainly lie down for Rahm.

So you'll get no bitching from me this year on any sort of lobbying efforts because it is sort of an important time. Quinn doesn't have the thoracic to stand up to Rahm; if a registry get's to Quinn's desk, it will get signed.

The ISRA did a very good job recently stopping Madigan from making the FOID list public so I don't see this registry as anything more than demagoguery; especially with Pfleger in the news again becoming a co-pastor or some shit.

Nakanokalronin  [Member]
2/9/2012 11:15:28 AM
I doubt this will pass muster but the fact that the tiny little blip on the map of Illinois once again thinks it know what's best for the rest of the state, yet all they do is make things worse. Wonder if this will be the start of Rahm's career long anti-gun agenda that people thought he would never do..... He's a crook county / chicago politician....thinking he is anything but against the people is laughable.
GAS3987  [Team Member]
2/9/2012 2:57:18 PM
Not to mention his connections with Obamassiah.....


I still say force Chicago into its own state and let it self destruct. Let the rest of Illinois go back to the will of the people, not the will of Poopcago.
Photosarv  [Team Member]
2/9/2012 3:39:55 PM
Originally Posted By GAS3987:
Not to mention his connections with Obamassiah.....


I still say force Chicago into its own state and let it self destruct. Let the rest of Illinois go back to the will of the people, not the will of Poopcago.


This. Absolutely. I am tired of the Chicago Craziness screwing up the rest of the state. If this ever passes, I may have to take a cruise on my boat.....
CR1046  [Member]
2/9/2012 7:16:49 PM
Heard a bit of this on the radio this evening. $65.00 to title each gun you own, good for 5 years. According to Rahm, if you're a law-abiding citizen you have nothing to worry about. Keep your fucking hand out of my pocket and go after the real problem, the savages in your city. My head nearly exploded when I heard this. It's getting real close to the straw breaking this camel's back. I'm beginning to envy those who have escaped this State.
Tango7  [Team Member]
2/9/2012 8:17:28 PM
Just heard this on WBBM - guess whose idea it was?

Not rahmbos"s - mikey pflegher's.

"It's often said that criminals will always be able to get guns, but they can't get the guns if they're all registered"

His words, not mine.

As a practicing Catholic and Mod on this board I must reserve my truest sentiments on the continued ability of that ******* the good[/] father's continued ability to [s]breathe continue to spew lies and misinformation that renders people defenseless.

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pbrsailor  [Member]
2/9/2012 9:12:14 PM
This both angers me and makes me sick to my stomach. This really pisses me off !!!!!
P08  [Team Member]
2/9/2012 9:25:50 PM
It would be unfortunate to lose any good people in chicago, but a freak tidal wave whacking 90% of the city would do downstate a world of good. Sort of like flushing a nasty turd.
Milez  [Member]
2/9/2012 10:48:42 PM
Agreed! ^^^^

Chicago has a gang problem, not a gun problem. The Fucking Libtards will do nothing to change that fact because the the people in those communities are their voting base. It also allows them to use a "CRISIS", manufactured by their policies (Welfare Dependence), to remove more of our constitutional rights. Fast and Furious is another perfect example. I hope and pray that, come Novenber, there are enough of us to send the President packing, and give us complete control of the Congress. I know that some of the republicans are typical politicains, but at least when we make our voices heard they "rethink" their positions.

So keep the pressure on our state level congressmen. This will do nothing to stem the crime in the state, but will only serve to create new criminals out of those of us who will not, or cannot afford to, register our guns.

cheapsandwich  [Member]
2/9/2012 11:06:38 PM
Wishing you boys the best of luck. I worked in southern Illinois for 3 years , good people very similar to the folks over here.
StainlessSteel  [Member]
2/10/2012 5:59:02 AM
I don't see the problem, we all see the paradise that Chicago has become. Look at the school systems, the children never skip school, they all read two or three grade levels above the national average. There is no crime, corruption, unemployment, vacant homes or rats in Chicago. In fact I hear all rainbows start or end in Chicago. Its all a wanna-be social engineer could hope for.

What a joke! I guess being mayor wasn't as easy as being a "do nothing" congressman who forgot to pay his property taxes. I guess we have to steer/scape goat peoples attention away from the real issues. I can see his campaign slogan now "People dont cause under-performing schools, unemployment, crime, corruption and rats...GUNS do"

Doesn't he have his hands filled with a city thats been rotting away for the last couple of decades. A City where people have difficulty saving their foreclosed homes because the market says the home has Zero Value, but the cook county assessor still thinks the house is worth more then it was during the real estate boom.

He should be too busy putting out financial fires, to be worried about the rest of the state.

When I think of Rahm, I see him on top of city hall in a white toga, play a violin, smiling as the city burns...what a jerk.

It burns my hide to think that EVERY Chicago alderman has the right to carry a concealed weapon, some even have policemen as bodyguards. Why do they get the right to defend themselves from the world they created, while the other 3 million people have to hide, call 911 and wait 15 minutes.

Sorry i get excited on this topic.
GAS3987  [Team Member]
2/10/2012 8:47:28 AM
Originally Posted By StainlessSteel:
I don't see the problem, we all see the paradise that Chicago has become. Look at the school systems, the children never skip school, they all read two or three grade levels above the national average. There is no crime, corruption, unemployment, vacant homes or rats in Chicago. In fact I hear all rainbows start or end in Chicago. Its all a wanna-be social engineer could hope for.

What a joke! I guess being mayor wasn't as easy as being a "do nothing" congressman who forgot to pay his property taxes. I guess we have to steer/scape goat peoples attention away from the real issues. I can see his campaign slogan now "People dont cause under-performing schools, unemployment, crime, corruption and rats...GUNS do"

Doesn't he have his hands filled with a city thats been rotting away for the last couple of decades. A City where people have difficulty saving their foreclosed homes because the market says the home has Zero Value, but the cook county assessor still thinks the house is worth more then it was during the real estate boom.

He should be too busy putting out financial fires, to be worried about the rest of the state.

When I think of Rahm, I see him on top of city hall in a white toga, play a violin, smiling as the city burns...what a jerk.

It burns my hide to think that EVERY Chicago alderman has the right to carry a concealed weapon, some even have policemen as bodyguards. Why do they get the right to defend themselves from the world they created, while the other 3 million people have to hide, call 911 and wait 15 minutes.

Sorry i get excited on this topic.


Don't apologize! Could not have said it better myself.

rangehunter  [Team Member]
2/10/2012 10:26:34 AM
Fuck that guy
bharney  [Team Member]
2/10/2012 10:45:52 AM
Just remember, they don't need a super majority, but just a majority with Quinn as Governor, because he will sign anything stupid you put before him.

Only the law abiding have anything to fear in this state. The criminals and politicians run this place, and they don't have to follow rules.

yadayada  [Member]
2/10/2012 11:31:33 AM
What handguns?
Tango_6  [Member]
2/10/2012 12:03:21 PM
it will never happen.
EmpWolf  [Team Member]
2/10/2012 12:05:36 PM
At $65 per handgun registration and $25 every 5 years. No thanks.

Government doesn't need to know what I own.
Lazyshooter  [Member]
2/10/2012 12:46:17 PM
Typical liberal; thinks more laws and a larger rights grabbing government are the way to solve societies' woes.
Maybe he should try "registering" gang members instead, and let us know who they all are.

Hope this link works, as there is a short story from Thursday night on Chicago's Fox News channel.

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/illinois/mayor-emanuel-proposing-illinois-gun-registration-20120209

and a local CBS story:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/02/09/emanuel-calls-for-statewide-gun-registry/

They want this because federal law prohibits registration of handguns, so they want a state law to do it.

It's funny, in the CBS written story, the mayor touts being part the passage of the Brady Bill and the 1994 assault weapons ban, as his "credentials", and yet, the people cleaned out much of Congress in the next election cycle, because they think Congress did the wrong thing. And in 1995, the assault weapon ban was repealed in the U.S. House, though Sen. Dole never allowed a vote in the U.S. Senate. Congress almost never revisits any issue and revotes on it, and yet they did in this case.
war-wagon  [Member]
2/10/2012 12:56:26 PM
I'm thinking its time to start looking for another place to live. Once all the good people leave they can fence the IL state border & make this a prison state.
DocT  [Team Member]
2/10/2012 5:47:06 PM
I read an article today in the Chgo. Trib., where a Republican politician ( Phelps?) says this registration scheme is stupid and will NOT pass. The ISRA and NRA concurs.

What surprised me though is that a Republican Rep. Rosemary Mulligan of Des Plaines will support Emanuel when the bill is introduced in a few weeks. I think this Rep needs a reality check! Call or write her if she is your representative...

BTW, this article's author mentioned that this Reps' father was killed by "gun violence" in Chicago back in 1967!
P08  [Team Member]
2/10/2012 5:51:43 PM
Just think if Quinn does not go for a second term I think Rhambo will go for it. And with the votes he can buy he'd probably win.
air2ground  [Member]
2/10/2012 7:10:37 PM
The only way you can send a message to springfield is to vote out the down state democrats. when madigan sees his downstate support eroding he will see his kingdom vanishing and then put a stop to this madness. To keep a downstate democrat in office, even while they are pro-2A, indirectly supports crook county politicians. If you can get a pro-2A republican vote for him/her.
shadesofgrey  [Team Member]
2/10/2012 7:38:07 PM
Originally Posted By P08:
Just think if Quinn does not go for a second term I think Rhambo will go for it. And with the votes he can buy he'd probably win.


No he won't. In IL, Chicago mayor is highest office.
Roadhawk  [Moderator]
2/10/2012 8:13:29 PM
Did you see the news article where Quinn said a gun registration would be a huge uphill climb for lawmakers? He doesn't think the bill would pass. Then he goes on to say that he wants an assault weapon ban.

I am very tired of this nonsense. It never stops. The economy in this state sucks. Quinn is digging an even deeper hole. The latest poll showed Quinn with a 54% disapproval rating. Really? 46% of our citizens are ok with what is happening in this state?

They already said that Obama will not campaign in Illinois because he has solid support from our state. What is wrong with Illinois voters? They have to be ignorant to keep voting the same trash into office every election. How bad does it have to get for people to wake up?

I guess if you only have to win two counties to take an election here it's not that difficult to win.



Marie  [Team Member]
2/10/2012 11:11:24 PM
Originally Posted By air2ground:
The only way you can send a message to springfield is to vote out the down state democrats. when madigan sees his downstate support eroding he will see his kingdom vanishing and then put a stop to this madness. To keep a downstate democrat in office, even while they are pro-2A, indirectly supports crook county politicians. If you can get a pro-2A republican vote for him/her.


Mine are both R. My state rep is Tom Morrison (Palatine - 27th), who when I emailed him about the three recent House bills emailed back saying he's always supported our 2A rights. I think my senator, Matt Murphy (Palatine - 54th) is pro-2A, as well. I'm googling Murphy, but not finding anything.
Marie  [Team Member]
2/10/2012 11:21:29 PM
Here is the original Chicago Tribune story with 500+ comments. Most very against. Very interesting reading.
VietVet7  [Member]
2/11/2012 12:51:08 AM
This is exactly what Hitler did in 1939. Shortly after that He confiscated them. If we don't learn from past mistakes, we're destined to repeat them!
Nakanokalronin  [Member]
2/11/2012 10:57:51 AM
I guess if you only have to win two counties to take an election here it's not that difficult to win.


Exactly. I keep seeing people from other states talking about how "we" vote these idiots in but if they saw an Illinois map that sectioned off by counties and then say the 2 counties highlighted that win an election, they would realize how it's utter BS that "we" want these people in office.

Ever look at the mayors facebook page? It's nothing but negative comments and not just about this nonsense either.

Most over at Illinoiscarry.com believe all these anti-gun bills are there to distract us from getting carry concealed. It's supposed to be going for another vote this year and they think we have those votes. What better way to take the focus off that then to try and push multiple anti-gun agendas?
Tango7  [Team Member]
2/11/2012 11:37:36 AM
Originally Posted By Nakanokalronin:
Most over at Illinoiscarry.com believe all these anti-gun bills are there to distract us from getting carry concealed. It's supposed to be going for another vote this year and they think we have those votes. What better way to take the focus off that then to try and push multiple anti-gun agendas?


I wouldn't doubt it. While the Ill-annoys intelligentsia and media lackey loved to belittle the rest of the country with CCW as a bunch of hicks, and claim population density allowed CCW without massacres (I know, Miami... Dallas, Houston...) to discount IN and IA CCW, they tied themselves to WI, then the only other state with no CCW. I remember an editorial talking about how WI and IL didn't have CCW, and "We" (the editors speaking on "our" behalf) were proud of that distinction.

Since the passage of shall issue CCW in WI, and the disappointing lack of mass bloodshed, school shootings and homicidal rages that have failed to appear (in the miinds of the antis) the chance has really improved. Add in the SCOTUS decisions based in Chicago's own stubbornness and stupidity and there are folks who are worried we'll get VT/AK Constitutional carry here. While it's a long shot, the chance to enact legislation with some form of control (as opposed to ConCarry) is, IMHO, a major reason why the IL Chiefs and many other previously anti groups joined the prok RKBA Il Sheriff's Assn in supporting CCW this time.

Add in the fact that licensed/permitted CCW raises revenue, where ConCarry doesn't. MAybe if that point had been stressed more forcefully we'd have it by now.
Marie  [Team Member]
2/11/2012 12:02:50 PM
Originally Posted By Tango7:

Add in the fact that licensed/permitted CCW raises revenue, where ConCarry doesn't. MAybe if that point had been stressed more forcefully we'd have it by now.


Well, if you read the complete text of HB0148, the revenue from concealed carry would NOT go into the general fund, but would go into the fund specifically set up by that bill. So I assume it would go for things like hiring more ISP staff for background checks, computer system upgrades, stuff like that.

Maybe we should push for a certain percentage of the revenue from CCW applications to go into the IL general fund?
mr_camera_man  [Team Member]
2/11/2012 2:10:35 PM
Looks like I got out just in time. I should take a moment to remind all of you that I got my lifetime LTCH in my mailbox within 10 days of applying, and that I'll be shopping for my first suppressor after a few paychecks.
GAS3987  [Team Member]
2/11/2012 2:41:47 PM
Originally Posted By VietVet7:
This is exactly what Hitler did in 1939. Shortly after that He confiscated them. If we don't learn from past mistakes, we're destined to repeat them!


People do not realize how similarly these murderous dictators treated their victims early on is strikingly similar to what our government is doing now, particularly in ILannoys.
Tango_6  [Member]
2/11/2012 2:48:51 PM
its all smoke and mirrors. the bill wont pass, and the US government is fine. If you dont like it try to do something about but realize nothing will change.
DoverGunner  [Member]
2/11/2012 4:34:59 PM
Did I not already Register them and Pay the (Registration ) Tax when I bought them .Seems like Double Taxation to me.
I do not think it will pass Just Someone Making noise and Beating there Chest.
I can Always Move them to my Property across the River, Boating accident ,Small house Fire were all bill of sales Disappear , or a Plain ole F#$! You , and lets go to Court. I see too many Loop holes
Tango7  [Team Member]
2/11/2012 7:26:18 PM
Originally Posted By Marie:
Originally Posted By Tango7:

Add in the fact that licensed/permitted CCW raises revenue, where ConCarry doesn't. MAybe if that point had been stressed more forcefully we'd have it by now.


Well, if you read the complete text of HB0148, the revenue from concealed carry would NOT go into the general fund, but would go into the fund specifically set up by that bill. So I assume it would go for things like hiring more ISP staff for background checks, computer system upgrades, stuff like that.

Maybe we should push for a certain percentage of the revenue from CCW applications to go into the IL general fund?


I had missed that in the original bill, but I have a feeling it would work the same way that the lottery revenues do.

Original concept when the lottery was proposed - education budget is x, lottery revenues are y and are added to the budget for z.

The way it works in real Ill-annoys today - education budget is x, lottery revenues are y, so they subtract y from x to obtain z, the number of dollars in the education budget that are now "excess" and can be rerouted to pork - that way the politicos can claim that education budgets are not reduced (in terms of monies received), the lottery money goes to "the chillren" and they get slush money. Win-win.

Of course, that era may be ended. I heard Pattycakes saying that lottery revenues now paid for edjication and "capital improvement projects", so like many other items the libs are blatant enough to not care a whit about what the original intent was.

If it made the difference in passing or not passing I'd pay an extra $10 to get CCW here. Sadly, I think we could offer to pay $50 or $100 extra and the (D)'s would then cry that the supporters were purchasing the extra revenue with the blood of children killed by gunfire.
TheFlynDutchman  [Member]
2/12/2012 5:49:55 PM
Originally Posted By CR1046:
Heard a bit of this on the radio this evening. $65.00 to title each gun you own, good for 5 years. According to Rahm, if you're a law-abiding citizen you have nothing to worry about. Keep your fucking hand out of my pocket and go after the real problem, the savages in your city. My head nearly exploded when I heard this. It's getting real close to the straw breaking this camel's back. I'm beginning to envy those who have escaped this State.


Yea, no shit.....

He'd get a pretty penny out of me, plus it would be $25 per handgun to re-register every 5 years.

I don't think this is going anywhere, I think it is more of a "See? I want to enact common sense gun laws, and those evil gun lobbies won't let me" scenario than anything else.



TheFlynDutchman  [Member]
2/12/2012 5:51:18 PM
Originally Posted By Tango7:
Just heard this on WBBM - guess whose idea it was?

Not rahmbos"s - mikey pflegher's.

"It's often said that criminals will always be able to get guns, but they can't get the guns if they're all registered"

His words, not mine.

As a practicing Catholic and Mod on this board I must reserve my truest sentiments on the continued ability of that ******* the good[/] father's continued ability to [s]breathe continue to spew lies and misinformation that renders people defenseless.

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Tango,

I thought he was persona non grata in the Catholic church now, no ?

TheFlynDutchman  [Member]
2/12/2012 5:53:29 PM
Originally Posted By Milez:
Agreed! ^^^^

Chicago has a gang problem, not a gun problem. .



I posted about that in the HTF a little while back... Chicago now has the distinction of having the most amount of gang members per capita than anywhere else in the country. Way to go Chicago!
TheFlynDutchman  [Member]
2/12/2012 6:07:45 PM
Originally Posted By Roadhawk:
Did you see the news article where Quinn said a gun registration would be a huge uphill climb for lawmakers? He doesn't think the bill would pass. Then he goes on to say that he wants an assault weapon ban.

I am very tired of this nonsense. It never stops. The economy in this state sucks. Quinn is digging an even deeper hole. The latest poll showed Quinn with a 54% disapproval rating. Really? 46% of our citizens are ok with what is happening in this state?

They already said that Obama will not campaign in Illinois because he has solid support from our state. What is wrong with Illinois voters? They have to be ignorant to keep voting the same trash into office every election. How bad does it have to get for people to wake up?

I guess if you only have to win two counties to take an election here it's not that difficult to win.





Actually his approval rating was 30% & disapproval was 54%. There must be 16% undecided.

Tango7  [Team Member]
2/13/2012 12:19:40 AM
Originally Posted By TheFlynDutchman:

Tango,

I thought he was persona non grata in the Catholic church now, no ?



I guess the A.D. held short of defrocking him - or at least stripping him of his parish... it seems he was told to keep a lower profile.

I guess sending missals to anti-gun pols isn't protesting, now is it?
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