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matai  [Member]
1/3/2009 6:28:02 PM EST
Does anybody know if there is a limit of how many firearms I can buy in Washington State in a time period?

Thanks
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ViniVidivici  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 6:29:52 PM EST
No limit that I know of.

Your budget is your limit.
spankybear  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 6:30:56 PM EST
How much money do you have...


Though I believe there may be a limit on the fed level or at least get one somebody's list
BusySquirrel  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 6:31:17 PM EST
Buy more than one in the same purchase from an FFL and you might win a special commie flag, but you're not breaking the law....yet.
Athompson  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 6:33:16 PM EST
never heard of any limits....
JohnB_greenAK  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 6:33:57 PM EST
I thought there was a 5 handgun limit...not really a limit, but more than 5 and the purchase is flagged by The Fed.

I could be––and probably am––wrong. But I will browse around and try to find it...

eta: quick search of USC and the ATF PDF on various laws found no result.

-GunNutJuell-  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 6:36:24 PM EST
I can understand the "One gun a month" thing, to prevent straw purchases, which is B.S. still, but besides that how would limiting guns purchased at one time help anything?
PCR-00  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 6:39:25 PM EST
Over a certain number and the FFL has to use a special form...can't remember the name of it...
KA3B  [Life Member]
1/3/2009 6:40:16 PM EST
What's the limit on your credit cards or can you take out a second and third mortgage on your house......
spankybear  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 6:41:33 PM EST
Originally Posted By KA3B:
What's the limit on your credit cards or can you take out a second and third mortgage on your house......



He didn't say ANYTHING about ammo or lowers.... Sheesh
dkpricer  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 6:49:54 PM EST
From what I have read there is NO LIMIT on the number of guns you can purchase in the state of Washington
JoeEverett  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 6:53:53 PM EST
More than 2, FFL files multiple purchase form of some sort. When I went to renew my carry permit, the guy who was doing the finger print printed long list of guns I purchsed including the ones I consigned and made a comment regarding that. Something like "arsenal". So obviously, there is a list..

ETA: 2 or more
BusySquirrel  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 7:04:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By JoeEverett:
More than 2, FFL files multiple purchase form of some sort.


Thank you, sir


Originally Posted By BusySquirrel:
Buy more than one in the same purchase from an FFL and....


Do I get to say "I told ya so"?
MACE_Hardware  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 7:11:46 PM EST
One gun a month requirement is some common sense gun law I could support.

I just need to get my wife to buy into it....
NWRed  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 7:27:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By MACE_Hardware:
One gun a month requirement is some common sense gun law I could support.

I just need to get my wife to buy into it....


Ya mean a mandatory minimum 1 a month purchase law?

The current 4473 has spaces for 5 or 6 firearms, if purchasing more then that you need too attach a seperate sheet with the same info, make-model-caliber- serial number etc etc.

I believe it's 2 purchases from the same FFL in a 10 day period or something along those lines that triggers the multiple purchase form. I've purchased stuff that came as "lots" of 3 to 6 FFL items at a time (old shotguns, box of project pistol receivers, lowers, rifle receivers etc) and can't ever recall having to fill out a second form nor do I know of my FFL ever filling out a second form and I'm pretty sure the FFL I used in Idaho for transfers would have said something about the added BS paperwork.
JoeEverett  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 7:44:32 PM EST
I was told that the form needs to be filled out if more than 1 firearm is purchased at same time, but don't recall signing extra form. I assume FFL fills out??
Matt45  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 7:53:16 PM EST
Originally Posted By JoeEverett:
More than 2, FFL files multiple purchase form of some sort. When I went to renew my carry permit, the guy who was doing the finger print printed long list of guns I purchsed including the ones I consigned and made a comment regarding that. Something like "arsenal". So obviously, there is a list..

ETA: 2 or more


What municipality?
NWRed  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 7:55:40 PM EST
I kinda wonder if this is an old regulation that is longer used to be honest. Since no current FFL has complained about it and none of us had ever had to certify that we in fact bought multiple firearms at one time.
Brings to mind Jay Emde of Dalphon/Federal Prison fame who was selling guys one or two guns and then adding 10 to 50 extra guns to their 4473s and selling those off the books to guys who couldn't pass NICS or would pay a premium for private sale guns. The part where he was trading machine guns and suppressors for cocaine is what did him in I heard. Ah the good ol' days
CrazyWhiteGuy  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 8:04:39 PM EST
Originally Posted By NWRed:
I kinda wonder if this is an old regulation that is longer used to be honest. Since no current FFL has complained about it and none of us had ever had to certify that we in fact bought multiple firearms at one time.
Brings to mind Jay Emde of Dalphon/Federal Prison fame who was selling guys one or two guns and then adding 10 to 50 extra guns to their 4473s and selling those off the books to guys who couldn't pass NICS or would pay a premium for private sale guns. The part where he was trading machine guns and suppressors for cocaine is what did him in I heard. Ah the good ol' days


What ever happened to the American Dream?
MACE_Hardware  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 8:11:18 PM EST
I've got some Dalphon GG mag conversions that won't load all the way. I wonder if they are half full of smack....
spankybear  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 8:12:13 PM EST
Where is Phil? HE isn't around?? dose this mean I can go nuts???

Time to get a thread locked
NWRed  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 8:13:59 PM EST
Originally Posted By MACE_Hardware:
I've got some Dalphon GG mag conversions that won't load all the way. I wonder if they are half full of smack....



Nah prolly baking soda as he woulda sold or snorted the real stuff.
Icarus  [Member]
1/3/2009 8:15:32 PM EST
If you purchase two or more handguns in a 7 day period, the FFL must fill out a multiple handgun purchase form and fax it off to the feds. It is done after the transaction, and does not impede the purchase.

You can buy as many longguns or handguns as you like on a 4473. During the background check it is only mentioned whether it is a longgun, handgun, or other (frame/receiver), not how many.

If there is a limit or list you can get on, it is not a commonly known deal, that gets into the tin-foil hat area.

~Icarus

jonnyjeeps  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 8:19:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By matai:
Does anybody know if there is a limit of how many firearms I can buy in Washington State in a time period?

Thanks



Im actually curious how many firearms do you want to buy at once? 2 or 200

Phil_in_Seattle  [Moderator]
1/3/2009 8:20:08 PM EST
There is no purchase limit in WA. There is no federal purchase limit.

If an unlicensed person acquires 2 or more handguns from the same dealer within 5 consecutive business days the dealer fills out and submits form F 3310.4 Report of Multiple Sale or Other Disposition of Pistols and Revolvers.

matai  [Member]
1/3/2009 10:21:49 PM EST
I just got two handguns on order, was wondering if there'd be any problems.
BusySquirrel  [Team Member]
1/3/2009 10:24:17 PM EST
I'm buying Page Two. Can I get in trouble for that?
G-30  [Team Member]
1/4/2009 8:08:59 AM EST
Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
There is no purchase limit in WA. There is no federal purchase limit.

If an unlicensed person acquires 2 or more handguns from the same dealer within 5 consecutive business days the dealer fills out and submits form F 3310.4 Report of Multiple Sale or Other Disposition of Pistols and Revolvers.



This and a copy goes to the chief LEO for your area as well.


(F5) As a licensed dealer, must I
advise ATF if I sell more than one
handgun to an individual?
If you sell or dispose of more than
one handgun to any nonlicensee during
a period of 5 consecutive business
days, the sale must be reported
on ATF Form 3310.4, Report of Multiple
Sale or Other Disposition of Pistols
and Revolvers, not later than the
close of the business day on which
you sold or disposed of the second
handgun. The licensee must forward
a copy of the Form 3310.4 to the ATF
office specified thereon, and another
copy must be forwarded to the State
police or local law enforcement
agency where the sale occurred. A
copy of the Form 3310.4 also must be
attached to the firearms transaction
record, ATF Form 4473,

Stacey



1GUNRUNNER  [Team Member]
1/4/2009 8:48:00 AM EST
Definitely a fed.
G-30  [Team Member]
1/4/2009 1:14:14 PM EST
Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:
Definitely a fed.



How did you know

Stacey

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