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 Paul Babeu's Mexican Ex-Lover Says Sheriff's Attorney Threatened Him With Deportation
Hipster  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 5:42:08 AM
Article with 'fabulous' photos in New Times.......
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2012-02-16/news/paul-babeu-s-mexican-ex-lover-says-sheriff-s-attorney-threatened-him-with-deportation/
ObsoleteMan  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 8:23:45 AM
Hmm. Not sure what to say about that one.
Uofaspyder  [Member]
2/18/2012 11:20:39 AM
I could care less if he is gay or not. I do question the source and details. I wouldn't trust the "New Times" for being accurate or true journalism for much.
FightingHellfish  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 11:24:07 AM
Thats been the rumor.

The gay part anyway. The illegal culo is new.
WindKnot1-1  [Member]
2/18/2012 11:45:33 AM
Election time brings out the best in all of us, doesn't it?

I don't really care about his preferences as he's not my type. That's his business, not mine. All I care is whether or not the job gets done. The allegations concern me though and hopefully the truth will be established and we can make a decision based on the facts.
danelen  [Member]
2/18/2012 12:02:06 PM
I care less about his sexual orientation than I do about how he landscapes his yard but as suggested above I do also care about anyone on the left or the right abusing their position so I hope that part is just bunk. It probably is bunk because when someone on the right is accused of something they run the story without any attempt to assess the credibility of the allegation. "Catching" someone on the right being gay and the lefty media gets really excited because they assume we will all head to their house with torches and pitchforks.
threefeathers  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 1:39:22 PM
owwwwww. My butt hurts.
musicman10_1  [Member]
2/18/2012 1:50:18 PM
Press conference scheduled for this afternoon. I've been hearing things about his lifestyle choice for a while and I think that these allegations might just be the tip of the iceberg. Pinal County is not exactly a progressive / tolerant place.
Couch-Commando  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 2:05:22 PM

Originally Posted By musicman10_1:
Press conference scheduled for this afternoon. I've been hearing things about his lifestyle choice for a while and I think that these allegations might just be the tip of the iceberg. Pinal County is not exactly a progressive / tolerant place.

I heard the rumors too, and yeah, Republicans have a hard enough time in Pinal County without being gay...
rizzo1318  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 2:30:40 PM
Interesting. Saw it in the newspaper this morning.
SteelTalon  [Member]
2/18/2012 2:32:13 PM
Boy,somebody stuck his PeePee in a wall socket on this one....
3rdpig  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 2:41:56 PM
If true he's toast.

On a side note, I find it interesting that the peccadilloes of gays are ignored unless they support a conservative agenda, then the liberal media is all all about exposing them.
anm2_man  [Member]
2/18/2012 2:53:23 PM
+1 on "He's Toast"

Originally Posted By 3rdpig:
If true he's toast.

On a side note, I find it interesting that the peccadilloes of gays are ignored unless they support a conservative agenda, then the liberal media is all all about exposing them.


Friendly_Crusader  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 3:01:44 PM
Had no idea he was gay until this..

If he really had an illegal immigrant boyfriend he killed his own career, and I can believe it as this off the wall stuff always seems to happen, and most ends up being true.

SteelTalon  [Member]
2/18/2012 4:02:14 PM


Electric Six
mp_moody  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 4:36:49 PM
Any other source then the New Times?
Joe_Blacke  [Member]
2/18/2012 4:37:36 PM
Don't care if he is gay.

Do care if he is posting Anthony Weiner type pics on a gay site, and looking for casual sex. That is just bad judgement.
Mrs_Tim_McBride  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 6:20:25 PM
alphabavo  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 6:23:02 PM
Calling out the kenyan made him a Target, I'll wait for him to speak before I pass judgement. As it stands, I like the guy, gay or not.

Fuck Obama, fuck the liberals.



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1goodshot  [Member]
2/18/2012 6:25:37 PM
He is probably done as sheriff, hope they send his boyfriend home.
Uofaspyder  [Member]
2/18/2012 7:07:48 PM
Well I guess he officially came out, had a press conference today. I find it interesting how the Democrats will handle this, on one side you have an illegal Immigrant and someone gay on the other, that is their base right there.
Hipster  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 7:31:13 PM

Originally Posted By Joe_Blacke:
Don't care if he is gay.

Do care if he is posting Anthony Weiner type pics on a gay site, and looking for casual sex. That is just bad judgement.

I feel the same way. Babeu's sexual orientation isn't a big deal if he performs his duties of office professionally. If Babeu actually threatened his boyfriend with deportation, that would appear to be abuse under the color of authority. Posting nude photos of himself on a gay (or any other) site is industrial strength stupidity.

Having a long-term boyfriend who is illegal undercuts any public statements Babeu has made about getting tough on illegal immigration. If the boyfriend did work on Babeu's web site, then Babeu actively hired an illegal laborer.

Personally, I don't care for Babeu. He always struck me as a politician first; a lawman second. I didn't mind that too much as long as he performed his duties well and ran his department efficiently. The final nail in Babeu's coffin for me was when he appeared in that "complete the danged fence" TV ad with McCain.
JLH3  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 7:34:14 PM

Originally Posted By 1goodshot:
He is probably done as sheriff, hope they send his boyfriend home.


He already said he was not going to run again for sheriff to run for Congress.
victorgonzales  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 8:28:54 PM
Don't care if he is gay. The rest is probably made up bullshit. I think the guy does a good job and will support him.
JLH3  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 11:36:33 PM

Originally Posted By victorgonzales:
Don't care if he is gay. The rest is probably made up bullshit. I think the guy does a good job and will support him.


IIRC, he denied being gay when he ran for sheriff. And yes, the rumors go back that far. If he did say that, he lied, and that's gonna be a problem for POST.
Friendly_Crusader  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 11:43:19 PM
Originally Posted By JLH3:

Originally Posted By victorgonzales:
Don't care if he is gay. The rest is probably made up bullshit. I think the guy does a good job and will support him.


IIRC, he denied being gay when he ran for sheriff. And yes, the rumors go back that far. If he did say that, he lied, and that's gonna be a problem for POST.


He most likely lied about being gay when running for sheriff because at the time DADT was still around, and if I recall he's a reservist in the army.

Not defending it just saying that's probably why he lied.
Couch-Commando  [Team Member]
2/18/2012 11:57:19 PM

Originally Posted By Friendly_Crusader:
Originally Posted By JLH3:

Originally Posted By victorgonzales:
Don't care if he is gay. The rest is probably made up bullshit. I think the guy does a good job and will support him.


IIRC, he denied being gay when he ran for sheriff. And yes, the rumors go back that far. If he did say that, he lied, and that's gonna be a problem for POST.


He most likely lied about being gay when running for sheriff because at the time DADT was still around, and if I recall he's a reservist in the army.

Not defending it just saying that's probably why he lied.
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PHOENIX13  [Team Member]
2/19/2012 12:10:38 AM
I don't give two shits if he lied when he ran, or anytime afterwards. Fact of the matter is that he is one hell of a Sheriff. I highy doubt that he threatened "Jose" with deportation, this is nothing more than a lovers quarrel, just seems that one person in it has a lot more to loose with allegations.

Disclaimer: I work for Babeu, but I feel that gives me a better insight to the man.
Javelinadave  [Member]
2/19/2012 12:18:50 AM
You can't buy this much entertainment!
rizzo1318  [Team Member]
2/19/2012 11:25:00 AM
This reminds me of 'Blazing Saddles.'

"A GAY sheriff?!"
wingnutx  [Team Member]
2/19/2012 1:16:38 PM

Originally Posted By danelen:

I care less about his sexual orientation than I do about how he landscapes his yard Same

I do also care about anyone on the left or the right abusing their position Same

so I hope that part is just bunk. Yup



alphabavo  [Team Member]
2/19/2012 1:48:05 PM
I gotta say, that tribal shoulder tattoo is terrible...

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brandyspaw  [Member]
2/19/2012 1:54:36 PM
Originally Posted By PHOENIX13:
I don't give two shits if he lied when he ran, or anytime afterwards. Fact of the matter is that he is one hell of a Sheriff. I highy doubt that he threatened "Jose" with deportation, this is nothing more than a lovers quarrel, just seems that one person in it has a lot more to loose with allegations.


I agree. While I don't like the homosexual agenda (trying to push the lifestyle into the mainstream like most liberals do) I really don't care what Babeu does in his
private life. Only thing I care about is his conservative politics and his superlative job performance thus far in both the miltiary and law enforcement.
mechelaar  [Member]
2/19/2012 2:22:50 PM
"studboi1"? For real? I'm sorry, but half of this story doesn't pass the smell test to me. I'm not saying that dude isn't gay, just saying that it's hard to believe he is stupid enough to post identifying gay personal ads. I would not be surprised if Babeu's boyfriend made the personals up using "private" pictures in an attempt to out him. If not, his career should be over due to monumental stupidity, not due to being gay.
CPT1-285TH  [Team Member]
2/19/2012 2:29:31 PM
Originally Posted By Friendly_Crusader:
Originally Posted By JLH3:

Originally Posted By victorgonzales:
Don't care if he is gay. The rest is probably made up bullshit. I think the guy does a good job and will support him.


IIRC, he denied being gay when he ran for sheriff. And yes, the rumors go back that far. If he did say that, he lied, and that's gonna be a problem for POST.


He most likely lied about being gay when running for sheriff because at the time DADT was still around, and if I recall he's a reservist in the army.

Not defending it just saying that's probably why he lied.


He retired from the AZARNG not too long ago. He was basically told to retire after he was seen doing political activities in uniform which is not allowed.
wingnutx  [Team Member]
2/19/2012 3:21:55 PM

Originally Posted By PHOENIX13:

Disclaimer: I work for Babeu, but I feel that gives me a better insight to the man.

Do you know a reserve Seabee chief in your department?
AZ_newguy  [Member]
2/19/2012 4:20:37 PM
The word was out that he was gay last election. He won on promising the remove county photo radar. He won and did remove it. Most his guys support him, that's good enough for me.
SteelTalon  [Member]
2/19/2012 9:37:47 PM
I dont think he is too conservative when he's posting boner shots,and discussing blow jobs on the web (if true)...

His Department dosnt deserve the negative attention that may come of this.
alphabavo  [Team Member]
2/19/2012 10:09:27 PM
Originally Posted By SteelTalon:
I dont think he is too conservative when he's posting boner shots,and discussing blow jobs on the web (if true)...

His Department dosnt deserve the negative attention that may come of this.


It hasn't been confirmed that he posted the pictures. Could have been someone that wanted to see him fall.

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victorgonzales  [Team Member]
2/19/2012 10:42:18 PM

Originally Posted By SteelTalon:
I dont think he is too conservative when he's posting boner shots,and discussing blow jobs on the web (if true)...

His Department dosnt deserve the negative attention that may come of this.

Even though it isn't politically smart whats not conservative? Id bet you 90 percent of the conservatives would discuss a blowjob on the internet and most single conservatives would send a chick a pic of their boner if it was welcomed as well.
Uofaspyder  [Member]
2/19/2012 11:10:30 PM
Some good things from all of this, it is going to be really difficult for liberals to continue to say he is a Neo-Nazi white supremacist when he is openly gay and has been involved with a hispanic man.

What 2 consenting adults decide to do in their bedroom, I could care less.

He has done a good job, done what he has said and continues to work to increase the safety of those of us who live in Pinal County. I think he is leaps and bounds above Dupnik and Arpaio. I have had the chance to meet and talk with him briefly, he is an intelligent, articulate and logical guy.

I hope that this just moves on, and he can continue doing good work. I like that he has taken the stance of "Yes I am gay, No I did not threaten this man with deportation, No I will not talk about my personal life."

Until they can give me something to the contrary, it is good enough for me.
SteelTalon  [Member]
2/20/2012 1:54:41 PM
Originally Posted By victorgonzales:

Originally Posted By SteelTalon:
I dont think he is too conservative when he's posting boner shots,and discussing blow jobs on the web (if true)...

His Department dosnt deserve the negative attention that may come of this.

Even though it isn't politically smart whats not conservative? Id bet you 90 percent of the conservatives would discuss a blowjob on the internet and most single conservatives would send a chick a pic of their boner if it was welcomed as well.


I can only speak for myself, I'm conservative and I'm not part of that 90%. I don't even have a facebook account, nor do I post pictures of myself or my family on the net. Been married 30 years and have several children.

If all this proves to be true then he is an idiot! What goes onto the net, stays on the net forever. You would think as a person that is out there in the public eye and actively seeking higher office. He would be more cautious of what his proclivities are. But he's a slave to his sexuality, he actively trolled gay men sites to find a receptacle. Not a loving lasting relationship.

I don't care if he is gay or not, I base my judgment on a mans courage, his word, his intelligence and his integrity to those he is responsible for.





Isenhelm  [Team Member]
2/20/2012 7:14:16 PM

Originally Posted By alphabavo:
I gotta say, that tribal shoulder tattoo is terrible...

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Yeah its pretty gay.....


His sexual orientation and taste in tattoos are not the same preference as mine and I may make off jokes, But
if he does his job, if he is the best man for the job I support him in that role.

It sounds like a smear campaign, political, personal revenge or other/both.

I will be listening to the Mike Broomhead show to hear what the Sheriff has to say himself on the show at 5:35.



alphabavo  [Team Member]
2/20/2012 7:21:20 PM
Ex boyfriend came out and said he is here legally, so there goes that allegation. I'm sure most of the rest was fabricated bullshit as well.

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azjeeper  [Member]
2/20/2012 8:11:03 PM
Gould seems to be taking full advantage of the situation.
Reaper171  [Team Member]
2/20/2012 8:17:38 PM
Seems like a smear to me.

Seen him on national TV often in the last year saying things people up there dislike, so it is understandable allegations would hit.

Tactic is to pop the shocking allegations with fanfare, make him defend. Too bad our society is of a set that they won't hear his defense and forever assume it was true.
Winston_Wolf  [Team Member]
2/20/2012 8:26:17 PM

Originally Posted By Isenhelm:

Originally Posted By alphabavo:
I gotta say, that tribal shoulder tattoo is terrible...

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Yeah its pretty gay.....


His sexual orientation and taste in tattoos are not the same preference as mine and I may make off jokes, But
if he does his job, if he is the best man for the job I support him in that role.

It sounds like a smear campaign, political, personal revenge or other/both.

I will be listening to the Mike Broomhead show to hear what the Sheriff has to say himself on the show at 5:35.




... Me too

And it is a smear campaign, leftists HATE Arizona for our Conservative nature
wingnutx  [Team Member]
2/20/2012 8:59:30 PM

Originally Posted By alphabavo:

Ex boyfriend came out and said he is here legally, so there goes that allegation. I'm sure most of the rest was fabricated bullshit as well.


He's here on a ten year visa.

That was my biggest question.
alphabavo  [Team Member]
2/20/2012 9:39:30 PM
Originally Posted By wingnutx:

Originally Posted By alphabavo:

Ex boyfriend came out and said he is here legally, so there goes that allegation. I'm sure most of the rest was fabricated bullshit as well.


He's here on a ten year visa.

That was my biggest question.


Apparently he owns a company here, so that might not be out of the ordinary.

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Joe_Blacke  [Member]
2/20/2012 10:07:50 PM
Originally Posted By victorgonzales:

Originally Posted By SteelTalon:
I dont think he is too conservative when he's posting boner shots,and discussing blow jobs on the web (if true)...

His Department dosnt deserve the negative attention that may come of this.

Even though it isn't politically smart whats not conservative? Id bet you 90 percent of the conservatives would discuss a blowjob on the internet and most single conservatives would send a chick a pic of their boner if it was welcomed as well.


There are large differences between discussing sex (or sex acts) in general, discussing YOUR OWN sexual acts with a specific "committed" partner. I would never discuss anything of that nature (between my wife and I) on an internet site.

Now, I have standards as to what I would expect to be appropriate behavior, but I have higher standards of what I expect LE and elected officials to abide by.

What exactly is different from what Babeau did as compared to Anthony Weiner? Personally, I think if you wanted Weiner to resign, but don't hold the same measuring stick up to Babeau, then you are a hypocrite.

The internet trolling, the sexting, the "looking for 1/1 sex" in NOT something I consider acceptable. I don't care if nearly everthing he has done in office is something I can support. His direct actions show horrible judgement. It shows recklessness.

If it was a friend doing it, I'd tell him he was an idiot and be prudent in my interaction with them going forward. If it is an elected official, I'm not going to look for a way to condone their behavior. They need to go.

alphabavo  [Team Member]
2/20/2012 10:20:42 PM
Originally Posted By Joe_Blacke:
Originally Posted By victorgonzales:

Originally Posted By SteelTalon:
I dont think he is too conservative when he's posting boner shots,and discussing blow jobs on the web (if true)...

His Department dosnt deserve the negative attention that may come of this.

Even though it isn't politically smart whats not conservative? Id bet you 90 percent of the conservatives would discuss a blowjob on the internet and most single conservatives would send a chick a pic of their boner if it was welcomed as well.


There are large differences between discussing sex (or sex acts) in general, discussing YOUR OWN sexual acts with a specific "committed" partner. I would never discuss anything of that nature (between my wife and I) on an internet site.

Now, I have standards as to what I would expect to be appropriate behavior, but I have higher standards of what I expect LE and elected officials to abide by.

What exactly is different from what Babeau did as compared to Anthony Weiner? Personally, I think if you wanted Weiner to resign, but don't hold the same measuring stick up to Babeau, then you are a hypocrite.

The internet trolling, the sexting, the "looking for 1/1 sex" in NOT something I consider acceptable. I don't care if nearly everthing he has done in office is something I can support. His direct actions show horrible judgement. It shows recklessness.

If it was a friend doing it, I'd tell him he was an idiot and be prudent in my interaction with them going forward. If it is an elected official, I'm not going to look for a way to condone their behavior. They need to go.



He said his profiles were hacked, he said he has proof. I believe him.

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