Kobra (Cobra) Red Dot Sights (AK and Weaver Mounts -- all current models) Group Buy

Condition: [waived]
Closing date: March 27, 2005
Payment period: Payments must be received before April 5, 2005
Delivery: shipping commences as soon as payment is received
Form of payment: money orders, certified checks or personal checks (credit cards/paypal with additional $5).
Shipping charge: $8 regardless of destination within the U.S.

Price: $159.95

Contact: order@FreedomOptics.com

For specs and pics, see:

Cobra (Kobra) Model EKP-1S-03M Red Dot Sight (AK Mount, AA Batteries)

Cobra (Kobra) Model EKP-8-02 Red Dot Sight (AK Mount)

Cobra (Kobra) Model EKP-8-18 Red Dot Sight (Weaver Mount)

I bought an AK Kobra (Model EKP-1S-03M) from Freedom Optics last year. It's really a neat sight and should work well in a Weaver base for the AR.

+1 for Freedom Optics. I'm on my second sight from them and have had nothing but great experiences.

Have any of you seen this ad? The imply that others might be selling older gear... I can see a difference on both of these... Is this one the new one or is Kalinka selling the old one?

www.kalinkaoptics.com/cgi-bin/kowstore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=GSKECS15

Ive wanted to buy one of these for a while, but wasnt really sure who to believe...

FreedomOptics is an authorized importer of Kobra sights into the North American market. If interested, I can post a photocopy of the certificate issued to us by the Russian manufacturer of the Kobra sights. The Kobra sights that I'm offering are the most recent production, fully covered by the manufacturer's warranty and are in stock in NY, USA. Most of the Kobra sights that you would receive from me are manufactured in December of 2004, some in May/June 2004. The only other authorized importer/retailer of the Kobra sights in the U.S. is Tantal.

Kalinka is full of BS. The Kobra manufacturer, Axion, has informed me that Kalinka is not authorized to sell these into the U.S. and that Axion doesn't sell Kobra sights to Kalinka directly. As I understand, Kalinka circumvents that by shipping their products through a Russian retailer in St. Petersburg, Russia. Others can express their views about Kalinka's business practices.... All I can say is that I don't do business with Kalinka. I was also recently informed by the manufacturer in Belarus that supplies us with the PK-AS and PK-AV sights, that Kalinka through a Russian retailer apparently acquired several PK-AS, PK-AV and PK-A sights that didn't pass quality control inspection due to a variety of defects and were sold to the domestic Russian market. Kalinka then listed them for sale in the U.S. So, if you've bought any PK-AS, PK-AV or PK-A sights from Kalinka recently, please don't be surprised if they have defects in finish, optics or electronics -- they will not be serviced by the manufacturer either because the manufacturer expressly requested that Kalinka remove the defective sights from their website, which request Kalinka ignored (this information was shared with me by the manufacturer in Belarus). Also, I was recently approached by a "gun show dealer" who used to buy wholesale from Kalinka and he informed me that he got screwed out of several thousand dollars when Kalinka failed to deliver on their promises and informed him that they filed for bankruptcy. Whether Kalinka indeed filed for bankruptcy I didn't care to find out, but I do have correspondence with the dealer to support my statement above. Also, Kalinka has "stole" some intellectual property, such as images, portions of instructions manuals, descriptions of products from me and others on the Internet. When people asked them to either remove that information from their website or give credit to those who created that information, Kalinka simply ignored them. Anyway, let's not turn this thread into Kalinka bashing -- enough has been said about them elsewhere...

Didnt want to derail your thread... Much more info than even I expected... Ive ordered from Kalinka before (going back to check for blems), but never knew they had that kindof rep. Good to know.

email sent and tagged for later

tagged

What are the differences between the EKP-1S-03M and EKP-8-02?

Originally Posted By TheRealSundance: What are the differences between the EKP-1S-03M and EKP-8-02?

The type of battery it takes. The 1S-03M takes AA the 8-02 takes lithium tablets or something like that.

Other differences:

-03M: controls on the left side, elevation/windage dials have covers, has a removable sunshade

-02: controls on the right side, arguably it is slightly lighter than the -03M Kobre due to it using a small battery

they are electronically and optically identical otherwise.

Tag.

Check your mail. I'm in for the AA battery, AK rail model.

Id be interested in one

Curious why these are so expensive? A couple years agoe these were $119.00, just curious!

Originally Posted By samadams: Curious why these are so expensive? A couple years agoe these were $119.00, just curious!

I agree. A couple of years ago, transferable M16s were only $4000 and houses were 30% cheaper. It's outrageous that those prices are not still in effect.

Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen: Originally Posted By samadams: Curious why these are so expensive? A couple years agoe these were $119.00, just curious! I agree. A couple of years ago, transferable M16s were only $4000 and houses were 30% cheaper. It's outrageous that those prices are not still in effect.

Yeah! What the hell.

and the US$ was about 60% stronger compared to the Russian Ruble and Euro....

Tag - I need to read up on the 3 different models, but I am in for at least one of them...


ETA: Okay, I did the reading - I am in for one EKP-8-18 (Weaver mount) if you get the minimum number/group price. (If the price goes up I will have to reassess.) Thanks!

Tag to read up on these optics.

I'm in for an 03M

How's it looking? Are you close to 50 yet? (have you posted it in the AK-47 forums and FALfiles?) If so, I may be in for one. Does the one for Weaver bases have the AA battery option or is that one lithium only?

Thanks
Rich

Yes, post a list of usernames. I would probably be in for a Gen 2 AK mount.

The weaver mount Kobra doesn't have the AA battery option.

Unless the interest improves closer to the deadline, it doesn't look like I'll have 50 pcs, but it maybe too early to say. If I don't reach 50, for those who expressed interest I may still cut a good deal, but not at $159.95.

Yuri,

I think if you advertised this at gunco and akfiles as well you would get 50 buyers.

May be too early, i know i've just been watching the thread. What number are you at? I'd take an 03m.

Any updates? I'm trying to decide between the "weaver" version or a Hakko BEC-24 for my 10/22 "Ultimate Plinker" build.

Thanks
Rich

Gentlemen, I didn't want to advertise this group buy on other boards, but I can't prevent you from doing that.

I have no updates, hoping that it's too early to judge the interest.

Originally Posted By kalibr: Gentlemen, I didn't want to advertise this group buy on other boards, but I can't prevent you from doing that.

Check.



Rich

Which would be better for a lefty?

They all sit centerbore, so there it doesn't matter whether you're a lefty or a righty.

Yeah, but I'm thinking that controls on the right might be easier to access for me.

You're right, I didn't think about that, although some people may use the trigger hand for adjustments.

Okay, let me make a revision. For the group buy to take place, I need to get indications of interest for 50 sights by March 20th (not necessarily the payment, as stated in my original post). Please e-mail me to order@freedomoptics.com if you'd be interested in a Kobra sight.

Yuri,
I emailed you yesterday about one of the Cobra (Kobra) Model EKP-1S-03M Red Dot Sight (AK Mount, AA Batteries). Please remember me!
-Ken JX

Email sent.

all the e-mails are noted, thank you. I'll post a list of people subscribed to the group buy by the end of this week.

How do the AA and the button cell battery versions compare for battery life? Since they're both about the same size, what advantages does the button cell version have, assuming that the AA has much longer battery life?

The AA battery model does have a much greater battery life. Some people like the look of the -02 model better or the control on the right side, but generally, the -03 model is more popular (at least in my experience).

Email sent on EKP-1S-03M

Okay, I've decided that the group buy will happen even if I don't get the 50 orders, so whoever wants any of the Kobra's at the $159.95 price, please let me know before the March 20th deadline.

Originally Posted By kalibr: The AA battery model does have a much greater battery life. Some people like the look of the -02 model better or the control on the right side, but generally, the -03 model is more popular (at least in my experience).

Which one do you like better?

I'm gonna tag this. I might be interested in the 03M also.

How much does the "Weaver version" weigh?

Thanks
Rich

I have a slight personal preference for the -03 model primarily due to the positioning of the controls.

They all weight about the same, a few grams under a pound, and the weaver version is just a bit lighter than the AK versions as the weaver mount is smaller.

Please keep those e-mail orders coming

Tag for later.

Email sent for confirmation

Email sent for one.

ARguy

tagged

I'm in for the weaver mount type. SCRAP THAT, I'll take the left side adjustable ak type...

Gentlemen, sorry for not getting back to some of you -- had to deal with some pressing issues. The group buy is happening. I'll reply to everyone and will post payment info and the list of people who have subscribed this weekend.

yours truly,

Yuri

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