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 CatfishBeach / SmartDrug ...(Completely resolved)
SmartDrug  [Team Member]
2/3/2012 1:46:32 AM
Had a trade setup about a week ago, been 5 days now and no response/followup. The guy literally has a post count of zero, no feedback, non-Team Member, the name he gave doesn't match his email name (despite the email address being very similar to his screenname), etc. and now he's ducking me. I'm not really upset by this, but I marked my item "trade pending" about 2 weeks ago when he said he was in, so that sucks; mostly I'm just worried that it's a scam and he's looking to grab some loot for free (especially with the two different names).

Guide me ARFCOM.


From:CatfishBeach
To:SmartDrug
Date:1/21/2012 9:19:51 PM CST
Subject:Tag....

Any interest in a Springfield XD45 with hard case, two high cap mags and insight MX6 laser light combo? I love this watch...




My Reply:

CatfishBeach,
I thought about it today and I'll take you up on the trade, I would like to see pics first but otherwise, I'm good to go on this. Thanks and let me know your contact info and I'll get you my FFL's info.


-My name/Number



From:CatfishBeach
To:SmartDrug
Date:1/23/2012 10:50:00 AM CST
Subject:Re[2]: Tag....

Sounds good. I will get pics together today and send them over. Thanks!




From:CatfishBeach
To:SmartDrug
Date:1/23/2012 10:54:06 AM CST
Subject:Re[2]: Tag....

Can you send me some futher pictures of the watch back, band, etc? Thanks again.
-His name/Number




He had some problem responding in PMs at this point, I can post the whole thing (sentences inserted in the middle of previous messages), but this is what was conveyed next.



Rick,
Not a problem, will take me a few days as I'm in Atlanta for a majority of this week and the watch isn't with me.

-Brian - My email address


His reply:

Sounds good. I am super excited. I have wanted this particular TAG for a long while now.

From him 5 hours later:

I sent three photos via email. Let me know if you would like any others. Thx again.



Now for what it's worth, his emails come from a completely different first and last name as the PMs on here but the email address is similar to his SN.


I respond to him:

CatfishBeach,
Got 'em, pistol looks great. I'll contact my FFL tomorrow and get the ball rolling on this. I'll see if the wife can get pics of the watch but that might need to wait a few days. Either way, I have her jotted down as trade pending, we'll get this sorted. Thanks and I'll be in touch.

-Me


A few days pass of my being on the road and no comms and I get this:

From:CatfishBeach
To:SmartDrug
Date:1/28/2012 6:49:33 AM CST
Subject:Re[6]: Tag....

Are we still moving forward with this trade? Got the gun all ready to go out.


I reply with:

Sorry man, just got home earlier today, long week, I have her, ready for pictures or whatever you want. Easiest way for me would be to text them to you, but if you need via email, that's fine too, let me know what you want shots of, she looks basically new in box w/ tags (pun intended) and paperwork, there are light scratches on the band but as you can see from the pics already up, the face looks pretty much immaculate. Let me know what you need and I'll get it over to you ASAP.

Thanks,
Brian


His reply:


From:CatfishBeach
To:SmartDrug
Date:1/28/2012 11:31:51 PM CST
Subject:Re: Tag....


I just need FFL transfer info. No need for more pictures. Thanks again.

Catfish




I sent him a few more PMs and an email but that's the last response from him. I don't have a copy of those as for some reason my account doesn't save copies of sent IMs- I have done due diligence here trying to reach him- obviously I want the trade to go down.
Gatorhunt  [Moderator]
2/3/2012 2:25:51 AM
Yes, please.
SmartDrug  [Team Member]
2/3/2012 2:39:27 AM
Updated first post.
Gatorhunt  [Moderator]
2/3/2012 5:18:13 AM
This statement here is what I would call a sealed deal...

I just need FFL transfer info. No need for more pictures. Thanks again.


CatfishBeach's profile

I sent an IM and e-mail with a link to this, lets see if he'll respond.
CatfishBeach  [Member]
2/3/2012 8:22:46 AM
Wow, really? Didn't you get my VM telling you I was going to be out of touch until Friday and I need your FFL to send a copy of his FFL paperwork to my FFL before they will ship the firearm. It is already sitting at their office, just waiting FOR YOU... I left the same VM for your FFL and did not get a call back from either one of you! I thought for sure he would just send the paperwork over. The hold up is on your end amigo, not mine. I am waiting on your FFL! Thanks for the feedback though! Guess I should reciprocate.
CatfishBeach  [Member]
2/3/2012 8:36:12 AM
Originally Posted By SmartDrug:
Had a trade setup about a week ago, been 5 days now and no response/followup. The guy literally has a post count of zero, no feedback, non-Team Member, the name he gave doesn't match his email name (despite the email address being very similar to his screenname), etc. and now he's ducking me. I'm not really upset by this, but I marked my item "trade pending" about 2 weeks ago when he said he was in, so that sucks; mostly I'm just worried that it's a scam and he's looking to grab some loot for free (especially with the two different names).

Guide me ARFCOM.


From:CatfishBeach
To:SmartDrug
Date:1/21/2012 9:19:51 PM CST
Subject:Tag....

Any interest in a Springfield XD45 with hard case, two high cap mags and insight MX6 laser light combo? I love this watch...




My Reply:

CatfishBeach,
I thought about it today and I'll take you up on the trade, I would like to see pics first but otherwise, I'm good to go on this. Thanks and let me know your contact info and I'll get you my FFL's info.


-My name/Number



From:CatfishBeach
To:SmartDrug
Date:1/23/2012 10:50:00 AM CST
Subject:Re[2]: Tag....

Sounds good. I will get pics together today and send them over. Thanks!




From:CatfishBeach
To:SmartDrug
Date:1/23/2012 10:54:06 AM CST
Subject:Re[2]: Tag....

Can you send me some futher pictures of the watch back, band, etc? Thanks again.
-His name/Number




He had some problem responding in PMs at this point, I can post the whole thing (sentences inserted in the middle of previous messages), but this is what was conveyed next.



Rick,
Not a problem, will take me a few days as I'm in Atlanta for a majority of this week and the watch isn't with me.

-Brian - My email address


His reply:

Sounds good. I am super excited. I have wanted this particular TAG for a long while now.

From him 5 hours later:

I sent three photos via email. Let me know if you would like any others. Thx again.



Now for what it's worth, his emails come from a completely different first and last name as the PMs on here but the email address is similar to his SN.


I respond to him:

CatfishBeach,
Got 'em, pistol looks great. I'll contact my FFL tomorrow and get the ball rolling on this. I'll see if the wife can get pics of the watch but that might need to wait a few days. Either way, I have her jotted down as trade pending, we'll get this sorted. Thanks and I'll be in touch.

-Me


A few days pass of my being on the road and no comms and I get this:

From:CatfishBeach
To:SmartDrug
Date:1/28/2012 6:49:33 AM CST
Subject:Re[6]: Tag....

Are we still moving forward with this trade? Got the gun all ready to go out.


I reply with:

Sorry man, just got home earlier today, long week, I have her, ready for pictures or whatever you want. Easiest way for me would be to text them to you, but if you need via email, that's fine too, let me know what you want shots of, she looks basically new in box w/ tags (pun intended) and paperwork, there are light scratches on the band but as you can see from the pics already up, the face looks pretty much immaculate. Let me know what you need and I'll get it over to you ASAP.

Thanks,
Brian


His reply:


From:CatfishBeach
To:SmartDrug
Date:1/28/2012 11:31:51 PM CST
Subject:Re: Tag....


I just need FFL transfer info. No need for more pictures. Thanks again.

Catfish




I sent him a few more PMs and an email but that's the last response from him. I don't have a copy of those as for some reason my account doesn't save copies of sent IMs- I have done due diligence here trying to reach him- obviously I want the trade to go down.



This is unbelievable. Five days is how long you had to wait and you are throwing a tissy? Shit, I asked you for more photos of the watch and didn't hear from you for five days. You said you would be out of pocket, so I did not panic. Why would you? Unreal.

The email address that I use from my laptop does not have my real name because I make damn MONITORING SOFTWARE. I use that account for creating demo data of unacceptable work behavior and really don't want my real name associated with that demo data. That is why I called you and gave you my real name, number, address, etc. I can't believe this. I initiated this trade, I pushed for all the follow up, I was patient when you said you would be out of pocket, I called you! I called your FFL! I set this whole thing up with my FFL! I have driven this entire process and now that I have been out of pocket for the same five days and told you beforehand... THIS IS WHAT YOU POST? AMAZING. Thanks for the -1.
Gatorhunt  [Moderator]
2/3/2012 8:49:08 AM
Calm down CatfishBeach, this isn't a -1 for anybody yet.

The OP obviously thought there was an issue here, maybe it's on his end, maybe not.

Can you guys work together now and get this deal moving forward, it sounds to me like you both want nothing more than to complete the deal.
CatfishBeach  [Member]
2/3/2012 9:10:28 AM
I have sent another request for the paperwork my FFL needs emailed to get the ball rolling. Thanks for the help.
Gatorhunt  [Moderator]
2/3/2012 9:13:06 AM

Originally Posted By CatfishBeach:
I have sent another request for the paperwork my FFL needs emailed to get the ball rolling. Thanks for the help.

Thank you
SmartDrug  [Team Member]
2/3/2012 12:52:43 PM
Easy Catfish, I'm not trying to screw anyone here. All names/personal info have been removed, there is nothing here that's going to stick if the deal goes down.

I did not receive any Voicemail nor any other correspondence from you until I posted this thread, you still didn't respond to any of the other messages, just to the -1 thread. Couple that with the fact that you've used two different names and you must admit, it looks pretty fishy (again, pun intended).

No blood, no foul though, we'll get this sorted- enough bullshit threats via PM, let's be adult here - I'm just trying to protect myself, not drag your screenname through the mud.

BTW, This whole thread and the -1 will disappear once this is resolved, none of this is permanent.

Also, look at this from my perspective- new user, 2 names, items valued over $500, no messages for 5 days. You can say it's AMAZING or UNBELIEVEABLE and that I'm throwing/having a tissy, but I don't know you, your name doesn't carry any weight/reputation/feedback here. I'm merely looking out for my best interests and the interests of the community.
juliomorris  [Member]
2/3/2012 1:58:38 PM
Did he tell you he would be out of contact til friday and did you send the FFL info? I he did and you didn't then yes you jumped the gun because today is friday and why haven't you sent the info he requested?
SmartDrug  [Team Member]
2/3/2012 2:19:32 PM
He said he left a voicemail- while I didn't get it, I don't doubt he did- my service is awful and I might get it next month.

My info has been sent, in the hands of my FFL now, that's who he's talking about.
Gatorhunt  [Moderator]
2/3/2012 11:20:04 PM

Originally Posted By SmartDrug:
He said he left a voicemail- while I didn't get it, I don't doubt he did- my service is awful and I might get it next month.

My info has been sent, in the hands of my FFL now, that's who he's talking about.

You must have the same service my buddy has, he'll get voice mails 2-3 days after they were left.


Glad this is working out, keep me posted.
CatfishBeach  [Member]
2/4/2012 4:25:55 PM
I actually got your FFL on the phone while I was at my FFL today and had them talk. Seems the delay was your FFL was waiting to release his paperwork until he received the paperwork from mine. Seems he thought he was sending a firearm back to me and that is not the case. So, he said he was sending info over to process and the gun is at my FFLs awaiting a Monday ship date. They said it is going out first thing.
SmartDrug  [Team Member]
2/4/2012 9:38:15 PM
Rock and roll, sorry to jump the gun w/this thread.

Watch will be out w/insurance and tracking # as soon as the pistol shows up, she's boxed up and ready to go.


FWIW, I did get his voicemail, sorry man.
CatfishBeach  [Member]
2/7/2012 8:12:55 PM
I don't know if this is typical or not, but my FFL said they will have a tracking gnumber and ensure the gun up to $600.00 but they could not get me the tracking number today.. Said the young lady who does their transfers was out of the office. I don't know if we need it, but would be nice to have. They charged me $35.00 for the shipping part and said they just send it via USPS with the speediest they can afford with the $35.00. I would assume it will be there before the weekend if it left Monday morning.
SmartDrug  [Team Member]
2/8/2012 1:00:20 AM
No worries, it'll get there eventually.
CatfishBeach  [Member]
2/20/2012 8:17:49 PM
So, when does this thread go away?
Gatorhunt  [Moderator]
2/20/2012 8:27:31 PM

Originally Posted By CatfishBeach:
So, when does this thread go away?

I was sort of waiting for a final update that we were all GTG here.



Then I'll edit the title to ad resolved and remove the -1, but the thread stays, it's part of EE history now.
SmartDrug  [Team Member]
2/21/2012 12:09:47 PM
100% squared away now. Catfishbeach completely upheld his end of the deal and the whole -1 fiasco was due to my missing his communications.

Deal went down, his pistol was in amazing condition and just as described.

A +1 was given in his feedback, highly recommended guy.

Sorry Catfishbeach for this thread.
Gatorhunt  [Moderator]
2/21/2012 12:20:05 PM
Awesome!, I edited the title with both your names so if anyone does a search they can find this and see the outcome.




I'll lock'r down.




ETA....thanks to both members for getting this worked out.
SYSTEM  
2/21/2012 12:21:20 PM
Resolved, thanks guys!