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buck19delta  [Team Member]
11/25/2009 6:28:06 PM
i want to do a gun project. i want to buy a sp-89, which in turn i want to sbr, and turn it into a mp5k pdw, with a supressor eventually...... i dont see any real difficulties making the conversion, it seems really simple. unfortunately, im not up to speed on h&k prices. i know a h&k 91 is $2000-$3000 bucks, same for a h&k 94 etc...... i have only seen two sp89's at gunshops, the last one was about 3 -5 years ago, i think it sold for $1200-$1500, bucks, however on gunbroker they are looking to be &$3000-$4500....... so whats a decent ballpark price for one of these,???????????also..... would it be easier, as in easier to locate , cheaper, to buy a h&k94, and turn it into a regular mp5, i have seen 1 h&k 94 im not sure which one is the rarer model., im open to other suggestions if there is a quality clone i could work with for less $$$???????


h&k sp89



mp5kPDW

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oldfool  [Member]
11/25/2009 6:56:19 PM
You might want to start looking @ sturmgewehr.com for a gun that had the sear divorced from the gun. My self I had mine built from a SP89 I bought when they first came out, bought a sear & sent everything to ralph @ R.D.T.S.
retrodog  [Member]
11/25/2009 8:58:29 PM
The SP-89 is the easiest to convert. Just make sure it has the longer barrel with the three lug. You'll need that for a PDW. Then you just add the vertical grip and folding stock. Now comes the tricky part... the paddle mag release. You'll notice a little tab hanging down on the PDW, right behind the mag well. You will have to have a professional do some machine work to install that. You don't absolutely have to have it but it's a lot more functional like that. An HK-94 would need a barrel change or at least a chop-job and then threaded for a three-lug end adapter.

The prices on the HK-94 and SP89 have gone up. Expect to pay around $3,500-$4,000.

As mentioned before, finding an already converted one might be easier/cheaper.
buck19delta  [Team Member]
11/25/2009 9:54:42 PM
too bad ptr does not acquire some machinery and start making a mp5 variant, it would sell like hotcakes......
retrodog  [Member]
11/25/2009 10:44:11 PM
Originally Posted By buck19delta:
too bad ptr does not acquire some machinery and start making a mp5 variant, it would sell like hotcakes......


And unlike the 91, it would actually work with those shallow flutes that they are so well known for.
rollin_hot  [Team Member]
11/27/2009 6:09:17 PM
Originally Posted By buck19delta:
i want to do a gun project. i want to buy a sp-89, which in turn i want to sbr, and turn it into a mp5k pdw, with a supressor eventually...... i dont see any real difficulties making the conversion, it seems really simple. unfortunately, im not up to speed on h&k prices. i know a h&k 91 is $2000-$3000 bucks, same for a h&k 94 etc...... i have only seen two sp89's at gunshops, the last one was about 3 -5 years ago, i think it sold for $1200-$1500, bucks, however on gunbroker they are looking to be &$3000-$4500....... so whats a decent ballpark price for one of these,???????????also..... would it be easier, as in easier to locate , cheaper, to buy a h&k94, and turn it into a regular mp5, i have seen 1 h&k 94 im not sure which one is the rarer model., im open to other suggestions if there is a quality clone i could work with for less $$$???????


I paid $3600 for mine and promptly had it rebarreled (3 lug for suppressor)for another $700 by Ralph at RDTS about three years ago. As far as a 94 to MP5 conversion...that is equally as pricey. If you plan on staying semi auto, you can anticipate spending $4000-$5500 for either (before the suppressor) by the time it is all said and done. If you paln on going full auto, plan on adding $12k-$15k for a sear.

SP89=$3600
Tax Stamp=$200
Rebarrel to 3 lug and refinish=$700
SEF lower=$120
Extended selector=$50
Folding stock=$150
SWR Trident=$700
Tax Stamp #2=$200















UZI4you  [Team Member]
11/27/2009 10:36:18 PM
Sexy SP89 SBR rollin_hot

Buck19delta if you are looking for a project gun why not buy a SP89 clone? Vector made them for a time, and Bobcat/SW/Cohaire made them too.

I think they are going to stop making the SP89k, last time I saw an ad in Shotgun News for their "going out of production sale" they were $1150 to 1300

http://coharie-arms.com/ca89kp.html

I would rather own the HK Sp89, but I'll put up with the problems of owning a HK style clone for a few thousand dollars.
retrodog  [Member]
11/27/2009 11:52:07 PM
Originally Posted By rollin_hot:
Originally Posted By buck19delta:
i want to do a gun project. i want to buy a sp-89, which in turn i want to sbr, and turn it into a mp5k pdw, with a supressor eventually...... i dont see any real difficulties making the conversion, it seems really simple. unfortunately, im not up to speed on h&k prices. i know a h&k 91 is $2000-$3000 bucks, same for a h&k 94 etc...... i have only seen two sp89's at gunshops, the last one was about 3 -5 years ago, i think it sold for $1200-$1500, bucks, however on gunbroker they are looking to be &$3000-$4500....... so whats a decent ballpark price for one of these,???????????also..... would it be easier, as in easier to locate , cheaper, to buy a h&k94, and turn it into a regular mp5, i have seen 1 h&k 94 im not sure which one is the rarer model., im open to other suggestions if there is a quality clone i could work with for less $$$???????


I paid $3600 for mine and promptly had it rebarreled (3 lug for suppressor)for another $700 by Ralph at RDTS about three years ago. As far as a 94 to MP5 conversion...that is equally as pricey. If you plan on staying semi auto, you can anticipate spending $4000-$5500 for either (before the suppressor) by the time it is all said and done. If you paln on going full auto, plan on adding $12k-$15k for a sear.

SP89=$3600
Tax Stamp=$200
Rebarrel to 3 lug and refinish=$700
SEF lower=$120
Extended selector=$50
Folding stock=$150
SWR Trident=$700
Tax Stamp #2=$200


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Beautiful gun... but needs a paddle.


rollin_hot  [Team Member]
11/28/2009 12:38:19 AM
Originally Posted By retrodog:
Originally Posted By rollin_hot:
Originally Posted By buck19delta:
i want to do a gun project. i want to buy a sp-89, which in turn i want to sbr, and turn it into a mp5k pdw, with a supressor eventually...... i dont see any real difficulties making the conversion, it seems really simple. unfortunately, im not up to speed on h&k prices. i know a h&k 91 is $2000-$3000 bucks, same for a h&k 94 etc...... i have only seen two sp89's at gunshops, the last one was about 3 -5 years ago, i think it sold for $1200-$1500, bucks, however on gunbroker they are looking to be &$3000-$4500....... so whats a decent ballpark price for one of these,???????????also..... would it be easier, as in easier to locate , cheaper, to buy a h&k94, and turn it into a regular mp5, i have seen 1 h&k 94 im not sure which one is the rarer model., im open to other suggestions if there is a quality clone i could work with for less $$$???????


I paid $3600 for mine and promptly had it rebarreled (3 lug for suppressor)for another $700 by Ralph at RDTS about three years ago. As far as a 94 to MP5 conversion...that is equally as pricey. If you plan on staying semi auto, you can anticipate spending $4000-$5500 for either (before the suppressor) by the time it is all said and done. If you paln on going full auto, plan on adding $12k-$15k for a sear.

SP89=$3600
Tax Stamp=$200
Rebarrel to 3 lug and refinish=$700
SEF lower=$120
Extended selector=$50
Folding stock=$150
SWR Trident=$700
Tax Stamp #2=$200


<a href="http://img33.imageshack.us/my.php?image=003plr.jpg" target="_blank">http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5418/003plr.jpg</a>

<a href="http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=002uzr.jpg" target="_blank">http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4589/002uzr.jpg</a>

<a href="http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=003alp.jpg" target="_blank">http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4250/003alp.jpg</a>

<a href="http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=001yxr.jpg" target="_blank">http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4113/001yxr.jpg</a>

<a href="http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=005y.jpg" target="_blank">http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9062/005y.jpg</a>

<a href="http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=004a.jpg" target="_blank">http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9263/004a.jpg</a>



Beautiful gun... but needs a paddle.




I know, I know....been meaning to do that for awhile, but something always comes up. Soon I hope...
gojoe  [Member]
11/28/2009 7:59:24 AM
Originally Posted By retrodog:
Originally Posted By buck19delta:
too bad ptr does not acquire some machinery and start making a mp5 variant, it would sell like hotcakes......


And unlike the 91, it would actually work with those shallow flutes that they are so well known for.


I've never had a problem with my PTR91, Have you had problems with yours?
buck19delta  [Team Member]
11/28/2009 10:44:35 AM
Originally Posted By gojoe:
Originally Posted By retrodog:
Originally Posted By buck19delta:
too bad ptr does not acquire some machinery and start making a mp5 variant, it would sell like hotcakes......


And unlike the 91, it would actually work with those shallow flutes that they are so well known for.


I've never had a problem with my PTR91, Have you had problems with yours?


never had a problem with mine either........... i am not planning on full auto......... yet....... if i had the gun all finished, then down the road i might tink about that........ it WOULD be sweet.
Shade00  [Member]
11/28/2009 1:10:18 PM
Another alternative is an MKE gun. They should be priced less than 2k and are made on HK tooling in Turkey. They aren't in-country yet, but I expect them to be excellent quality - next best thing to an HK - and I plan to buy at least one of the K pistols. And I already own a Coharie CA89K.
retrodog  [Member]
11/28/2009 5:06:26 PM
Originally Posted By gojoe:
Originally Posted By retrodog:
Originally Posted By buck19delta:
too bad ptr does not acquire some machinery and start making a mp5 variant, it would sell like hotcakes......


And unlike the 91, it would actually work with those shallow flutes that they are so well known for.


I've never had a problem with my PTR91, Have you had problems with yours?
Yes, me and about 1000 other people. PTR sent bad numbers to Thompson and the flutes ended up too shallow. They are very ammo-sensitive.

Clicker58  [Member]
11/28/2009 7:38:51 PM
Handled a beautiful SP89 in a local shop today. Priced at $3999.00
retrodog  [Member]
11/28/2009 8:48:19 PM
You can get a Coharie for about $1000. It comes with the barrel and paddle installed.

Texas_Infidel  [Team Member]
12/6/2009 8:30:59 PM
Picked up a NIB 3 months ago. $1,200.00 tax and all out the door at the gun show. Yes it was an HK

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MajorAR  [Team Member]
12/7/2009 4:27:17 AM
Originally Posted By Texas_Infidel:
Picked up a NIB 3 months ago. $1,200.00 tax and all out the door at the gun show. Yes it was an HK

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Wow!!! You got a great deal. Did you buy it off an individual??

rssc  [Member]
12/7/2009 10:12:33 PM
I picked up one that appears NIB or really darn close to it. $2700
retrodog  [Member]
12/8/2009 10:09:13 AM
Originally Posted By Texas_Infidel:
Picked up a NIB 3 months ago. $1,200.00 tax and all out the door at the gun show. Yes it was an HK

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Well you're either having fun with us or you really screwed somebody, or that was payback for some sort of services rendered. Or I guess it could be both the second and third.
hrt4me  [Team Member]
12/12/2009 2:40:18 PM
I'm looking to get rid of a new Eagle Industries HK-marked shoulder holster for the MP5K-PDW....
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