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 Pic request: MP5/HK94 w/ optics...
chapperjoe  [Team Member]
12/11/2005 6:44:34 AM EDT
specifically looking for the ARMS KAC - whoops! -hanguard with aimpoint extension, but any pics of MP5's or HK94's with optics will do. PLEASE only MP5's or HK94's and 9mm clones thanks!
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AK_Mike  [Team Member]
12/11/2005 7:09:27 AM EDT
Well, here's my MP5SD with an old Reflex sight using the ARMS Trijicon receiver mount, probably of no help to you though. This is an old pic, everything has been updated, but I do enjoy the throw lever ARMS receiver mounted rail.

faldoc  [Member]
12/11/2005 8:27:58 AM EDT
Does ARMS make an MP5 handguard?
Here is the KAC model:

Go here for Factory pics, page 11
www.knightarmco.com/knightscatalog.pdf
UZI4you  [Member]
12/11/2005 9:54:51 AM EDT
Here is a pic of my HK94 with a Henzolt 4X scope. The cool thing it is made for 9mm and stamped MP5.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=28&t=217329

Sorry I do not know how to hot link.

Also check my HK stand....I know I am a HK dork

Chris
glock223  [Team Member]
12/11/2005 10:46:45 AM EDT
Here ya go, made it HOT for ya


LINK TO PIC
AK_Mike  [Team Member]
12/11/2005 12:32:32 PM EDT
Skip the link, here's the pic

osprey21  [Team Member]
12/12/2005 4:32:00 AM EDT




not mine
CZ-75Jeff  [Member]
12/12/2005 6:11:19 AM EDT
not mine, but excellent photo...

Hunterex  [Member]
12/12/2005 6:53:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By osprey21:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/4_sale/hk53withbeta5uv1.jpg



not mine



Not yours, and not an Mp5 neither. HK53 in .223. Nice lookin' rig though.
chapperjoe  [Team Member]
12/12/2005 7:11:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hunterex:

Originally Posted By osprey21:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/4_sale/hk53withbeta5uv1.jpg



not mine



Not yours, and not an Mp5 neither. HK53 in .223. Nice lookin' rig though.



Didn't want to say anything. One day he might sell the FMP I wanted and I have to be nice!
osprey21  [Team Member]
12/12/2005 7:29:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hunterex:

Originally Posted By osprey21:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/4_sale/hk53withbeta5uv1.jpg



not mine



Not yours, and not an Mp5 neither. HK53 in .223. Nice lookin' rig though.


sometimes I get just excited....

THIS is the pic I intended to post.

chapperjoe  [Team Member]
12/12/2005 7:57:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By osprey21:

Originally Posted By Hunterex:

Originally Posted By osprey21:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/4_sale/hk53withbeta5uv1.jpg



not mine



Not yours, and not an Mp5 neither. HK53 in .223. Nice lookin' rig though.


sometimes I get just excited....

THIS is the pic I intended to post.

www.opticstalk.com/photoserver/images/photos/179.jpg



that is one WICKED room broom.
CaptainKevinDarling  [Member]
12/12/2005 8:02:21 AM EDT
Can you actually hold the K grip with a Beta-C in there?
cmeyer001  [Member]
12/12/2005 8:17:35 AM EDT
So, mounting anything with the ARMS throwlever mount removes the ability to colocate.

In terms of mounts, which mount is the best option to use with an ARMS 22M68 throw lever ring, no spacer ?

wes15a2  [Member]
12/12/2005 5:02:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hunterex:

Originally Posted By osprey21:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/4_sale/hk53withbeta5uv1.jpg



not mine



Not yours, and not an Mp5 neither. HK53 in .223. Nice lookin' rig though.



God eye, -ex.
Missed that one.
CZ-75Jeff  [Member]
12/13/2005 4:33:25 AM EDT
Here is a pic borrowed from Inverstment Grade Firearms. It's a 53, but still very cool!

chapperjoe  [Team Member]
12/13/2005 4:50:26 AM EDT
what would I need to do to SBR this in terms of barrel purchase? Is the barrel user-attachable or does a professional have to do it?
CZ-75Jeff  [Member]
12/13/2005 6:24:16 AM EDT
It depends on what you want:

In any event, an approved Form 1 must come first.

Then, you have a few options... none are really easily done.

Option 1: Have someone remove the 94 barrel and install a MP5 barrel. This takes a skilled machinest with a multi-ton press to take the barrel out and to put the new one in. Alos includes cuttine welds and re-welding/refinishing.

Option 2: Send it to one of the few smiths (I think S&H is one) who has a jig that he can cut down and thread the barrel without removing the barrel from the host. Then, a 3-lug adapter is permanently attached... The examples I have seen, are excellent, and you cannot tell a barrel extension has been added.

Option 3: Have a skilled machinest cut down and crown the barrel. This will be your cheapest option, but you will not have a true MP5 look. No 3-lug barrel, for example.
chapperjoe  [Team Member]
12/13/2005 6:27:30 AM EDT
i take it igf does this? price ? (legal paperwork was a given, didn't mean to imply a hack job!)
faldoc  [Member]
12/13/2005 11:17:36 AM EDT
m60joe at m60joe.com can cut, thread and adapt a barrel for you without taking the barrel off. He charges about $118 for the service. He does not do the remarking, or refinishing though.
CZ-75Jeff  [Member]
12/13/2005 12:52:38 PM EDT
By contrast:

Labor is typically $325 - $375 to remove a barrel and replace it.

A German MP5 barrel will cost $350 - $450.

Paddle mag, parts and labor typically go for $200 - $250.

Cost to restamp ~$125

Cost to refinish ~$200.

So, your options are ~1,200 for a complete SBR conversion, or ~$200 for a cut down barrel with adapter without a flapper mag release. Or, anywhere in between ala carte.

I highly recommend you get the flapper mag release!!!!!!

Yes, IGF can do it all, but he cannot cut and adapt the barrel without removing it, I don't think. I think there are only a few people who have the right jig.
chapperjoe  [Team Member]
12/13/2005 12:58:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CZ-75Jeff:
By contrast:

Labor is typically $325 - $375 to remove a barrel and replace it.

A German MP5 barrel will cost $350 - $450.

Paddle mag, parts and labor typically go for $200 - $250.

Cost to restamp ~$125

Cost to refinish ~$200.

So, your options are ~1,200 for a complete SBR conversion, or ~$200 for a cut down barrel with adapter without a flapper mag release. Or, anywhere in between ala carte.

I highly recommend you get the flapper mag release!!!!!!

Yes, IGF can do it all, but he cannot cut and adapt the barrel without removing it, I don't think. I think there are only a few people who have the right jig.



I'm thinking of just getting an HKDUDE fake suppressor. Though I do want a 'flapper'!
chapperjoe  [Team Member]
12/13/2005 12:59:25 PM EDT
oh and BTW, the '94's bunkmate got her final piece of gear in the mail today (the light):


AK_Mike  [Team Member]
12/13/2005 12:59:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By osprey21:

Originally Posted By Hunterex:

Originally Posted By osprey21:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/4_sale/hk53withbeta5uv1.jpg



not mine



Not yours, and not an Mp5 neither. HK53 in .223. Nice lookin' rig though.


sometimes I get just excited....

THIS is the pic I intended to post.

www.opticstalk.com/photoserver/images/photos/179.jpg



OT but I must ask, with the PDW length, why have a full stock instead of an A1 cap or folder? How does one hold the front grip with the drum mag in place (I tend to think it's there only for picture purposes)?
vandal  [Team Member]
12/15/2005 2:24:38 PM EDT

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