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Cleaning and maintenance routines? SAGE M1A/M14
2/16/2012 2:00:32 PM
1. I have a NM and a gunsmith did the install, how often or ever do I pull the action and barrel out of chassis?
2. Anyone use the Otis cleaning system, does it work well?
3. What are your routines? I'd like to know all of your "whats and whens and " how oftens" especially with the rifles with the SAGE chassis. I am accustomed to maint routines from when i was in the Navy and I want to make one for my very expensive rifle.
Thanks to all in advance,
Mike
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2. Anyone use the Otis cleaning system, does it work well?
3. What are your routines? I'd like to know all of your "whats and whens and " how oftens" especially with the rifles with the SAGE chassis. I am accustomed to maint routines from when i was in the Navy and I want to make one for my very expensive rifle.
Thanks to all in advance,
Mike
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2/16/2012 6:29:38 PM
I've had my NM since 1987.
Just running a ramrod with Hoppes down the bore, same with taking apart and cleaning the gas piston, and quick tooth-brushing around the chamber area works just fine.
I've taken it down probably 20 times since new with no problems.
Haven't damaged the glass-bedding at all.
It's a tough battle-proven design.
Have fun with it!
Just running a ramrod with Hoppes down the bore, same with taking apart and cleaning the gas piston, and quick tooth-brushing around the chamber area works just fine.
I've taken it down probably 20 times since new with no problems.
Haven't damaged the glass-bedding at all.
It's a tough battle-proven design.
Have fun with it!
2/17/2012 4:27:12 PM
I have a sage ebr and only clean it about every 500 rds. take extra care with the gas system. Make sure you have the drills so you can get all the carbon out. You don't want to increase port pressure and start messing things up.
2/17/2012 9:58:09 PM
I forgot to mention that OTIS stinks. Buy a rod, brush, jag, patches, grease, oil, patches, chamber brush and tooth brush. This is what you need for proper cleaning.
2/18/2012 4:24:36 AM
When you bugger the cheapo dome head screws that secure the action to the stock, and you probably will,
Go buy some good cap screws and fit them up as replacements.
Best upgrade you will ever make to the stock system!
I am only shooting about 300 to 400 rounds a year out of this rifle now due to rising cost of good quality ammo and remove action from stock for full cleaning once per year.
Get a ratchet chamber brush and use it!
The Otis or Dewey Kit will work fine for general cleaning.
Go buy some good cap screws and fit them up as replacements.
Best upgrade you will ever make to the stock system!
I am only shooting about 300 to 400 rounds a year out of this rifle now due to rising cost of good quality ammo and remove action from stock for full cleaning once per year.
Get a ratchet chamber brush and use it!
The Otis or Dewey Kit will work fine for general cleaning.
2/18/2012 4:53:40 PM
Pull the action out of the stock once a year at the end of season for full cleaning, and re-bed the action to the stock before putting it back in.
The action bedded to the stock perfectly is the key to a NM rifle (to make it groups sub MOA), so you never want to pull the action out of the receiver unless you have to repair something, and then you still going to freshen the glass bedding before you put it back in.
So on that note, not in your best interest to shoot crap ammo through the rig that would require the action to be pulled in the first place.
As for it you are going to rip the action out of the stock over and over again, you just wasted your money on a NM rifle.
And for the record, if this is a NM rifle, should be able to print sub MOA all day long with the correct load.
The action bedded to the stock perfectly is the key to a NM rifle (to make it groups sub MOA), so you never want to pull the action out of the receiver unless you have to repair something, and then you still going to freshen the glass bedding before you put it back in.
So on that note, not in your best interest to shoot crap ammo through the rig that would require the action to be pulled in the first place.
As for it you are going to rip the action out of the stock over and over again, you just wasted your money on a NM rifle.
And for the record, if this is a NM rifle, should be able to print sub MOA all day long with the correct load.
2/18/2012 11:50:46 PM
I do a complete tare down once a year and at that time I use a rod, brush, etc. Other than that I'm pulling a boresnake through several times after each range session.
