Looking at an M1 Carbine, question
Hey guys, I'm looking at trading a rifle of mine for an M1 carbine, it's a Plainfield I think he said.
Anyway, it has a metal vented top handgaurd and no bayo lug. What I was wanting to know is how hard is it going to be to replace the top handgaurd with a nice wooden one and also can I put one of those bayo lug / (type 3) bands I believe it's called on there? How hard would that be to do?
thanks!
Mitchell
Replacing the handguard takes about one minute. Move the front band forward, take off the old handguard, instal new handgaurd, move band back and tighten screw.
To replace the front band with one that has a bayonet lug, you have to remove the front sight. Which involves punching out the pin, tap the front sight off, remove the front sight key. Slide the barrel band off, slide on new one, and install front sight.
oh okay, I've heard that you have to do match work for these m1's b/c they were all so different???
and the front sight base can be done with hand tools? I got punches etc
the sight I take it is keyed into the barrel and goes back in the exact place it was?
I'd pass on the plainfield, parts dont all interchange with G.I. and have heard of failres of the Oprod because of the full cutout for the bolt lug
well do you think it's a good trade for a GP 63 wasr ak?
I've been wanting an M1 carbine and if I can put the bayo lug and military style stock on it and one of those 2 mag pouches and call it a day I'm good.
What kind of problems do they have??? and what would be different from the GI?
Old out for a genuine gi carbine! Quality control and parts interchangeability issues are rampant with commercial carbines.
Originally Posted By captain127:
Old out for a genuine gi carbine! Quality control and parts interchangeability issues are rampant with commercial carbines.
Yeah but really wont know till I get this one though correct. I'm hoping it will be fine but I'm just not gonna spend a grand or more on a .30 carbine. Hell I'm not gonna spend over a grand on any gun lol. I'd like to make a good swap for my ak but if this is the best I'll get for that then so be it.
How can I tell if it's poor quality control or can't use different parts?
The Plainfields will accept USGI parts. In fact most of the parts used to assemble them were surplus USGI parts. I have built 5 carbines from Plainfield receivers purchased from CMP. The only non-USGI parts on the my carbines are the barrels (only because I couldn't find any reasonable priced new USGI) and stocks. All have new Underwood round bolts, late rear sights, and type III barrel bands (with bayonet lug). All function perfectly and shoot fine. If the Plainfield has not been abused it should be fine.
Bill
cool cool
Surprised you got plainfields from cmp? They were never gov issue and the cmp deals with gov issue stuff so more info on that?
When I say hold out for a gi with patience and luck you can find one for a reasonable price- may take a year or two
Originally Posted By HeadHunter_66:
The Plainfields will accept USGI parts. In fact most of the parts used to assemble them were surplus USGI parts. I have built 5 carbines from Plainfield receivers purchased from CMP. The only non-USGI parts on the my carbines are the barrels (only because I couldn't find any reasonable priced new USGI) and stocks. All have new Underwood round bolts, late rear sights, and type III barrel bands (with bayonet lug). All function perfectly and shoot fine. If the Plainfield has not been abused it should be fine.
Bill
You got Plainfield recievers from CMP?
And the barrels are NOT the only non-USGI parts on those 5 carbines you built. The recievers are non-USGI.
I had one. It was the paratrooper model with the sliding wire stock. It never malfunctioned. Traded it for an M96 Swedish Mauser when I finally found a GI Carbine at a decent price. Mine had a bayonet lug.
I have had a Plainfield. Should be able to change between it and USGI as Plainfield used some GI parts. or at least the earlier ones did.
I don'tn think mine had any or if it did maybe a part or 2. Good gun.
Think IverJohnson bought them out and then started haveing a few problems if my memory serves me right.
Stay away fron Universal though.
I would trade a WASR for a carbine in a heartbeat.
I bought an old M1 carbine that I needed to replace a damaged type 3 front band and had to buy a front sight puller to remove the carbine sight and a tube with a guide pin to re-install it after the front band was changed out. I am not the handiest guy in the world and didn't want to ding things up so that is why I got the puller and re-installer. Please be sure that the carbine you are wanting to buy is a Plainfield carbine and not a Universal carbine. I had a Plainfield years ago and it was the nicest little rifle I ever shot –– needed money so I sold it like a fool.
yeah he told me it was a plainfield but didn't know when it was built but it said plainfield on it.
I've been reading that the universals have problems
A Plainfield carbine was my first centerfire rifle i bought back in the 70's. I shot the shit out of the thing. Probably 7000 rounds. Only issue was a broken extractor. I eventually got rid of it but it was a good shooter for me. I bought it at a K Mart
nevermind, sale fell through. Oh well. Maybe I'll find a nice GI one.
Originally Posted By LineDoggie:
I'd pass on the plainfield, parts dont all interchange with G.I. and have heard of failres of the Oprod because of the full cutout for the bolt lug
You're thinking Universal. Plainfields were one of the better commercial clones.
