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spankybear  [Team Member]
1/10/2012 2:29:02 PM
The best job at machining the M14/M1A receiver. In other words who has the closest to USGI (short of being a machine gun) dimensions? Past or present? I don't care it the receiver is cast or forged or billet
Poon  [Member]
1/10/2012 2:31:01 PM
Norinco & Poly Tech
jdhill  [Team Member]
1/10/2012 2:37:28 PM
SEI or LRB
spankybear  [Team Member]
1/10/2012 2:46:31 PM
Originally Posted By jdhill:
SEI or LRB


I have to say NOT lrb

Link

and for the price you have to pay... No thanks
Different  [Member]
1/10/2012 3:04:26 PM
Originally Posted By spankybear:
The best job at machining the M14/M1A receiver. In other words who has the closest to USGI (short of being a machine gun) dimensions? Past or present? I don't care it the receiver is cast or forged or billet


Overall

1. Smith Enterprise, Inc. select fire capable M-14 receivers
2. Springfield Armory, Inc. (Valley Ordnance Co.) select fire capable M1A receivers

Semi-automatic Only

Smith Enterprise, Inc. pre-2000 investment cast M-14 or M-14 NM receivers

Yes, I know SEI made billet machined receivers before 2000. As far as the OP's question is concerned, the investment cast SEI receivers are closer to USGI dimension because the receiver heel corners are not "squared off" like the billet machined receivers.

spankybear  [Team Member]
1/11/2012 2:17:41 PM
DO you have the Serial number range for the SEI ?
Different  [Member]
1/11/2012 9:29:16 PM
Originally Posted By spankybear:
DO you have the Serial number range for the SEI ?


I assume you're wanting the serial number range and/or identifying information for the pre-2000 investment cast Smith Enterprise, Inc. M-14 and M-14 NM receivers. Is that correct? I want to provide what you're after instead of too much information.
Tim_the_enchanter  [Team Member]
1/11/2012 10:57:45 PM
Originally Posted By Poon:
Norinco & Poly Tech



This.
spankybear  [Team Member]
1/12/2012 2:53:50 AM
Originally Posted By Different:
Originally Posted By spankybear:
DO you have the Serial number range for the SEI ?


I assume you're wanting the serial number range and/or identifying information for the pre-2000 investment cast Smith Enterprise, Inc. M-14 and M-14 NM receivers. Is that correct? I want to provide what you're after instead of too much information.


Yes... What range is the pre-2000 cast SEI receivers.

How close Chinese ones machined? Looks like a couple of people have said they are close.

And thanks for the info!
Different  [Member]
1/12/2012 10:58:49 AM
Originally Posted By spankybear:
The best job at machining the M14/M1A receiver. In other words who has the closest to USGI (short of being a machine gun) dimensions? Past or present? I don't care it the receiver is cast or forged or billet


The answer to this question, for semi-automatic only receivers, is Smith Enterprise, Inc. M-14 and M-14 NM investment cast receivers under serial number 001900. Those receivers were manufactured about 1986. The heel will have rounded, not squared, corners and NOT be marked FORGED USA on the operating rod rail. There was a run of billet machined receivers from about serial number 001915 to 002010 or so. After that, the serial numbers are for investment cast receivers. Investment cast receivers over serial number 002010 were given additional finish machining to enhance the aesethetic appeal. However, USGI M14 receivers did not receive such finish work. It's not uncommon to see milling marks on USGI receivers.

State Arsenal 356 produced semi-automatic only M14 receivers have the threaded hole in the barrel ring. That does not affect function or parts interchangeability but it is an obvious difference from the USGI receiver. These receivers were machined to accommodate Chinese bolts, not USGI dimension bolts. That's a significant difference as compared to the U. S. commercial receivers that are very close clones of USGI M14 receivers.



tankdriver  [Team Member]
1/12/2012 3:56:07 PM
Originally Posted By Tim_the_enchanter:
Originally Posted By Poon:
Norinco & Poly Tech



This.


Argee

I've got 2. 1 full Norinco M14s. The other is just a Noinco receiver the rest of it is TRW NM parts except the stock.
madcratebuilder  [Member]
1/13/2012 9:38:52 AM
Originally Posted By Different:
Originally Posted By spankybear:
The best job at machining the M14/M1A receiver. In other words who has the closest to USGI (short of being a machine gun) dimensions? Past or present? I don't care it the receiver is cast or forged or billet


The answer to this question, for semi-automatic only receivers, is Smith Enterprise, Inc. M-14 and M-14 NM investment cast receivers under serial number 001900. Those receivers were manufactured about 1986. The heel will have rounded, not squared, corners and NOT be marked FORGED USA on the operating rod rail. There was a run of billet machined receivers from about serial number 001915 to 002010 or so. After that, the serial numbers are for investment cast receivers. Investment cast receivers over serial number 002010 were given additional finish machining to enhance the aesethetic appeal. However, USGI M14 receivers did not receive such finish work. It's not uncommon to see milling marks on USGI receivers.

State Arsenal 356 produced semi-automatic only M14 receivers have the threaded hole in the barrel ring. That does not affect function or parts interchangeability but it is an obvious difference from the USGI receiver. These receivers were machined to accommodate Chinese bolts, not USGI dimension bolts. That's a significant difference as compared to the U. S. commercial receivers that are very close clones of USGI M14 receivers.


This!

Ask any of the well known M14 gun plumbers. They well tell you the same thing.





spankybear  [Team Member]
1/13/2012 1:28:27 PM
Originally Posted By Different:



Thank you... Going to keep an eye out for and of them SEIs now.

Thanks again!