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D_Baum  [Team Member]
12/2/2011 11:56:28 PM
For Sale is a non-import 1944 Springfield M-1 Garand in 30-06. Barrel is SA dated 1946. I got this rifle from DCM. Comes with the original box from DCM I got it in, the sling it came with and an empty shell casing that also came in the box with the rifle.

Tell me what you know about this rifle. What is DCM and non-import mean? I also did a quick seiral number check and found 1942 not 1944. (serial number 478,XXX)

Oh yeah the rifle in question is only $825.00.
panzersergeant  [Life Member]
12/3/2011 5:50:36 AM
Originally Posted By D_Baum:
For Sale is a non-import 1944 Springfield M-1 Garand in 30-06. Barrel is SA dated 1946. I got this rifle from DCM. Comes with the original box from DCM I got it in, the sling it came with and an empty shell casing that also came in the box with the rifle.

Tell me what you know about this rifle. What is DCM and non-import mean? I also did a quick seiral number check and found 1942 not 1944. (serial number 478,XXX)

Oh yeah the rifle in question is only $825.00.


If you got this rifle from DCM why are your asking us what DCM is?

DCM stands for Department of Civilian Marksmkanship. Now it is called CMP for Civlian Marksmanship Program.

Non-import means it doesn't have a stamp in the side of the barrel. It did not come back from a foreign country through a commercial distributor. A non-import is worth more than an import marked rifle.
RWC57  [Team Member]
12/3/2011 7:43:23 AM
Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
Originally Posted By D_Baum:
For Sale is a non-import 1944 Springfield M-1 Garand in 30-06. Barrel is SA dated 1946. I got this rifle from DCM. Comes with the original box from DCM I got it in, the sling it came with and an empty shell casing that also came in the box with the rifle.

Tell me what you know about this rifle. What is DCM and non-import mean? I also did a quick seiral number check and found 1942 not 1944. (serial number 478,XXX)

Oh yeah the rifle in question is only $825.00.


If you got this rifle from DCM why are your asking us what DCM is?

DCM stands for Department of Civilian Marksmkanship. Now it is called CMP for Civlian Marksmanship Program.

Non-import means it doesn't have a stamp in the side of the barrel. It did not come back from a foreign country through a commercial distributor. A non-import is worth more than an import marked rifle.



i think he is quoting the Ad
M1G  [Team Member]
12/3/2011 8:30:55 AM
Originally Posted By D_Baum:
For Sale is a non-import 1944 Springfield M-1 Garand in 30-06. Barrel is SA dated 1946. I got this rifle from DCM. Comes with the original box from DCM I got it in, the sling it came with and an empty shell casing that also came in the box with the rifle.

Tell me what you know about this rifle. What is DCM and non-import mean? I also did a quick seiral number check and found 1942 not 1944. (serial number 478,XXX)

Oh yeah the rifle in question is only $825.00.


Only $825.00 ? Not a screaming deal by any means unless it has alot of early parts on it
D_Baum  [Team Member]
12/3/2011 2:09:32 PM
Originally Posted By RWC57:
Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
Originally Posted By D_Baum:
For Sale is a non-import 1944 Springfield M-1 Garand in 30-06. Barrel is SA dated 1946. I got this rifle from DCM. Comes with the original box from DCM I got it in, the sling it came with and an empty shell casing that also came in the box with the rifle.

Tell me what you know about this rifle. What is DCM and non-import mean? I also did a quick seiral number check and found 1942 not 1944. (serial number 478,XXX)

Oh yeah the rifle in question is only $825.00.


If you got this rifle from DCM why are your asking us what DCM is?

DCM stands for Department of Civilian Marksmkanship. Now it is called CMP for Civlian Marksmanship Program.

Non-import means it doesn't have a stamp in the side of the barrel. It did not come back from a foreign country through a commercial distributor. A non-import is worth more than an import marked rifle.



i think he is quoting the Ad


Thanks for the information and I was quoting the ad.

Originally Posted By M1G:
Originally Posted By D_Baum:
For Sale is a non-import 1944 Springfield M-1 Garand in 30-06. Barrel is SA dated 1946. I got this rifle from DCM. Comes with the original box from DCM I got it in, the sling it came with and an empty shell casing that also came in the box with the rifle.

Tell me what you know about this rifle. What is DCM and non-import mean? I also did a quick seiral number check and found 1942 not 1944. (serial number 478,XXX)

Oh yeah the rifle in question is only $825.00.


Only $825.00 ? Not a screaming deal by any means unless it has alot of early parts on it


Thanks.
fire4fx  [Member]
12/3/2011 3:26:36 PM
Sounds like a 'SHM' rifle. They have their own little niche. IIRC, WWII guns reworked during '46-'47

I've got a couple. I like them!!!
madcratebuilder  [Member]
12/4/2011 9:42:47 AM
Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
Originally Posted By D_Baum:
For Sale is a non-import 1944 Springfield M-1 Garand in 30-06. Barrel is SA dated 1946. I got this rifle from DCM. Comes with the original box from DCM I got it in, the sling it came with and an empty shell casing that also came in the box with the rifle.

Tell me what you know about this rifle. What is DCM and non-import mean? I also did a quick seiral number check and found 1942 not 1944. (serial number 478,XXX)

Oh yeah the rifle in question is only $825.00.


If you got this rifle from DCM why are your asking us what DCM is?

DCM stands for Department of Civilian Marksmkanship. Now it is called CMP for Civlian Marksmanship Program.

Non-import means it doesn't have a stamp in the side of the barrel. It did not come back from a foreign country through a commercial distributor. A non-import is worth more than an import marked rifle.




CMP imports Garands and they exempt from import marking.
bigbore  [Industry Partner]
12/4/2011 10:14:28 AM
Originally Posted By fire4fx:
Sounds like a 'SHM' rifle. They have their own little niche. IIRC, WWII guns reworked during '46-'47

I've got a couple. I like them!!!


An in the box actual "DCM" receipt SHM rebuild is easily worth the asking price - "IF" is has the correctly stamped stock.
panzersergeant  [Life Member]
12/4/2011 10:17:08 AM
Originally Posted By madcratebuilder:
CMP imports Garands and they exempt from import marking.


CMP doesn't "import" anything. They get their weapons from the US Army. The rifles are "repatriated" from countries that benefited from American MAP (Military Assistance Program).

There are still tens of thousands of Garands and Carbines in foreign countries, particularly Iran.
D_Baum  [Team Member]
12/11/2011 9:25:12 AM
Update; Sold to someone before me. I'll keep looking.
Jimi  [Member]
12/13/2011 12:29:18 PM
Yes I love the 47 rebuilds! I have one I got from the CMP that gauged zero both ends!!!The park is 99% even had the correctly marked gas cyl double punch mark!!Just wish it had shm stk.
makintrax73  [Member]
12/13/2011 5:13:44 PM
Originally Posted By D_Baum:
Update; Sold to someone before me. I'll keep looking.


CMP rifle sales <末末- collecting the documentation, sending in the documentation, getting your DBU (don't bother us) e-mail, and waiting (unpatiently) for your rifle to be delivered to your front door is all a right of a passage for any self respecting firearms owner. You're likely to get a better deal that you will get on the street also, although they are currently out of stock on service grades. That should change over next few months, or you could just spend the $900 on a "special" grade.

ETA: The service grade rifles are generally quite nice, and good shooters, unless you are looking for something very particular.
shack357  [Team Member]
12/13/2011 9:25:19 PM
Originally Posted By makintrax73:
Originally Posted By D_Baum:
Update; Sold to someone before me. I'll keep looking.


CMP rifle sales <末末- collecting the documentation, sending in the documentation, getting your DBU (don't bother us) e-mail, and waiting (unpatiently) for your rifle to be delivered to your front door is all a right of a passage for any self respecting firearms owner. You're likely to get a better deal that you will get on the street also, although they are currently out of stock on service grades. That should change over next few months, or you could just spend the $900 on a "special" grade.

ETA: The service grade rifles are generally quite nice, and good shooters, unless you are looking for something very particular.


Are the rifles that would be rack grade being stripped and their receivers used for special grade builds? I can't remember the last time I saw rack grade listed for sale. Sure they're beat up, but mine(bought locally) went through CMP in 2007 as a Greek rack grade, and wear and all is a good shooter(even though I've had it refinished and bought a new stock).
makintrax73  [Member]
12/13/2011 10:31:49 PM
Originally Posted By shack357:
Originally Posted By makintrax73:
Originally Posted By D_Baum:
Update; Sold to someone before me. I'll keep looking.


CMP rifle sales <末末- collecting the documentation, sending in the documentation, getting your DBU (don't bother us) e-mail, and waiting (unpatiently) for your rifle to be delivered to your front door is all a right of a passage for any self respecting firearms owner. You're likely to get a better deal that you will get on the street also, although they are currently out of stock on service grades. That should change over next few months, or you could just spend the $900 on a "special" grade.

ETA: The service grade rifles are generally quite nice, and good shooters, unless you are looking for something very particular.


Are the rifles that would be rack grade being stripped and their receivers used for special grade builds? I can't remember the last time I saw rack grade listed for sale. Sure they're beat up, but mine(bought locally) went through CMP in 2007 as a Greek rack grade, and wear and all is a good shooter(even though I've had it refinished and bought a new stock).


I'm not sure. I don't remember seeing them ever listed either. I think what they list mostly depends on what condition they are received in, but I guess it's possible that they decided there was more money in breaking down rack grade rifles for parts.
captain127  [Member]
12/17/2011 8:19:55 AM
They grade them as they come in. I am sure at times they tear stuff down and rebuild it but this would not be routine. Best way to buy an m1 is a visit to the cmp store at perry or Anniston and hand pick your own. Will always be the best deal going.