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 Accuracy at distance, a couple questions.
Gulbrandr2  [Team Member]
1/11/2011 12:39:18 AM
I'm trying to decide between a standard M1A or a National Match M1A.

I'll be using it for targets between 0-600 meters, and was wondering if the heavier barrel really makes a difference within those ranges?

Will a synthetic stock fit on an NM rifle? I'm not too fond of wood.

Thanks in advance.
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slama682  [Member]
1/11/2011 3:39:12 AM
A synthetic stock should fit without a problem as long as the NM only has the standard two lugs on the receiver. IIRC only the Super Match has the four lugged receiver, but I could be wrong.

Of course, even if it is the four-lugged receiver, then I'm certain that someone is making synthetic stocks for it, like McMillian for example, but it may cost a whole lot more.
Harlikwin  [Team Member]
1/11/2011 1:07:53 PM
For regular shilutte targets the standard should work ok at those ranges. The NM will be more accurate if you are match shooting.
m1ajunkie  [Member]
1/12/2011 9:48:35 AM
I have shot my standard with HR chromelined barrel to 650 yards using M118LR ammo. I was shooting at steel full size torso silouettes and had no trouble making hits with the iron sights. This was both off the bench to get a zero and then prone with a sling.

For what I was doing I didn't see any need for the NM, if I was heating the barrel up more then I could see the need for the thicker barrel.


fefu23  [Member]
1/12/2011 10:41:31 AM
you could split the difference and get a "loaded"

If not, I say get the NM.


Gulbrandr2  [Team Member]
1/12/2011 11:15:16 AM
Originally Posted By fefu23:
you could split the difference and get a "loaded"

If not, I say get the NM.




The loaded is basically a standard with match barrel and trigger? That's perfect.
Torment  [Member]
1/13/2011 4:09:01 AM
Pretty pointless having a non accurized rifle, with mediocre NM barrel, non hooded sight, and lack luster trigger buying a loaded. Better off getting the NM or better yet the supermatch for an out of the box match rifle. Though if your looking for a project? Buying a used std with some GI parts, stripping it, re barreling it, and accurizing it right can be rewarding. All the best parts back into it with labor, costs about the same as the super, but you have a better rifle. Steel bed for example, if you used it, is far better than the factory glass bedding.

I built my version of the M21 off a loaded. I had it already, but if I didn't it would have been more cost effective using a std for the build.
builttoughf250  [Team Member]
1/13/2011 1:56:32 PM
ive gotten really good accuracy out of the HR chrome lined USGI barrels.

of 3 rifles ive owned, 2 "loaded models" and a Fulton- ( ETA i use to own a Socom16 too, i wish i still owned it knowing what i know now. )

my BIGGEST problem, pain in the ass, and nightmare was the stock bedding itself. you couldnt tell the stock was loose- but once i glass bed the stock on my Fulton and reamed out the area for the gas cylinder, there were no more random flyers and my groups tightened up very nice.

as for the trigger- i think you can send it to Springfield and have them "tune it" to a lighter, smoother setting.
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