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Schedule A Property Confusion
2/12/2012 9:30:36 PM
I plan on listing my lower receiver that I'm going to have SBRd on my Schedule A. Since it is not a NFA item (yet), is it OK to list it? I'm just wanting to show my ownership of the lower receiver in the Trust. I know the Trust cannot take possession of the NFA item until my Form 1 is approved, but my lower receiver is not currently a NFA item....this is why I'm thinking it's OK to list my lower. I've read of people listing a dollar bill with the serial number in Schedule A. Why not just list the lower that's going to be SBRd....or does it even matter?
I've also read that once I get my Form 1 approved, I would amend my Schedule A to "change" my lower receiver from a Title 1 item to a NFA item. What does this mean/how do I do it and do I need to notify the ATF when I amend my Schedule A?
I've also read that once I get my Form 1 approved, I would amend my Schedule A to "change" my lower receiver from a Title 1 item to a NFA item. What does this mean/how do I do it and do I need to notify the ATF when I amend my Schedule A?
2/12/2012 11:22:54 PM
In texas your trust is suppose to be self supporting or so i was told
I put a $2 bill just in case in mine
The second part i cant help u with.. i added my suppressor to mine today
Just typed out who made it what it was and ser # but that maynot be right
Only been doing the trust stuff. A short time now since NObody will sign the paperwork here
I put a $2 bill just in case in mine
The second part i cant help u with.. i added my suppressor to mine today
Just typed out who made it what it was and ser # but that maynot be right
Only been doing the trust stuff. A short time now since NObody will sign the paperwork here
2/12/2012 11:37:23 PM
Do it either way. List it as a rifle now, and SBR later... or just wait and list it after the stamp comes back.
In fact, I bet you could list it as a "Colt Rifle, serial number XYZ123" and just leave it that way after it is SBRed. I don't think the BATFE can dictate how you describe your items on your trust's schedule A.
In fact, I bet you could list it as a "Colt Rifle, serial number XYZ123" and just leave it that way after it is SBRed. I don't think the BATFE can dictate how you describe your items on your trust's schedule A.
2/12/2012 11:45:16 PM
Just list the important information on the rifle in your schedule a (ie: Manufacturer, MFG city/state, Model, S/N)
I've done 6 SBR's this way. All were listed in the trust's property when I sent the Form 1's in
you don't have to change your title 1 lower into an NFA item in your schedule A. I've never heard of that.
SBR is a configuration of a firearm, NOT a type of firearm. if you separate the short barrel from the rifle or replace it with a 16"+ barrel, it is no longer an SBR and can be transported or sold as a title 1 firearm.
stop over-complicating the process
I've done 6 SBR's this way. All were listed in the trust's property when I sent the Form 1's in
you don't have to change your title 1 lower into an NFA item in your schedule A. I've never heard of that.
SBR is a configuration of a firearm, NOT a type of firearm. if you separate the short barrel from the rifle or replace it with a 16"+ barrel, it is no longer an SBR and can be transported or sold as a title 1 firearm.
stop over-complicating the process
2/13/2012 12:00:49 AM
Would listing your suppressor in the schedule a be done in the same way as a rifle
Sorry not trying to hyjack this
Sorry not trying to hyjack this
2/13/2012 12:51:39 AM
Originally Posted By KingIX:
Would listing your suppressor in the schedule a be done in the same way as a rifle
Sorry not trying to hyjack this
Would listing your suppressor in the schedule a be done in the same way as a rifle
Sorry not trying to hyjack this
I believe if its on a Form 4 you don't list it until its been approved. Some say with the SBR since you have it in your possession already being a Form 1 you list those.
2/13/2012 1:00:17 AM
Originally Posted By thefreshman991:
I believe if its on a Form 4 you don't list it until its been approved. Some say with the SBR since you have it in your possession already being a Form 1 you list those.
Originally Posted By KingIX:
Would listing your suppressor in the schedule a be done in the same way as a rifle
Sorry not trying to hyjack this
Would listing your suppressor in the schedule a be done in the same way as a rifle
Sorry not trying to hyjack this
I believe if its on a Form 4 you don't list it until its been approved. Some say with the SBR since you have it in your possession already being a Form 1 you list those.
Correct... but once its approved can it be added how the info is on the form 4
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Or is there more to it
2/13/2012 9:11:12 AM
Originally Posted By hellbound:
Just list the important information on the rifle in your schedule a (ie: Manufacturer, MFG city/state, Model, S/N)
I've done 6 SBR's this way. All were listed in the trust's property when I sent the Form 1's in
you don't have to change your title 1 lower into an NFA item in your schedule A. I've never heard of that.
SBR is a configuration of a firearm, NOT a type of firearm. if you separate the short barrel from the rifle or replace it with a 16"+ barrel, it is no longer an SBR and can be transported or sold as a title 1 firearm.
stop over-complicating the process
Just list the important information on the rifle in your schedule a (ie: Manufacturer, MFG city/state, Model, S/N)
I've done 6 SBR's this way. All were listed in the trust's property when I sent the Form 1's in
you don't have to change your title 1 lower into an NFA item in your schedule A. I've never heard of that.
SBR is a configuration of a firearm, NOT a type of firearm. if you separate the short barrel from the rifle or replace it with a 16"+ barrel, it is no longer an SBR and can be transported or sold as a title 1 firearm.
stop over-complicating the process
Interesting. Everyone seems to talk about amending Schedule A when Form 1 is approved.
2/13/2012 12:46:43 PM
Originally Posted By Aaron556:
Interesting. Everyone seems to talk about amending Schedule A when Form 1 is approved.
Originally Posted By hellbound:
Just list the important information on the rifle in your schedule a (ie: Manufacturer, MFG city/state, Model, S/N)
I've done 6 SBR's this way. All were listed in the trust's property when I sent the Form 1's in
you don't have to change your title 1 lower into an NFA item in your schedule A. I've never heard of that.
SBR is a configuration of a firearm, NOT a type of firearm. if you separate the short barrel from the rifle or replace it with a 16"+ barrel, it is no longer an SBR and can be transported or sold as a title 1 firearm.
stop over-complicating the process
Just list the important information on the rifle in your schedule a (ie: Manufacturer, MFG city/state, Model, S/N)
I've done 6 SBR's this way. All were listed in the trust's property when I sent the Form 1's in
you don't have to change your title 1 lower into an NFA item in your schedule A. I've never heard of that.
SBR is a configuration of a firearm, NOT a type of firearm. if you separate the short barrel from the rifle or replace it with a 16"+ barrel, it is no longer an SBR and can be transported or sold as a title 1 firearm.
stop over-complicating the process
Interesting. Everyone seems to talk about amending Schedule A when Form 1 is approved.
who is everyone? I've never heard of this. they could be talking about leaving the schedule A blank, and then adding the items TO the schedule A once it's approved.
but the trust does NOT care nor differentiate between title I and title II firearms
2/13/2012 3:37:13 PM
Originally Posted By Aaron556:
Interesting. Everyone seems to talk about amending Schedule A when Form 1 is approved.
Originally Posted By hellbound:
Just list the important information on the rifle in your schedule a (ie: Manufacturer, MFG city/state, Model, S/N)
I've done 6 SBR's this way. All were listed in the trust's property when I sent the Form 1's in
you don't have to change your title 1 lower into an NFA item in your schedule A. I've never heard of that.
SBR is a configuration of a firearm, NOT a type of firearm. if you separate the short barrel from the rifle or replace it with a 16"+ barrel, it is no longer an SBR and can be transported or sold as a title 1 firearm.
stop over-complicating the process
Just list the important information on the rifle in your schedule a (ie: Manufacturer, MFG city/state, Model, S/N)
I've done 6 SBR's this way. All were listed in the trust's property when I sent the Form 1's in
you don't have to change your title 1 lower into an NFA item in your schedule A. I've never heard of that.
SBR is a configuration of a firearm, NOT a type of firearm. if you separate the short barrel from the rifle or replace it with a 16"+ barrel, it is no longer an SBR and can be transported or sold as a title 1 firearm.
stop over-complicating the process
Interesting. Everyone seems to talk about amending Schedule A when Form 1 is approved.
People do amend Schedule As.
You add your suppressor to the schedule when the approval is complete....
You may wait to add a SBR to the schedule until the stamp comes back.
Or, simply list the rifle's basic info before approval and leave it at that.
2/13/2012 6:13:19 PM
Here's another question to make it even MORE complicated
What size envelope are you guys using to mail all the paperwork to the ATF? Seems like with all the documents folded a normal letter envelope (size #10) would be too thick.
Just curious.
What size envelope are you guys using to mail all the paperwork to the ATF? Seems like with all the documents folded a normal letter envelope (size #10) would be too thick.
Just curious.
2/13/2012 6:52:56 PM
Originally Posted By Aaron556:
Here's another question to make it even MORE complicated
What size envelope are you guys using to mail all the paperwork to the ATF? Seems like with all the documents folded a normal letter envelope (size #10) would be too thick.
Just curious.
Here's another question to make it even MORE complicated
What size envelope are you guys using to mail all the paperwork to the ATF? Seems like with all the documents folded a normal letter envelope (size #10) would be too thick.
Just curious.
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2/13/2012 6:56:04 PM
Originally Posted By Aaron556:
Here's another question to make it even MORE complicated
What size envelope are you guys using to mail all the paperwork to the ATF? Seems like with all the documents folded a normal letter envelope (size #10) would be too thick.
Just curious.
Here's another question to make it even MORE complicated
What size envelope are you guys using to mail all the paperwork to the ATF? Seems like with all the documents folded a normal letter envelope (size #10) would be too thick.
Just curious.
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