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I want to shoot to 1000 yards. some say my scope wont adjust to 1000yards??
5/19/2012 4:05:26 PM
bushnell 4200 elite series.
I was reading some say it will only adjust to 800 yards. So the question is, since iv never shot out to 1000 yards, is what do i need to adjust to for 1000 yards? This way i can just turn it and see if it goes to that number.
The range i go to will not allow you to "hold over" so thats why im concerned with this
I was reading some say it will only adjust to 800 yards. So the question is, since iv never shot out to 1000 yards, is what do i need to adjust to for 1000 yards? This way i can just turn it and see if it goes to that number.
The range i go to will not allow you to "hold over" so thats why im concerned with this
5/19/2012 4:19:07 PM
Originally Posted By JMichael99:
bushnell 4200 elite series.
I was reading some say it will only adjust to 800 yards. So the question is, since iv never shot out to 1000 yards, is what do i need to adjust to for 1000 yards? This way i can just turn it and see if it goes to that number.
The range i go to will not allow you to "hold over" so thats why im concerned with this
bushnell 4200 elite series.
I was reading some say it will only adjust to 800 yards. So the question is, since iv never shot out to 1000 yards, is what do i need to adjust to for 1000 yards? This way i can just turn it and see if it goes to that number.
The range i go to will not allow you to "hold over" so thats why im concerned with this
What? I have never heard of that and how would they know. Is your scope zeroed now? How much elevation do you have up? What ammo are you using? A 20moa rail is always a huge help if your scope limits you.
5/19/2012 5:02:54 PM
Originally Posted By JMichael99:
bushnell 4200 elite series.
I was reading some say it will only adjust to 800 yards. So the question is, since iv never shot out to 1000 yards, is what do i need to adjust to for 1000 yards? This way i can just turn it and see if it goes to that number.
The range i go to will not allow you to "hold over" so thats why im concerned with this
bushnell 4200 elite series.
I was reading some say it will only adjust to 800 yards. So the question is, since iv never shot out to 1000 yards, is what do i need to adjust to for 1000 yards? This way i can just turn it and see if it goes to that number.
The range i go to will not allow you to "hold over" so thats why im concerned with this
What caliber?
What muzzle velocity? (if you don't know, what barrel length?)
What ammo?
How much elevation do you have to move your POI UP from your zero?
I'll assume you have a .308 with a 100yd zero. With 175gr Siera match kings (FGMM), you'll probably need between 35 and 40 MOA to get to 1000.
What is your zero range?
5/19/2012 5:05:06 PM
You'll need between 30 and 40 minutes of elevation adjustment to get to 1000 yards, depending on the caliber you're shooting.
Worst case –– 40 minutes –– means your scope must have 80 minutes of elevation adjustment (40 above zero and 40 below) with the scope attached on the same axis as the bore of the gun.
Most 1000 yard shooters use a canted base to mount the scope on to get more up adjustment by sacrificing 'down' adjustment. i.e. zeroing the scope at a different reticle position.
If you have a limited adjutment scope, and mount it on a 20 moa canted base, you might not be able to zero the gun at close range.
We see lots of Nikon shooters at the 1000 yard who run out of adjustment at about 900 yards.
So, how many minutes of vertical adjustment does the reticle on your scope allow? Add a canted base to get to (appox) 40 minutes of elevation from a 200 yard zero and you'll be O.K.
Worst case –– 40 minutes –– means your scope must have 80 minutes of elevation adjustment (40 above zero and 40 below) with the scope attached on the same axis as the bore of the gun.
Most 1000 yard shooters use a canted base to mount the scope on to get more up adjustment by sacrificing 'down' adjustment. i.e. zeroing the scope at a different reticle position.
If you have a limited adjutment scope, and mount it on a 20 moa canted base, you might not be able to zero the gun at close range.
We see lots of Nikon shooters at the 1000 yard who run out of adjustment at about 900 yards.
So, how many minutes of vertical adjustment does the reticle on your scope allow? Add a canted base to get to (appox) 40 minutes of elevation from a 200 yard zero and you'll be O.K.
5/19/2012 6:01:08 PM
I too would just get a scope mount with built in MOA
but who has ever heard of a range that controls how you look through your scope?
if they are that bad, what else do they have problems with?
I guess I am lucky, I am usually bummed if anyone else is even at my range when I want to shoot
but who has ever heard of a range that controls how you look through your scope?
if they are that bad, what else do they have problems with?
I guess I am lucky, I am usually bummed if anyone else is even at my range when I want to shoot
5/20/2012 5:38:47 PM
Originally Posted By RugRat:
You'll need between 30 and 40 minutes of elevation adjustment to get to 1000 yards, depending on the caliber you're shooting.
Worst case –– 40 minutes –– means your scope must have 80 minutes of elevation adjustment (40 above zero and 40 below) with the scope attached on the same axis as the bore of the gun.
Most 1000 yard shooters use a canted base to mount the scope on to get more up adjustment by sacrificing 'down' adjustment. i.e. zeroing the scope at a different reticle position.
If you have a limited adjutment scope, and mount it on a 20 moa canted base, you might not be able to zero the gun at close range.
We see lots of Nikon shooters at the 1000 yard who run out of adjustment at about 900 yards.
So, how many minutes of vertical adjustment does the reticle on your scope allow? Add a canted base to get to (appox) 40 minutes of elevation from a 200 yard zero and you'll be O.K.
You'll need between 30 and 40 minutes of elevation adjustment to get to 1000 yards, depending on the caliber you're shooting.
Worst case –– 40 minutes –– means your scope must have 80 minutes of elevation adjustment (40 above zero and 40 below) with the scope attached on the same axis as the bore of the gun.
Most 1000 yard shooters use a canted base to mount the scope on to get more up adjustment by sacrificing 'down' adjustment. i.e. zeroing the scope at a different reticle position.
If you have a limited adjutment scope, and mount it on a 20 moa canted base, you might not be able to zero the gun at close range.
We see lots of Nikon shooters at the 1000 yard who run out of adjustment at about 900 yards.
So, how many minutes of vertical adjustment does the reticle on your scope allow? Add a canted base to get to (appox) 40 minutes of elevation from a 200 yard zero and you'll be O.K.
I'm at 46 with my current handloads
20 MOA base will help A TON
run a ballistic calc with your info and see how much adjustment you'll need - then just try to throw it on your scope
5/20/2012 10:08:16 PM
I use Bushnell 4200 on my AR10 with the intention to try 1000 yards in the future.
As others replied, I chose a base to give the needed extra adjustment, plus at 100 yards, I'm using the +2mil with the elevation knob on the scope adjusted very close to the top. Thus I will have plenty of range to adjust to 1000 yards, i.e. down 40+ moa. This margin can be used for the variation in ammo or even shooting at an angle (non horizontal).
I also reasoned that at close range of 300 yards or shorter, aiming with the +2mil dot is fine since the image is still large and clear.
As others replied, I chose a base to give the needed extra adjustment, plus at 100 yards, I'm using the +2mil with the elevation knob on the scope adjusted very close to the top. Thus I will have plenty of range to adjust to 1000 yards, i.e. down 40+ moa. This margin can be used for the variation in ammo or even shooting at an angle (non horizontal).
I also reasoned that at close range of 300 yards or shorter, aiming with the +2mil dot is fine since the image is still large and clear.
5/20/2012 11:07:30 PM
Originally Posted By JMichael99:
bushnell 4200 elite series.
I was reading some say it will only adjust to 800 yards. So the question is, since iv never shot out to 1000 yards, is what do i need to adjust to for 1000 yards? This way i can just turn it and see if it goes to that number.
The range i go to will not allow you to "hold over" so thats why im concerned with this
bushnell 4200 elite series.
I was reading some say it will only adjust to 800 yards. So the question is, since iv never shot out to 1000 yards, is what do i need to adjust to for 1000 yards? This way i can just turn it and see if it goes to that number.
The range i go to will not allow you to "hold over" so thats why im concerned with this
"I" can't tell you how far out you can dial with your current rig with the data you have provided.
What I would suggest is to bag/brace the rifle so it doesn't move. Look through the scope and start cranking the elevation turret. When the crosshairs STOP moving down note how many MOA or Mils your turret has moved by reading the markings.
Then bounce on over to JBM Ballistics and see if you can dial the dope for your load.
5/21/2012 10:02:06 AM
Originally Posted By JMichael99:
The range i go to will not allow you to "hold over" so thats why im concerned with this
The range i go to will not allow you to "hold over" so thats why im concerned with this
haha.. Sounds like Peacemaker to me, when I read that as well, i definitely thought it was odd.
5/21/2012 10:02:58 AM
Originally Posted By REL1203:
haha.. Sounds like Peacemaker to me, when I read that as well, i definitely thought it was odd.
Originally Posted By JMichael99:
The range i go to will not allow you to "hold over" so thats why im concerned with this
The range i go to will not allow you to "hold over" so thats why im concerned with this
haha.. Sounds like Peacemaker to me, when I read that as well, i definitely thought it was odd.
you would be correct
5/22/2012 10:47:06 AM
Originally Posted By LoneWolfUSMC:
"I" can't tell you how far out you can dial with your current rig with the data you have provided.
What I would suggest is to bag/brace the rifle so it doesn't move. Look through the scope and start cranking the elevation turret. When the crosshairs STOP moving down note how many MOA or Mils your turret has moved by reading the markings.
Then bounce on over to JBM Ballistics and see if you can dial the dope for your load.
Originally Posted By JMichael99:
bushnell 4200 elite series.
I was reading some say it will only adjust to 800 yards. So the question is, since iv never shot out to 1000 yards, is what do i need to adjust to for 1000 yards? This way i can just turn it and see if it goes to that number.
The range i go to will not allow you to "hold over" so thats why im concerned with this
bushnell 4200 elite series.
I was reading some say it will only adjust to 800 yards. So the question is, since iv never shot out to 1000 yards, is what do i need to adjust to for 1000 yards? This way i can just turn it and see if it goes to that number.
The range i go to will not allow you to "hold over" so thats why im concerned with this
"I" can't tell you how far out you can dial with your current rig with the data you have provided.
What I would suggest is to bag/brace the rifle so it doesn't move. Look through the scope and start cranking the elevation turret. When the crosshairs STOP moving down note how many MOA or Mils your turret has moved by reading the markings.
Then bounce on over to JBM Ballistics and see if you can dial the dope for your load.
LoneWolf- your method is interesting to me. Why lock the rifle down and watch for reticle movement? Do you encounter reticles that stop moving even when the turrets still have adjustment? If so what optics have you witnessed this on?
Thanks
5/22/2012 4:10:38 PM
Originally Posted By JMichael99:
bushnell 4200 elite series.
I was reading some say it will only adjust to 800 yards. So the question is, since iv never shot out to 1000 yards, is what do i need to adjust to for 1000 yards? This way i can just turn it and see if it goes to that number.
The range i go to will not allow you to "hold over" so thats why im concerned with this
bushnell 4200 elite series.
I was reading some say it will only adjust to 800 yards. So the question is, since iv never shot out to 1000 yards, is what do i need to adjust to for 1000 yards? This way i can just turn it and see if it goes to that number.
The range i go to will not allow you to "hold over" so thats why im concerned with this
You are lucky you have a 1000yd range. I envy you I have not do that length shot for awhile furthest I have found was 400m and that is cake walk for me.
If you have an iPhone they make a good app for a ballistic calculator called "ballistic" check it out it has a bullseye with darts in the middle for the icon.
Works really well before my grandpa died I have a place where I could shoot up to 1575m and I used it often.
5/23/2012 11:58:10 AM
Originally Posted By Jond81:
Do you encounter reticles that stop moving even when the turrets still have adjustment? If so what optics have you witnessed this on?
Do you encounter reticles that stop moving even when the turrets still have adjustment? If so what optics have you witnessed this on?
This is very common on mid to low end scopes across the brands. They are sometimes called "Phantom Clicks" because they still click, they just don't adjust any more.
5/23/2012 12:10:28 PM
Originally Posted By LoneWolfUSMC:
This is very common on mid to low end scopes across the brands. They are sometimes called "Phantom Clicks" because they still click, they just don't adjust any more.
Originally Posted By Jond81:
Do you encounter reticles that stop moving even when the turrets still have adjustment? If so what optics have you witnessed this on?
Do you encounter reticles that stop moving even when the turrets still have adjustment? If so what optics have you witnessed this on?
This is very common on mid to low end scopes across the brands. They are sometimes called "Phantom Clicks" because they still click, they just don't adjust any more.
Both of my Leupold VX3 6.5-20 scopes do this. I have about 2.5 minutes where the cross hairs don't move but the dial does.
