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Difference in ammo accuracy
12/11/2011 10:08:26 AM
Yesterday I fired my Marlin 336 in 30-30 at the range.
At 100 yards I was getting 2-2 1/2" groups with the 150gr Winchester ammo.
I switched over to the Remington 150gr ammo and my groups were 5"-6".
I went back to Winchester ammo and got 2" group.
Went back to Remington ammo and got 5" group.
Next I switched over to the Winchester 94 and same...
2-3" groups with Winchester ammo and 5-6" groups with Remington ammo.
These were all new ammo I had purchased in last 3-4 weeks and each brand were all from same lot.
Anybody else notice poor accuracy from recent Remington 30-30 ammo?
At 100 yards I was getting 2-2 1/2" groups with the 150gr Winchester ammo.
I switched over to the Remington 150gr ammo and my groups were 5"-6".
I went back to Winchester ammo and got 2" group.
Went back to Remington ammo and got 5" group.
Next I switched over to the Winchester 94 and same...
2-3" groups with Winchester ammo and 5-6" groups with Remington ammo.
These were all new ammo I had purchased in last 3-4 weeks and each brand were all from same lot.
Anybody else notice poor accuracy from recent Remington 30-30 ammo?
12/11/2011 10:18:10 AM
Could be an ammo issue I guess, that is a big difference. However, many guns do have a preference for a certain bullet weight/type. Yours just may not like Core Lokts.
12/11/2011 4:02:17 PM
I noticed that My Marlins tend to favor Handloads, Hornady, Winchester, Remington, then Ferderal in that order. Though I haven't tried Federal Fusion ammo yet,
My bolt action Savage likes Handloads, Federal, Winchester, and Remington in that order. Haven't tried any Hornady in the Savage.
My ARs tend to hate Remington ammo.
My Grandmother's Mauser in 7x57 loves Remington ammo.
I guess it just depends on the gun and load.
My bolt action Savage likes Handloads, Federal, Winchester, and Remington in that order. Haven't tried any Hornady in the Savage.
My ARs tend to hate Remington ammo.
My Grandmother's Mauser in 7x57 loves Remington ammo.
I guess it just depends on the gun and load.
12/18/2011 12:01:06 PM
Every rifle is different. My 1952 M94 in .30-30 likes Winchester, Federal, and Remington factory loads all equally––150 and 170 gr. varieties. Also, it has responded well to a variety of handload combinations. In that regard, I guess I'm lucky.
My Remington Model 760 in .30-06 is much more picky.
I'm sure your rifle is fine. Find a load that shoots well and stick with it.
My Remington Model 760 in .30-06 is much more picky.
I'm sure your rifle is fine. Find a load that shoots well and stick with it.
12/18/2011 3:31:01 PM
Originally Posted By StraightSix:
Every rifle is different. My 1952 M94 in .30-30 likes Winchester, Federal, and Remington factory loads all equally––150 and 170 gr. varieties. Also, it has responded well to a variety of handload combinations. In that regard, I guess I'm lucky.
My Remington Model 760 in .30-06 is much more picky.
I'm sure your rifle is fine. Find a load that shoots well and stick with it.
Every rifle is different. My 1952 M94 in .30-30 likes Winchester, Federal, and Remington factory loads all equally––150 and 170 gr. varieties. Also, it has responded well to a variety of handload combinations. In that regard, I guess I'm lucky.
My Remington Model 760 in .30-06 is much more picky.
I'm sure your rifle is fine. Find a load that shoots well and stick with it.
Mine too! What ammo have you had good luck with? Mine hates remington ammo in general, I have yet to try handloads for it.
12/18/2011 11:32:44 PM
Anything is possible. My 1/8 twist SS AR loves 55gr wolf...
So far all I have uses in my new 336 is lever evolution and it shoots less than 2" at 100.
So far all I have uses in my new 336 is lever evolution and it shoots less than 2" at 100.
12/21/2011 12:28:12 AM
Anybody else notice poor accuracy from recent Remington 30-30 ammo?
Barrel Harmonics, Pressures and Timing
That is the reason I started reloading; 3 inch 100 yard groups were not acceptable.
12/22/2011 12:23:07 AM
Originally Posted By The_Rifleman:
Barrel Harmonics, Pressures and Timing
That is the reason I started reloading; 3 inch 100 yard groups were not acceptable.
Anybody else notice poor accuracy from recent Remington 30-30 ammo?
Barrel Harmonics, Pressures and Timing
That is the reason I started reloading; 3 inch 100 yard groups were not acceptable.
Cool link!
12/22/2011 7:17:45 AM
My 30/30's prefer 170's
12/24/2011 8:54:44 PM
Remington is shit ammo. Fine for plinking, not worth a crap for precision. I put a new scope on a buddy's rifle and he left me some Remington CoreLokts to sight it in with. At 100 yards I could barely keep it on a full size Redfield target. Went and picked up some Federal Premiums (which is pretty much the only ammo I shoot when I don't shoot handloads) and I was covering 3 and 5 shot groups with a quarter.
I haven't ran any Remington through my new Marlin 1894ss .44 mag but I've seen similar results with Remington pistol ammo in my Dad's S&W .41 mag so I stay away from Remington.
I haven't ran any Remington through my new Marlin 1894ss .44 mag but I've seen similar results with Remington pistol ammo in my Dad's S&W .41 mag so I stay away from Remington.
12/26/2011 7:32:10 PM
my pre 64 win 94 prefers the 150 grain core lokt. It also has better terminal performance than the standard win or fed load in my opinion.
12/26/2011 7:50:41 PM
Beside everything else one of the things I found to make a huge difference in most guns is the quality of the bullet.
The discount lines packaged to be the cheap stuff is generally pretty poor. An example of this in pistol ammo is Winchester white box and Rem umc
In rifle the "premium" lines that have the better bullets are generally way better but you really need to shoot to find out.
Reloads using Sierra (my go to for accuracy) or most any of the brand name bullets will generally be better if the reloader does his part
I have some experience that shows the 30/30 is the single gun that most folks just shoot now and then and don't do a good job cleaning. I have grabbed
a gun or two at my club and did a serious cleaning with a heavy duty copper solvent (sweets 7.62) and was a hero for my efforts.
The discount lines packaged to be the cheap stuff is generally pretty poor. An example of this in pistol ammo is Winchester white box and Rem umc
In rifle the "premium" lines that have the better bullets are generally way better but you really need to shoot to find out.
Reloads using Sierra (my go to for accuracy) or most any of the brand name bullets will generally be better if the reloader does his part
I have some experience that shows the 30/30 is the single gun that most folks just shoot now and then and don't do a good job cleaning. I have grabbed
a gun or two at my club and did a serious cleaning with a heavy duty copper solvent (sweets 7.62) and was a hero for my efforts.
