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UBERTI 1873 Short Rifle
10/29/2011 1:18:48 AM
20" barrel
19" barrel
18" barrel
What do you guys think about these rifles? I am wanting one in 357. Do the octagonal barrels make the rifle too heavy or less handy?
10/29/2011 9:46:21 AM
Well made replicas. Octagons are usually heavier, but as to whether they feel barrel heavy is subjective. If going with the .357, take the 18" barrel. You'll get as much as you can get from the cartridge, so unless you want a slightly longer sight radius, you won't gain anything. Plus, the shorter barrels seem (for me) to handle better. Now, if you are like me, and sometimes like to shoot off sticks, and don't mind carrying the weight, the longer barrel does have a certain "cool" factor.
10/29/2011 10:30:52 AM
Don't forget their beautiful Special Sporting rifle. It comes in a 20" version too, however, I think that the 24" version is absolutely beautiful.
Originally Posted By jeepnik:
This isn't necessarily true. My Rossi 24" 357mag rifle produces about 60fps faster velocities than does my 20" Rossi 357mag carbine.
Originally Posted By jeepnik:
Well made replicas. Octagons are usually heavier, but as to whether
they feel barrel heavy is subjective. If going with the .357, take the
18" barrel. You'll get as much as you can get from the cartridge, so
unless you want a slightly longer sight radius, you won't gain anything.
Plus, the shorter barrels seem (for me) to handle better. Now, if you
are like me, and sometimes like to shoot off sticks, and don't mind
carrying the weight, the longer barrel does have a certain "cool"
factor.
This isn't necessarily true. My Rossi 24" 357mag rifle produces about 60fps faster velocities than does my 20" Rossi 357mag carbine.
10/29/2011 8:57:10 PM
The 19" round barrel carbine is the "handiest" and fastest to use due to the lighter weight.
The octagon barrel short rifle with 20" barrel is the most cool, especially since it has a color case hardened receiver.
The 24" standard rifle barrel version is the most cool because longer barreled lever guns aren't seen all that often.
The octagon barrel short rifle with 20" barrel is the most cool, especially since it has a color case hardened receiver.
The 24" standard rifle barrel version is the most cool because longer barreled lever guns aren't seen all that often.
10/30/2011 1:15:37 AM
Originally Posted By Still_learning:
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/images/1873_short_rifle_lg.jpg
20" barrel
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/images/1873_carbine_lg.jpg
19" barrel
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/images/1873_half_octagonal_lg.jpg
18" barrel
What do you guys think about these rifles? I am wanting one in 357. Do the octagonal barrels make the rifle too heavy or less handy?
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/images/1873_short_rifle_lg.jpg
20" barrel
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/images/1873_carbine_lg.jpg
19" barrel
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/images/1873_half_octagonal_lg.jpg
18" barrel
What do you guys think about these rifles? I am wanting one in 357. Do the octagonal barrels make the rifle too heavy or less handy?
The 20" at top in 357 is exactly what I want.
10/30/2011 1:47:44 AM
I don't care for the half octagon barrels, just personal preference.
The 19 inch carbine has the saddle ring carbine buttplate, which for me is vastly preferable to the crescent buttplate on the other two.
My ideal 1873 would be the 19 inch carbine, (or even a 16 inch trapper) with a color case receiver, in 44 Special.
The 19 inch carbine has the saddle ring carbine buttplate, which for me is vastly preferable to the crescent buttplate on the other two.
My ideal 1873 would be the 19 inch carbine, (or even a 16 inch trapper) with a color case receiver, in 44 Special.
10/30/2011 1:06:51 PM
I've no experience with 1873s, but:
"Today's modern clone 1873s come in many calibers including the 44 WCF and the 32-20 WCF... I am told they also come in the 38-40 but I have yet to see one. Several distributors have them also chambered in the more modern calibers like the .357 magnum. Since the toggle system design of the 1873s is not a very strong system, with a very slim bolt... that chambering surprises me. For a design that was made to take 16,000 psi (to a top load of 23,000 psi in modern steel)... the 35,000 psi of today’s commercial 357 loads is way over the stress points of the design. And some commercial ammo is still loaded to the original 357 pressure levels of 45,000+ psi."
- GunBlast
"Today's modern clone 1873s come in many calibers including the 44 WCF and the 32-20 WCF... I am told they also come in the 38-40 but I have yet to see one. Several distributors have them also chambered in the more modern calibers like the .357 magnum. Since the toggle system design of the 1873s is not a very strong system, with a very slim bolt... that chambering surprises me. For a design that was made to take 16,000 psi (to a top load of 23,000 psi in modern steel)... the 35,000 psi of today’s commercial 357 loads is way over the stress points of the design. And some commercial ammo is still loaded to the original 357 pressure levels of 45,000+ psi."
- GunBlast
11/20/2011 8:36:52 AM
I used to own one of the "short rifle" versions with the octagon 20 inch barrel. It was one of the most handsome firearms I've ever owned. The length seemed right and very elegant. The crescent butt plate had very sharp edges that were sometimes uncomfortable even after I rounded them off with a file. My biggest problem with the rifle I had was that I got it in .45 colt. Slow speed round with lots of bullet drop. You're smart to get it in .357 mag.
11/20/2011 11:30:58 AM
Originally Posted By the_great_mantis:
I've no experience with 1873s, but:
"Today's modern clone 1873s come in many calibers including the 44 WCF and the 32-20 WCF... I am told they also come in the 38-40 but I have yet to see one. Several distributors have them also chambered in the more modern calibers like the .357 magnum. Since the toggle system design of the 1873s is not a very strong system, with a very slim bolt... that chambering surprises me. For a design that was made to take 16,000 psi (to a top load of 23,000 psi in modern steel)... the 35,000 psi of today’s commercial 357 loads is way over the stress points of the design. And some commercial ammo is still loaded to the original 357 pressure levels of 45,000+ psi."
- GunBlast
I've no experience with 1873s, but:
"Today's modern clone 1873s come in many calibers including the 44 WCF and the 32-20 WCF... I am told they also come in the 38-40 but I have yet to see one. Several distributors have them also chambered in the more modern calibers like the .357 magnum. Since the toggle system design of the 1873s is not a very strong system, with a very slim bolt... that chambering surprises me. For a design that was made to take 16,000 psi (to a top load of 23,000 psi in modern steel)... the 35,000 psi of today’s commercial 357 loads is way over the stress points of the design. And some commercial ammo is still loaded to the original 357 pressure levels of 45,000+ psi."
- GunBlast
This is a good point so the hot 357mag ammo should be used sparingly in it as it tends to loosen up the action with prolonged use. Milder 357mag ammo and of course 38spl and 38spl+P ammo is fine for it. Steve of Steve's Gunz is a primo gunsmith on Rossis and all things leverguns and CASS as his information is what I'm relying upon.
11/20/2011 7:32:36 PM
Originally Posted By Still_learning:
What do you guys think about these rifles? I am wanting one in 357. Do the octagonal barrels make the rifle too heavy or less handy?
What do you guys think about these rifles? I am wanting one in 357. Do the octagonal barrels make the rifle too heavy or less handy?
For .357 mag.....they're heavy.
We use them in Cowboy Shooting......but they've been slicked and short-stroked.
If you want a .357 for fun use.....get something else.
If you still want a 1873 replica......get one in 44-40 or better yet 38-40 and load a black powder substitute.... now THAT'S FUN!!!
11/21/2011 9:33:36 PM
Originally Posted By TUMOR:
For .357 mag.....they're heavy.
We use them in Cowboy Shooting......but they've been slicked and short-stroked.
If you want a .357 for fun use.....get something else.
If you still want a 1873 replica......get one in 44-40 or better yet 38-40 and load a black powder substitute.... now THAT'S FUN!!!
Originally Posted By Still_learning:
What do you guys think about these rifles? I am wanting one in 357. Do the octagonal barrels make the rifle too heavy or less handy?
What do you guys think about these rifles? I am wanting one in 357. Do the octagonal barrels make the rifle too heavy or less handy?
For .357 mag.....they're heavy.
We use them in Cowboy Shooting......but they've been slicked and short-stroked.
If you want a .357 for fun use.....get something else.
If you still want a 1873 replica......get one in 44-40 or better yet 38-40 and load a black powder substitute.... now THAT'S FUN!!!
I agree. My dad has one that has been slicked and short-stroked. He loves it. I haven't fired it, but its probably the cleanest feeling lever action I have ever held.
11/28/2011 6:33:50 PM
Those are some beautiful rifles
11/28/2011 7:59:23 PM
I like my 20" short rifle chambered in .357.
Especially with fullhouse .38 SPL black powder loads!
Got a "few" thousand rounds through it, probably 80% of them BP.
Especially with fullhouse .38 SPL black powder loads!
Got a "few" thousand rounds through it, probably 80% of them BP.
11/28/2011 11:37:40 PM
You know something that's really sad? All the gun stores near me are gone.
11/29/2011 1:39:44 AM
of your choices I'd go with the 20in short rifle
but I'm partial to the 24in Special Sporting myself
but I'm partial to the 24in Special Sporting myself
11/29/2011 1:38:18 PM
24" octagon barreled Special Sporting Rifle and a Lyman tang sight . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . be still my heart.
11/30/2011 1:22:03 PM
I would choose anything with a Octigon barrel over a round barrel, they are just nicer looking.
