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 How heavy a safe can be moved down wooden stairs?
hunt4info  [Member]
5/22/2009 8:31:38 AM
When considering a safe to take down some stairs (and probably up again someday!), how heavy can it be to safely move down (and later up) a flight of wooden stairs, straight shot about 10 steps? I know height, width etc. matters too, but that I can probably figure out myself. I suppose construction and supports makes a differnce...just trying to get this thread started to get a sense for considerations and limits. Thanks in advance to the experienced safe movers of the world. I am looking at various safe options and this seems an obvious practical constraint.
brain3278  [Member]
5/22/2009 9:37:34 AM
Originally Posted By hunt4info:
When considering a safe to take down some stairs (and probably up again someday!), how heavy can it be to safely move down (and later up) a flight of wooden stairs, straight shot about 10 steps? I know height, width etc. matters too, but that I can probably figure out myself. I suppose construction and supports makes a differnce...just trying to get this thread started to get a sense for considerations and limits. Thanks in advance to the experienced safe movers of the world. I am looking at various safe options and this seems an obvious practical constraint.


It all depends on how your staircase is constructed. Personally I wouldn't move anything over 1000 pounds down a wood stud stair case. Of course 1000 pounds would be tough to manage in a confined space.

Just remember safety is the most important. you don't want a 1000 # safe falling on top of people.

you can always get five 200# friends to step on the same stair tread together. If the staircase doesn't collapse your probably fine.

45stops-em-quick  [Team Member]
5/22/2009 12:45:29 PM
It all depends on how your staricase is constructed, however it sounds like you're planning to place the safe in the basement. Professional safe movers use different methods of moving safes up and down staircases, sometimes bracing the staircase supports, and sometimes using cribbing to spread the load over multiple stairs at the same time. With that said, if you're thinking of moving a large and heavy safe down a flight of stairs, you should seriously consider hiring a professional. A falling safe cannot be stopped, and safes tumbling down stairs have and do kill people. Unless it's just a small burgulary safe, and even then, you'll need some expertise, finesse, and a stair walker handtruck, you should price out safe movers. Many times it's worth talking to a real safe dealer, not a gunstore or home improvement store that sells safes, and let them give you a price to install the safe. You'll find that sometimes a dealer 100-200 miles away may have a cheaper installed price than a local guy who contracts the moving out, check around. Always make sure that the movers are professionals and bonded, as you don't want them moving your safe away when you're not around, and if they damage your house, you want to know that it's covered.
fearme  [Member]
5/22/2009 3:19:41 PM
A real TL rated gunsafe sized safe will easily weigh over 4,000 pounds with some approaching 7,000. Standard wooden stairs will not support a load like that. Riggers I've seen usually build a ramp out of small steel beams and plywood resting on the original stairs and anchored top and and bottom. Special heavy equipment, lots of strong backs, and insurance is needed to move loads like that in a house.
oldrock  [Member]
5/23/2009 3:18:40 PM
I would say even a 1000 pound safe could be very risky on your typical contractor built wood staircase. If one stud fails and the mover loses his footing, the safe takes off and anyone under it would be injured or killed. Just take a look at the 2 x X" lumber at your local home depot. How many of those studs have large knots, cracks, or other imperfections. One of those bad studs fails and it is bye bye safe. Even for under 1000 pound safes, I'd say at a minimum you should have 4 strong guys to move a safe up or down wooden staircase.
nmichlig  [Member]
5/23/2009 11:38:48 PM
I'd take 8 2X4's about 12 feet long and lay them down on your case. Then all you need is 4 guys and a 5 foot crowbar and some rope. The crowbar will thought single point of pressure movement get the safe up the innital 5-6 inches and the guys pulling the rope and pushing up will be able to get a 2000 pound safe up the stairs.

A intresting way of moving a safe is to get a pick up truck and take the lift gate off. Two guys can tip the safe on to the truck.
45stops-em-quick  [Team Member]
5/24/2009 10:04:53 AM
Originally Posted By nmichlig:
I'd take 8 2X4's about 12 feet long and lay them down on your case. Then all you need is 4 guys and a 5 foot crowbar and some rope. The crowbar will thought single point of pressure movement get the safe up the innital 5-6 inches and the guys pulling the rope and pushing up will be able to get a 2000 pound safe up the stairs.

A intresting way of moving a safe is to get a pick up truck and take the lift gate off. Two guys can tip the safe on to the truck.


If that rope breaks, someone slips, etc, those guys pushing the safe up the stairs will be pushing the daisies in the cemetary up. Don't do this, hire professionals, or at least move the safe the way professionals would.

fearme  [Member]
5/24/2009 2:05:42 PM
What does the safe really weigh? A lot of these sheetmetal cabinets are 1,000 or under. Something like that can be done with a lot of careful planning and strong backs.

tclifton  [Member]
5/31/2009 12:58:33 PM
My Liberty weighs in at about 750lbs empty. My stairs go up 3 treads then switchback 180 degrees to 13 more treads. The thought of trying to manhandle the thing up there was enough to bring on cold sweats! The visions I had of things going wrong were pretty vivid. I hired a pro for $150 to do it. He had an electric powered dolly that lifted it up the stairs one tread at a time! Two guys, 10 minutes, all done. Frankly, I didn't even twitch at the price. Buy yourself some peace of mind.....
Tutmos  [Member]
6/7/2009 4:26:39 PM
With respect to a 7000lbs TL rated safe down the stairs, uh you couldn't safely move something that heavy across the floor leading to the stairs without crashing through into the basement let alone worrying about breaking stairs. That's like 50 people all concentrated and standing in one spot.

Edit: I don't own a safe. La LA La nevermind what I wrote.
ballbags  [Member]
6/9/2009 10:15:13 PM
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