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 Need a fireproof safe for cash
DocBach  [Team Member]
2/22/2009 6:59:30 PM EST
I'm in Iraq but my wife is back home and she wants to pull some cash out of the banks and put it into a fireproof safe at home, we're looking for something small and efficient, preferably one with a combo lock since we don't want to rely on batteries and we don't want keys since she'll probably lose them. Any recommendations?
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1911_Mitch  [Member]
2/22/2009 7:29:22 PM EST
Not really small, but a very good fire proof safe option in the: Sturdy Safe
You can get it with standard or extra fire blankets
RckClimber  [Member]
2/23/2009 8:54:42 AM EST
Budget?

I like this one.
http://www.safeshowroom.com/eshop/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=UL1511

Two hour UL fire rating up to 1850 degrees. Light enough for one person to move, but can be bolted down (and should be if possible). Under $500.



This one is a little bigger, and weighs twice as much. Only ~$100 more as well. (It comes standard with a mechanical lock).


ETA: Last edit, (maybe). If you're JUST looking for a fire safe, make sure it's a UL listed one. While not common in gun safes, a UL listed fire resistant safe won't be terribly expensive. Even a sentry safe is UL listed, or at least were when I bought mine (which I sold once I got my gun safe).
rapracing  [Team Member]
2/23/2009 9:24:21 AM EST
I've got one. Save the money and send it to me and I'll keep it for you
luscioman  [Member]
2/23/2009 9:41:05 AM EST
Not sure why you want to do that but a deposit box at the bank is a better choice. If you have a small safe at home it probably will be easily broken into or easily removed.
RckClimber  [Member]
2/23/2009 1:53:53 PM EST
Originally Posted By luscioman:
Not sure why you want to do that but a deposit box at the bank is a better choice. If you have a small safe at home it probably will be easily broken into or easily removed.


IMHO, I think it is wise to have a decent amount of cash at home. Not tens of thousands (unless you can afford it), but a few grand in $100's, $50's, $20's, $10's, $5's, and $1's is a good idea. Cash it great for hiding present purchases with (the wife and I do this if we actually want to surprise each other since we share a bank account). I've gotten deals in purchases from yard sales, craigslist etc that I couldn't have with a check (a wad a green will often help haggle for a much lower price). Around here we had a local bank go under that locked the doors (and vault), and if you had something in the safe deposit box, it took weeks to get back. If you need that $$ in an emergency, you're screwed since banks aren't open 24-7. In natural disaster type emergencies, banks might be closed, and if the power is out, the ATM wont' be working, and neither will CC machines. Cash is king more often than not.

Also, the benefit of small safes compared to large gun safes is they can be hidden. Take a good quality small safe, bolt it down somewhere hidden, and IF a burglar finds it, it'll take a fair amount of work to get into. Not a ton (I don't think either of the ones I posted are TL burglary rated, but construction wise they're both much stronger and resistant to burglars than most RSC gun safes), but enough that they might give up.

ETA: Almost forgot the best part. Once you buy the safe, it's free. You don't have to pay a deposit box fee every month. Besides, who wants to store their home made porn at the bank?
fearme  [Member]
2/23/2009 3:42:19 PM EST
You can also count on "Bank Holidays" in the next year. Keep enough USD cash for 2 months of expenses.

I opted for a sealed PVC tube in my yard. Fireproof/waterproof/cheap and nobody knows where it is.

More and more people are starting to wake up to the coming Depression so you'll have more people hoarding cash. This means you'll have more people with large sums of cash which will get stolen. Anything short of a REAL TL-30x6 safe will be a serious target. Forget about RSC-rated gun safes!

Remember too that if a desperate thief thinks you have large sums of cash/jewels in any kind of safe, there's not much stopping them from making you or your wife hostage and making you open it.

Low key is key.

luscioman  [Member]
2/24/2009 5:26:58 AM EST
Originally Posted By RckClimber:
Originally Posted By luscioman:
Not sure why you want to do that but a deposit box at the bank is a better choice. If you have a small safe at home it probably will be easily broken into or easily removed.


IMHO, I think it is wise to have a decent amount of cash at home. Not tens of thousands (unless you can afford it), but a few grand in $100's, $50's, $20's, $10's, $5's, and $1's is a good idea. Cash it great for hiding present purchases with (the wife and I do this if we actually want to surprise each other since we share a bank account). I've gotten deals in purchases from yard sales, craigslist etc that I couldn't have with a check (a wad a green will often help haggle for a much lower price). Around here we had a local bank go under that locked the doors (and vault), and if you had something in the safe deposit box, it took weeks to get back. If you need that $$ in an emergency, you're screwed since banks aren't open 24-7. In natural disaster type emergencies, banks might be closed, and if the power is out, the ATM wont' be working, and neither will CC machines. Cash is king more often than not.

Also, the benefit of small safes compared to large gun safes is they can be hidden. Take a good quality small safe, bolt it down somewhere hidden, and IF a burglar finds it, it'll take a fair amount of work to get into. Not a ton (I don't think either of the ones I posted are TL burglary rated, but construction wise they're both much stronger and resistant to burglars than most RSC gun safes), but enough that they might give up.

ETA: Almost forgot the best part. Once you buy the safe, it's free. You don't have to pay a deposit box fee every month. Besides, who wants to store their home made porn at the bank?


I dont disagree with keeping cash in the house. However I would not want to put it in a small safe that could be comprmised easily. I would perfer to hide the money then have a safe. In my case I probably have a much higher chance of being broken into then a firing occuring and burning the cash. If it is a large some of money I would still keep it in a safe deposit box. I guess another question to ask is she going to be using the money every day or week as petty cash or does she only need it once in a while?
rvbrewer625  [Member]
2/24/2009 7:24:41 PM EST
Ever thought of a floor safe? One that goes into the foundation. They are a pain in the but to install so you would need some muscle, but they are very low key. You can easily hide one in the corner closet under the carpet and a panel. You would need some strength to install as you have to go through the foundation. Its not hard at all to do just takes more effort than most fat americans want to put out. Superb fire rating and you can get them pretty cheap with a high anti-crack rating. Search the net and you can get easy video how to's. You probly won't go this way but trust me besides the work part it has every other option beat like a redheaded stepchild. todd
ridata  [Team Member]
2/26/2009 6:36:12 PM EST
Maybe get two safes.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=136&t=573076

Especially since it's just your wife home, I'd get two and split the money. If it gets bolted down well enough and is a halfway decent safe, I'd worry more about being forced to open it than I would be of it getting broken in to.
Waldo0506  [Team Member]
2/28/2009 9:04:35 AM EST
I have safe like this...



This safe is easily transportable, easy to steal, easy to open. All around a good place to put money.
supv26  [Member]
2/28/2009 2:43:29 PM EST
Originally Posted By Waldo0506:
I have safe like this...

http://www.oppictures.com/singleimages/400/SENF2300_1_1.JPG

This safe is easily transportable, easy to steal, easy to open. All around a good place to put money.


I am going to get something like this to put inside my regular safe. I guess that will make it double fire proof!
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