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Different rules for different FFL's in Illinois
8/17/2011 4:00:33 PM
Ok some background info. A few years ago our attorney general determined that a person who simply holds a firearm is in possession of that gun and must produce a FOID (Firearms owners identification card) to prove that they are legal to own a gun. I have heard tales of FFL's being arrested by the state police for not checking foid's and letting people handle guns. If this wasn't enough bullshit it gets better. In my city we had a Gander Mountain open a few years ago and more recently a Scheel's. Now they do have their hand guns under glass, but the long guns are out in the open for any one to walk up and handle. They do not ask to see the foid before a person can handle the gun.
So I finally call the state police and ask why the double standard? The reply I got was that it must be store policy to allow this!
So because I'm a small FFL I can go to jail, but a large chain store gets a pass? Well it seems to be the case and he is going to refer my question to his master sergeant for review. I guess that it would be easy to beat the charges by pointing out the double standard, but who wants to go to jail to prove a point.
So I finally call the state police and ask why the double standard? The reply I got was that it must be store policy to allow this!
So because I'm a small FFL I can go to jail, but a large chain store gets a pass? Well it seems to be the case and he is going to refer my question to his master sergeant for review. I guess that it would be easy to beat the charges by pointing out the double standard, but who wants to go to jail to prove a point.
8/22/2011 6:15:34 PM
Unless someone leaves your store with your guns, you are still in possession of them. I highly doubt anyone will go to jail for letting someone handle a safe, unloaded firearm in a controlled environment such as your store.
8/22/2011 11:30:00 PM
Please post a link to the AG ruling. Illinois Transferring firearms PDF says a buyer must produce a FOID to both an FFL or an individual prior to handling. I don't see "handling" mentioned in the FOID legislation. What is the requirement for non-residents prior to handling?
The AG must have a loose definition of "transfer" and "acquire".
(p.s. If you are a non-resident and ever go hunting in IL buy you ammo before you get there. Some stores don't know the laws fully.)
The AG must have a loose definition of "transfer" and "acquire".
(p.s. If you are a non-resident and ever go hunting in IL buy you ammo before you get there. Some stores don't know the laws fully.)
