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Pics of a loaded lee 12 gauge slug
5/21/2012 8:31:38 PM
Does anyone have a photo of what a Lee 12 gauge slug loaded looks like? I am going to load some up, but wondering what the crimp should look like.
Thanks,
Skink
Thanks,
Skink
5/21/2012 9:12:25 PM
Loaded Oct, 1999. Lee 12 ga 1oz key drive slug. Loaded on a Mec 600Jr.HS-6 powder-36.0gr.- Win. 2 3/4" AA Case- Win. 209 primer- Win. Wad 12F114 (discontinued)?- "0" wadd pressure-Average group @ 100 yds 7 1/2"-Mossberg 500 scoped, rifled barrel. Photos of the cast slug and mould can be seen in this photo album http://www.photobucket.com/joe1944usa 
5/21/2012 10:25:59 PM
Thanks for the quick reply. I tried loading some with the Lee data and got a serious roll crimp.
5/21/2012 10:56:40 PM
My slugs look like normal shotshells. The ones pictured above aren't right. The "load column" in those is too short hence the open tops and swirling. Wait one and I'll post up a pic of mine with the data..
ETA –– pic
Load column. I use the fiber disc to increase the load column height for proper crimps.
I have loaded Lee slugs using Red Dot and Green Dot as well. I used the HS-6 in my last batch just to use it up.
ETA –– pic
Load column. I use the fiber disc to increase the load column height for proper crimps.
I have loaded Lee slugs using Red Dot and Green Dot as well. I used the HS-6 in my last batch just to use it up.
5/22/2012 5:41:12 PM
Which wad did you use?
5/22/2012 7:21:46 PM
A Federal 12S3 wad and the .090 in. fiber "card" from Ballistics Products. The fiber card not only gives you added height, but prevents the wad from becoming lodged into the slug bottom, or so I've read.
YMMV, but I have loaded the Lee 1oz slugs using a few different wads/powder combos. I have used other wads like WAA12's and appropriate cards etc.. DO NOT however, place the cards on top of the slug. The card may become lodged between the slug and the barrel when fired..not good.
The load data is written on the white slip of paper in the pic.
YMMV, but I have loaded the Lee 1oz slugs using a few different wads/powder combos. I have used other wads like WAA12's and appropriate cards etc.. DO NOT however, place the cards on top of the slug. The card may become lodged between the slug and the barrel when fired..not good.
The load data is written on the white slip of paper in the pic.
5/29/2012 8:40:49 PM
What, no 38g of HS6 like Lee recommends
. I am going to try some loads and use Cream of wheat as a filler.
. I am going to try some loads and use Cream of wheat as a filler.5/30/2012 1:31:36 AM
Originally Posted By skink:
What, no 38g of HS6 like Lee recommends. I am going to try some loads and use Cream of wheat as a filler.
What, no 38g of HS6 like Lee recommends
. I am going to try some loads and use Cream of wheat as a filler.I use cream of wheat in my buckshot loads for a buffer to prevent shot deformation. I found the 'wheat likes to leak out of the center of the crimp so I add a drop of wax to seal it up. While my buckshot loads aren't as good as factory stuff, they work fine for what I do with them.
I over waxed the one on the left.
5/30/2012 4:43:26 PM
Originally Posted By KB7DX:
I use cream of wheat in my buckshot loads for a buffer to prevent shot deformation. I found the 'wheat likes to leak out of the center of the crimp so I add a drop of wax to seal it up. While my buckshot loads aren't as good as factory stuff, they work fine for what I do with them.
I over waxed the one on the left.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f110/vassili67/shotty/waxseal.jpg
Originally Posted By skink:
What, no 38g of HS6 like Lee recommends. I am going to try some loads and use Cream of wheat as a filler.
What, no 38g of HS6 like Lee recommends
. I am going to try some loads and use Cream of wheat as a filler.I use cream of wheat in my buckshot loads for a buffer to prevent shot deformation. I found the 'wheat likes to leak out of the center of the crimp so I add a drop of wax to seal it up. While my buckshot loads aren't as good as factory stuff, they work fine for what I do with them.
I over waxed the one on the left.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f110/vassili67/shotty/waxseal.jpg
A 30gr load of HS-6 is potent enough. 38gr?
Sheesh. I forgot the load off the top of my head but I load a buffered #4 buck load with 20 something gr of HS-6. Works like a champ. I've been a bit put off to load my own slugs. I just might have to do that. I only have 900 primers laying around doing nothing. Might as well load up some more shotshells. 
Oh, the wax thing, can one use elmers? I know it would take longer to dry but figured the application would be easier.
5/30/2012 8:28:00 PM
I would think anything light like Elmers or wax would be gtg. You are not sealing the cartidge, just stopping the buffer from coming out. Thanks for the ideas!
5/30/2012 8:51:30 PM
Try using a .125" 20 gauge filler card at the bottom of the wad, under the 1oz slug.
You'll probably experience better accuracy too since the filler card will help the wad come off the slug quicker after it leaves the barrel.
I use the Winchester pink wads and 19 grains of green dot for my 1oz slug loads..
You'll probably experience better accuracy too since the filler card will help the wad come off the slug quicker after it leaves the barrel.
I use the Winchester pink wads and 19 grains of green dot for my 1oz slug loads..
5/30/2012 8:56:23 PM
Picture taken just now:
5/31/2012 6:45:43 PM
Originally Posted By skink:
What, no 38g of HS6 like Lee recommends. I am going to try some loads and use Cream of wheat as a filler.
I guess Im crazy or stupid.What, no 38g of HS6 like Lee recommends
. I am going to try some loads and use Cream of wheat as a filler.I just shot a box of reloaded Lee slugs with the Lee data.
I think it might have been a little less but, had no problems.
6/2/2012 12:13:22 AM
Originally Posted By skink:
I would think anything light like Elmers or wax would be gtg. You are not sealing the cartidge, just stopping the buffer from coming out. Thanks for the ideas!
I would think anything light like Elmers or wax would be gtg. You are not sealing the cartidge, just stopping the buffer from coming out. Thanks for the ideas!
I don't know about using any kind of glue. It may build up in the barrel, maybe not. The wax is pretty soft and will not harden. A small eyedropper and a burning candle makes quick work of sealing shotshells.
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6/2/2012 12:18:14 AM
Originally Posted By skink:
I would think anything light like Elmers or wax would be gtg. You are not sealing the cartidge, just stopping the buffer from coming out. Thanks for the ideas!
I would think anything light like Elmers or wax would be gtg. You are not sealing the cartidge, just stopping the buffer from coming out. Thanks for the ideas!
This just dawned on me, are you intending to put the 'wheat buffer on top of the slug?
6/2/2012 7:02:33 AM
A buffer (not wheat or flour) is used with shot, not slugs. There are plastic buffer agents available from http://www.ballisticproducts.com/ Follow a recipe/loading data, when loading slugs or shot. Back in the dark ages, we used flour as a buffer agent for shot loads. This would draw moisture. On firing, the wad column grabbed the barrel wall, raising pressure way to high for safety.
Originally Posted By KB7DX:
This just dawned on me, are you intending to put the 'wheat buffer on top of the slug?
Originally Posted By skink:
I would think anything light like Elmers or wax would be gtg. You are not sealing the cartidge, just stopping the buffer from coming out. Thanks for the ideas!
I would think anything light like Elmers or wax would be gtg. You are not sealing the cartidge, just stopping the buffer from coming out. Thanks for the ideas!
This just dawned on me, are you intending to put the 'wheat buffer on top of the slug?
6/2/2012 10:05:15 AM
Originally Posted By 243winxb:
A buffer (not wheat or flour) is used with shot, not slugs. There are plastic buffer agents available from http://www.ballisticproducts.com/ Follow a recipe/loading data, when loading slugs or shot. Back in the dark ages, we used flour as a buffer agent for shot loads. This would draw moisture. On firing, the wad column grabbed the barrel wall, raising pressure way to high for safety.
A buffer (not wheat or flour) is used with shot, not slugs. There are plastic buffer agents available from http://www.ballisticproducts.com/ Follow a recipe/loading data, when loading slugs or shot. Back in the dark ages, we used flour as a buffer agent for shot loads. This would draw moisture. On firing, the wad column grabbed the barrel wall, raising pressure way to high for safety.
Originally Posted By KB7DX:
This just dawned on me, are you intending to put the 'wheat buffer on top of the slug?
Originally Posted By skink:
I would think anything light like Elmers or wax would be gtg. You are not sealing the cartidge, just stopping the buffer from coming out. Thanks for the ideas!
I would think anything light like Elmers or wax would be gtg. You are not sealing the cartidge, just stopping the buffer from coming out. Thanks for the ideas!
This just dawned on me, are you intending to put the 'wheat buffer on top of the slug?
My concern with using 'wheat on top of the slug was this issue. The 'wheat could get wedged between the slug and barrel leading to high pressure. skink, use a shot card under the slug, not 'wheat on top of it.
