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 hornady LNL AUTO CHARGE dispenser issues!
usmcscout  [Team Member]
5/16/2012 8:35:51 PM
So I tried 8208 xbr ,benchmark,tac,he355,and cfe 223. Seems as nothing hits the set target range always way under or over. AM i doing something wrong I tried fast ,med,slow modes. am I doing something wrong any help is appreciated. I cal before each time I have tried to use this unit. am I doing something wrong ?
thanks guys
TimpAR  [Member]
5/16/2012 11:44:45 PM
This topic is of interest for me...
usmcscout  [Team Member]
5/17/2012 12:50:01 AM
Just received this as a gift from wife and wondering if im doing something wrong. No one out there has a auto charge?
Recoil737  [Team Member]
5/17/2012 5:24:36 AM
disregard
PhreakMode  [Team Member]
5/17/2012 10:57:14 AM
The powder dispenser on the LNL is terrible for precision throws and I use the term precision loosely. So much so, that I have switched to manually charging casings with an older Redding then running them through the LNL for seating and crimping. Your's may improve with some wear time on it, but mine has not.
usmcscout  [Team Member]
5/17/2012 1:45:58 PM
Originally Posted By PhreakMode:
The powder dispenser on the LNL is terrible for precision throws and I use the term precision loosely. So much so, that I have switched to manually charging casings with an older Redding then running them through the LNL for seating and crimping. Your's may improve with some wear time on it, but mine has not.


Now that's not what i wanted to hear i have a Forsner drop
but was hoping this unit would at least drop charges somewhat
accurately
hdbiker1  [Member]
5/17/2012 2:17:19 PM
I don't have any experience with the LnL Auto Charge, but I do have an RCBS Charge Master. Having said that, does yours slow down when getting close and then go into trickle mode? Does it hold zero? Do you have any source that might be emitting an electrical interference (static or lighting)? Maybe a phone call to Hornady is in order.
dryflash3  [Moderator]
5/17/2012 2:40:26 PM


The Hornady PM is a quality unit and will drop accurate charges with the correct technique.

First thing I have to ask is, how did you clean it before putting it to use?

Has to be clean and all preservative removed before use.

Or it will not throw accurate charges.
usmcscout  [Team Member]
5/17/2012 2:50:37 PM
Originally Posted By dryflash3:
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Measure/P9270287-1.jpg

The Hornady PM is a quality unit and will drop accurate charges with the correct technique.

First thing I have to ask is, how did you clean it before putting it to use?

Has to be clean and all preservative removed before use.

Or it will not throw accurate charges.


The AUTO CHARGE kinda cheaper version of chargemaster. when for example 20 gr or whatever programmed, it only dispenses 17.6 kinda annoying. My manual powder drop (Forsner ) works great once dialed in but expected more out of hornady.
usmcscout  [Team Member]
5/17/2012 2:53:29 PM
Originally Posted By hdbiker1:
I don't have any experience with the LnL Auto Charge, but I do have an RCBS Charge Master. Having said that, does yours slow down when getting close and then go into trickle mode? Does it hold zero? Do you have any source that might be emitting an electrical interference (static or lighting)? Maybe a phone call to Hornady is in order.


Ya I am thinking so. I thought maybe I was doing something wrong but this is annoying having to trickle last few grains. I tried several ball,exstrude, flake. really annoying.
usmcscout  [Team Member]
5/17/2012 3:01:28 PM
I need it would not be as quick as manual drops but was expecting hassle free acurite drops. guess I will be contacting them well see how helpful they are
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fsjdw2  [Team Member]
5/17/2012 3:03:29 PM
Originally Posted By dryflash3:
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Measure/P9270287-1.jpg

The Hornady PM is a quality unit and will drop accurate charges with the correct technique.

First thing I have to ask is, how did you clean it before putting it to use?

Has to be clean and all preservative removed before use.

Or it will not throw accurate charges.


I would also recomend using a dryer sheet to wipe out the inside, and then tie it around the plastic part. (heck I did it I am alive it must be good ) . And I get really consistant charges out of mine. less than .05 grain differance between charges, my scale doesn't get that precise so I dont care.
Snopczynski  [Team Member]
5/17/2012 3:29:37 PM
Are you doing the scale calibration when you turn it on?

Do you have a manual scale to check it against?
usmcscout  [Team Member]
5/17/2012 4:44:30 PM
Originally Posted By Snopczynski:
Are you doing the scale calibration when you turn it on?

Do you have a manual scale to check it against?


Yes I have been cal every time I turn it on after allowing 30 min warm up. yes I have ohaus scale. I did notice every few charges i set empty pan on it it losses zero so I hit zero and its ok for several charges.
88_Sahara  [Member]
5/17/2012 5:20:08 PM
Get it away from any other power sources as this can cause fluctuation in measures. I have an RCBS Charge Master and have never had any issues.
Dogue  [Team Member]
5/17/2012 8:35:01 PM
Originally Posted By dryflash3:
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Measure/P9270287-1.jpg

The Hornady PM is a quality unit and will drop accurate charges with the correct technique.

First thing I have to ask is, how did you clean it before putting it to use?

Has to be clean and all preservative removed before use.

Or it will not throw accurate charges.


dry, he's talking about this unit...



But your advice on cleaning still has value. I would venture to guess that most issues with any powder drop or powder measure are cleaning, degreasing, and removing static related.
dryflash3  [Moderator]
5/17/2012 10:27:49 PM

Originally Posted By Dogue:
Originally Posted By dryflash3:
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Measure/P9270287-1.jpg

The Hornady PM is a quality unit and will drop accurate charges with the correct technique.

First thing I have to ask is, how did you clean it before putting it to use?

Has to be clean and all preservative removed before use.

Or it will not throw accurate charges.


dry, he's talking about this unit...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41nnneQRSWL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

But your advice on cleaning still has value. I would venture to guess that most issues with any powder drop or powder measure are cleaning, degreasing, and removing static related.
I see now.

Never mind.

steve4102  [Member]
5/18/2012 7:42:32 AM
I do not have a LNL, but I do have a Lyman 1200. These devices are very sensitive and can be affected by outside sources. Things like drafts from a heat duct or air conditioner, Cell phones near by, Loud music and not so loud music, Wireless Laptops/PC near by. Some say florescent lights can affect them, but my man cave is lit up with them and I have no issues.

The banging and vibrations of the press on the bench can be a big problem, the unit should not be on the same bench surface as the press, every stroke of the press can knock it out of whack. I have my Lyman sitting on a separate bench all by itself.

Even an open door way can cause issues. When I am using my Lyman in the man cave and someone opens the door to enter or just bug me, the Lyman often times goes off beeping telling me to re-calibrate zero.

Did you by chance spill some powder on the scale? A few years ago my Lyman starting acting up similar to your situation. What I found was a kernel of "Rat Turd" powder lodged between the pressure pan and the housing. Cleaned it and a few other kernels out and it has been running great ever since.

Otherwise call Hornady.
LonelyRaven  [Member]
5/18/2012 8:55:23 AM
I've been doing quite a bit of research on these powered powder measures, and one thing that comes up frequently is the Hornady usually goes .1 grains over for some reason. I see it on many forums, and even some YouTube videos.

I've not seen anything like what your describing, and I'm betting it's needing to go back to Hornady.

Just FYI, without going to something like the Prometheus, it seems the RCBS Charge Master keeps coming up on top...even over the PACT powder dispenser (PACT makes the Charge Master for RCBS).

I really wanted to get the PACT or the Hornady (I'm not married to any brand), but the research shows more people are happier with the RCBS - I'd rather pay the $100 extra and not have the frustrations.

Though I hope Hornady or PACT can come up with a nice powder charge that rivals the RCBS in that $200 range.
BullitBill  [Member]
5/18/2012 9:53:14 AM
I had to send mine to Hornady under warranty because it wouldn't hold zero or work in manual. The one they sent me still doesn't like to work in manual but holds zero. I have it sitting on a piece of 4" foam rubber with plywood on top. It still wiggles a bit when I operate the press but throws accurate charges. It will overcharge a couple times each loading session but nothing I can't live with.
gasdoc09  [Team Member]
5/18/2012 3:46:00 PM
Interference can be a problem. Something that may help, if yours won't hold a zero or acts up, is putting a $1 ferrite bead / cable clamp on the power cord.

My Hornady autocharge works great, nearly always within 0.1 grain with Varget in slow mode. Every once in a while though it'll get stuck in a screwup mode where every charge will go over. An unplug / restart / rezero solves this.
Staggunner  [Team Member]
5/18/2012 6:28:15 PM

Originally Posted By usmcscout:
Originally Posted By Snopczynski:
Are you doing the scale calibration when you turn it on?

Do you have a manual scale to check it against?


Yes I have been cal every time I turn it on after allowing 30 min warm up. yes I have ohaus scale. I did notice every few charges i set empty pan on it it losses zero so I hit zero and its ok for several charges.

I have my Chargemaster in an unheated room. I have noticed that when it's cold outside, it will not return to zero reliably for at least a half hour till my room
warms up (electic heaters).

After that, it functions flawlessly, very rarely missing the exact charge.
robpiat  [Member]
5/18/2012 8:10:57 PM
I put a 1" drinking straw in my chargemaster and it sped it up and made it more accurate.
usmcscout  [Team Member]
5/18/2012 9:47:08 PM
After a long drawn out call to tech support over last 2 days they claim its defective. so instead sending it in I returned it to cables wich wasn't to keen on exchange. said heck with it got the lyman dps 3 instead. so well see how this one works. ironically they had them on sale same as auto charge 229.00. chargemaster 369.99 unfortunately out my budget. thanks everyone for all the imput
steve4102  [Member]
5/19/2012 7:36:34 AM
so instead sending it in I returned it to cables wich wasn't to keen on exchange.


Sorry, don't mean to pry, but what exactly did Cabela's do for you?

As I said in my previous post, I have the Lyman 1200, I like it. Read my post again for what outside forces can affect the accuracy of the unit.

Good Luck.
usmcscout  [Team Member]
5/20/2012 2:14:26 AM
Originally Posted By steve4102:
so instead sending it in I returned it to cables which wasn't to keen on exchange.


Sorry, don't mean to pry, but what exactly did Cabela's do for you?

As I said in my previous post, I have the Lyman 1200, I like it. Read my post again for what outside forces can affect the accuracy of the unit.

Good Luck.


The wife bought the lnl auto charge as a surprise gift for getting all the "honey do's" done out in the barns and I returned it 12 days later. cabelas exchanged the unit for the Lyman dps3 unit. They said go find another or better and I could pay difference. I saw the Lyman dps3 with a sticker price of same as hornady unit. Apparently they miss marked the unit and chose to make it difficult. They mismarked the item, finally they gave in but hassled me about the return claiming the free bullets sticker was gone. Since the auto charge is not a free bullets item I kinda sighed so they sent an employee to verify and confirmed my stance. An hour total it took for a exchange. they did nothing more nothing less than their J.O.B But I did score a good deal on the Lyman unit and after testing several powders ball,flake, extruded, short extruded with random loads it was 100% acurite on all 75 charges down below a tenth so needless to say I am happy. I know its not a chargemaster or pact unit but got a baby on the way which we just found out is a "BOY" so couldn't swing the extra 100 or so for rcbs. since its only going to be used for precision loads as I use my forsner bench rest drop for bulk loads.

thanks everyone for all the input hope everyone is having great weekend!