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cincyar  [Member]
12/15/2009 5:39:43 PM EDT
I have 4 lbs of 700x and lots of 115 grain jacketed and 126 grain jacketed bullets and can not find load data please help me out . It is for a glock17
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afroman006  [Member]
12/15/2009 5:50:54 PM EDT
My Hornady, Lyman and Speer manuals all have loads from 700x. What manuals do you have?
cincyar  [Member]
12/15/2009 6:02:17 PM EDT
I have hornady and the net and did see anything can you post wat it says please
someassemblyrequired  [Team Member]
12/15/2009 6:23:09 PM EDT
Try here
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dryflash3  [Team Member]
12/15/2009 6:30:49 PM EDT
You forgot to say which cartridge, I'm guessing 9mm.

9mm, 125 gr JSP, 700X, WW brass, CCI 500. From Speer #10,

Start 4.1 grs, 1038 fps

Max 4.6 grs, 1087 fps

Begin loading with 4.1 grs and work up watching for pressure signs.

9mm, 115 gr JHP, 700X, Super Vel brass, CCI 500. From Sierra #2,

Start, 4.0 grs, 1150 fps

..........4.7 grs, 1250 fps

Max, 5.1 grs, 1300 fps

Begin loading with 4.0 grs and work up watching for pressure signs.

Good luck
RedFalconBill  [Team Member]
12/15/2009 6:53:47 PM EDT
700X meters like sh*t and there are better powders out there, but if you have a boat load of it, there you go.

With a 124gr to 130gr bullet, start at 4.0gr and do not go above 4.7gr.

For FMJ in this weight, I like my 9x19 to have an OAL of 1.15" +/-.

For a 115gr FMJ, I use 1.125" +/-.

For the 115gr bullet, you can also bump up the start load to 4.2gr and I would not go above 5.0gr.
rg1  [Member]
12/15/2009 8:31:40 PM EDT
From a 1990's IMR Reloading Guide:
9MM luger 4" barrel
Rem 115gr JHP––Rem 1 1/2 primer––col 1.110"––IMR 700X––4.7 grains––1130fps––32600 cup
Rem 124 gr fmj MC––-CCI 500 primer––col 1.135"––-IMR 700X––4.8 grains––1110fps––32600 cup
The Guide says reduce 10% and work up to these maximum loads.
cincyar  [Member]
12/16/2009 2:00:52 PM EDT
does anyone use 700x ? is it a good powder?
RedFalconBill  [Team Member]
12/16/2009 2:25:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cincyar:
does anyone use 700x ? is it a good powder?

It is a shotshell powder that has uses in handgun rounds.

There are, IMO, powders out there that work better in my progressive presses (which is why I said it meters like sh*t).

Still, it will take you where you want to go.

4.5 gr is a safe load and will give you over 1,500 loads per pound. This will give you a PF of ~130 to 135, which will work in all 9x19's out there.
dryflash3  [Team Member]
12/16/2009 6:52:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cincyar:
does anyone use 700x ? is it a good powder?

I bought 1 pound years ago.

Just found so many powders I liked better.

In 9mm I use Clays for cast bullet loads, full power jacketed loads I use Power Pistol, or TiteGroup.

My advice, use it up and try something else next time.
cincyar  [Member]
12/16/2009 7:14:54 PM EDT
I bought it because I ordered 2 eight pound jugs for 223 and saw this stuff super cheap so I bought an 8 pounder. I may have this stuff for a while if I don't buy another caliper to use it up.
cincyar  [Member]
1/6/2010 8:21:11 PM EDT
Anyone else? Use 700x
makintrax73  [Member]
1/7/2010 8:17:41 AM EDT
I've used it in 12ga loads for some things, and also for 45 acp with 200 lswc. Worked just fine in the shotgun, maybe a little dirty in the 45, but they were light plinking loads which I've heard burn dirtier that higher pressure loads. And I would agree that it does not meter that great and so I'm not sure I would use it in a progressive press. You'll find plenty of 700x recipes on Hodgon's site so burn it up in some plinking loads.
SCW  [Member]
1/7/2010 9:56:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By cincyar:
Anyone else? Use 700x

I found a really good deal on 15 pounds of the stuff about two years ago, so I've been trying to burn it up ever since. I use it in all my pistol loads and even in the 44mag (this is a REALLLLLY piss-poor magnum powder) so I've been getting pretty familiar with it. Load data is pretty sparce.

On the 9mm I load 4.0gr of 700x under a 124gr LRN. This has been a really nice under-max load that is great shooting through a CZ and Hi-Power, haven't tried it on the Kahr yet but don't anticipate issues.

for .45acp I use 4.3gr with a 230gr LRN, again well under max but a nice shooting round.

Here's an important note-

The Hodgdon website lists load data for the 700x, but much of it is flawed. They purchased the IMR lines of powders and according to their customer service, they did not re-shoot the loads to find maximum, pressures, etc. For example, if you look at the online load for a 44mag using 200gr lead, it will list a 4gr max. I loaded a few of these, but it seemed terribly light so I called and asked them if that was a good load. He checked and let me know that 10gr should be a better maximum load for that. That's 250% of the published load!!! BTW, a 4gr load will exit the barrel, but if I hadn't seen the dust fly I wouldn't have belived it. No recoil at all, just a muted pop sound. Sorta funny.

Same problem with the 9mm listing. They show (IIRC) a max load of 2.9 for the 124gr LRN, but I happen to have an old IMR book listing that load at about 4.8

I don't have any trouble with it metering through my stuff, it doesn't flow like a nice ball powder, but it's not a deal-breaker either. It's not the cleanest powder, but it's not Unique either. Data is hard to find and pretty poor when you find it, that's the biggest weakness I have found with it.
Assaulter  [Member]
1/7/2010 11:21:55 AM EDT
I use 700x for 200 grain LSWC in .45 It is a tack driver in my Kimber.
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