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 Load data for 38 spl 148 grain wadcutter
lospeed_hidrag2  [Member]
4/18/2009 3:10:41 PM
Hey guys, Ive searched but cant find it so Im asking here.

I need the load data for 148 grain wadcutters using unique or bullseye powder. I wanna push it about 850 FPS. Thanks for any help.
firewrench044  [Member]
4/18/2009 3:55:56 PM

Speer # 13 manual
6 inch barrel

148 gr BB-WC Speer P/N- 4605 ( bullet has very slight rounded tip)
coal 1.295
Unique 5.1 gr 981 fps
" 4.5 gr 868 fps

148 gr BB-WC
Bullseye 4.5 gr 933 fps
" 3.9 gr 8.13 fps
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148 gr HB-WC speer P/N - 4617
( seat bullet flush with case )
Bullseye 3.1 gr 799 fps
" 2.8 gr 741 fps

NO LISTING FOR Unique with flat nose WC
RJinks  [Member]
4/18/2009 4:17:11 PM
Isn't this the same slug you can load backwards and get one very nasty hollow point?
GHPorter  [Team Member]
4/18/2009 4:24:07 PM
Originally Posted By RJinks:
Isn't this the same slug you can load backwards and get one very nasty hollow point?


That's the "hollow-base" wadcutter.

I would have thought that just about ANY loading manual would have an entry for .38 SPL wadcutter loads. Just be careful about VERY light charges of Bullseye; there are stories about light charges causing dangerous conditions when the powder settles along the bottom of that rather spacious case. I always used a bit of kapok or a thin paper wad to keep the powder near the flash hole just to maintain consistent ignition. The point of these loads IS extreme light recoil for extreme accuracy, right?
lospeed_hidrag2  [Member]
4/18/2009 6:27:11 PM
Appreciate the help guys.
finishman2000  [Team Member]
4/18/2009 7:53:28 PM
my standard load is 2.8gr bullseye with 148gr hbwc. this works my s-w m-52's just fine. not sure what the velocity is but has been my standard since i started loading them when i was 15...now 44.
nukemmc  [Team Member]
4/18/2009 7:58:07 PM
Originally Posted By finishman2000:
my standard load is 2.8gr bullseye with 148gr hbwc. this works my s-w m-52's just fine. not sure what the velocity is but has been my standard since i started loading them when i was 15...now 44.


Concur

2.8 for 25 yards and 3.0 for 50 in my pre-K38 S&W Target Masterpiece. I have shot cleans on Timed with it more than once.
lospeed_hidrag2  [Member]
4/18/2009 8:38:33 PM
I've been loading 148gr HBWCs with 3.0 bullseye. It seems to perform fine, not sure of the velocity though.

I've got a bullet cast that makes solid 148gr wadcutters. What would be the best load for those if you had to use them for self defense?
twodownzero  [Member]
4/18/2009 9:09:59 PM
I have used Clays in .38 for light loads.
dryflash3  [Team Member]
4/18/2009 9:44:42 PM
38 Special, I use 2.7 grs Bullseye with a 148 gr HBWC.

357, 3.0 grs Bullseye with a 148 gr HBWC.

PalmettoSharpshooter  [Team Member]
4/18/2009 9:52:40 PM
With a 148 grain HBWC use 2.7 grains of Bullseye. It's a classic great load.
Guncrzy  [Member]
4/18/2009 10:38:12 PM
I'm another one that loads 2.8 grains of Bullseye with 148 grain hollow base wadcutters. I just shot a PPC Match today with my loads and I am happy with the results. I also shoot Bullseye with the same loads but to save money I used a 22 today for that match.
lospeed_hidrag2  [Member]
4/18/2009 10:56:05 PM
What kinds of velocities do you guys get with 2.7 grains of bullseye with the 148 HBCW?

Like I said before I use 3.0 grains and Im trying to get a general idea of velocities. My chrono shit out on me.
dryflash3  [Team Member]
4/18/2009 11:00:46 PM
I don't care about velocity. I load for accuracy with this load.
Road-kill  [Member]
4/19/2009 12:48:18 AM
Originally Posted By lospeed_hidrag2:
I've been loading 148gr HBWCs with 3.0 bullseye. It seems to perform fine, not sure of the velocity though.

I've got a bullet cast that makes solid 148gr wadcutters. What would be the best load for those if you had to use them for self defense?


Keep them for paper thugs. and practice.

Get some 158gr hp jacketed for real thugs. Work up a load using proper procedures.

If your doing it to save money??? What value do you put on your life ?
lospeed_hidrag2  [Member]
4/19/2009 1:10:57 AM
Originally Posted By Road-kill:
Originally Posted By lospeed_hidrag2:
I've been loading 148gr HBWCs with 3.0 bullseye. It seems to perform fine, not sure of the velocity though.

I've got a bullet cast that makes solid 148gr wadcutters. What would be the best load for those if you had to use them for self defense?


Keep them for paper thugs. and practice.

Get some 158gr hp jacketed for real thugs. Work up a load using proper procedures.

If your doing it to save money??? What value do you put on your life ?


Ive got quite a few 125grain HPs loaded. Im just considering 148 WCs for if worst comes to worst. If all my 9mm, 45, 5.56, 12 gauge is gone. Ill still be able to reload .38 148gr WCs. Ive got tons of scrap lead, thousands of primers, cases and pounds of powder.
Elwood_Blues  [Member]
4/19/2009 4:16:32 PM
I used 2.7 grains BE for my 52-2 fora long time, then tried out 3.0 gr. 231after I ran out of BE and got pretty good groups.
finishman2000  [Team Member]
4/20/2009 9:14:54 AM
i found through trial that when i have my reloader set up for 2.8 bullseye i can go directly to 231 and make no setting changes. it came in at 3.0 grs which is pretty much the standrd for that powder.
NA_Wreckdiver  [Team Member]
4/20/2009 12:55:11 PM
Originally Posted By dryflash3:
38 Special, I use 2.7 grs Bullseye with a 148 gr HBWC.

357, 3.0 grs Bullseye with a 148 gr HBWC.



SAME HERE...
mlg123  [Member]
4/21/2009 1:28:36 PM
I've been running 2.5 gr Bullseye with the Speer 148gr BBWCs out of a 4" Python. The load is a little slower than most like but will out perform most shooter's abilities and is extremely mild/pleasant to shoot. Although it is a bit on the lite side, I have never had an over flash or detonation issue with this load and have been shooting it for over 40 years.

MLG