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 What powder to use for .223?
dangerdan  [Member]
5/15/2008 1:01:47 AM
Want to get back into reloading all the .223 brass I have laying in my room next time I go on leave. I was just wanting everyones opinion on what powder I should use for the best consistancy and all that god mumbo-jumbo.

Thanks
ma96782  [Team Member]
5/15/2008 1:14:27 AM

IMHO.....you should come up with a "criteria list" for your "ultimate" powder and see if it all fits together......otherwise, all you'll end up with, is a bunch of suggestions.

How YOU choose a powder is your decision. For ME......here are some of my criteria.......

1) Does it meter well? I prefer Ball powders. Because, I don't get the "Ka-chunk," like when loading with a "stick powder."
2) Is it available in 8 lb containers?
3) Is it widely available and usually in stock??
4) Am I paying a "premium" price?
5) Can it be used with multiple calibers and firearms? I'd hate to have a powder that will only be used in one firearm.
6) Is the gas pressure curve correct for my gas guns (very important with an M1)?
7) Is it known to be accurate in that caliber?
8) Is it dirty?
9) How does it fill the case? I don't like to mess with compressed loads.
10) Have I heard of problems with it?

Take it FWIW......it's just my .02.

Aloha, Mark
Mike_Mills  [Team Member]
5/15/2008 2:34:36 AM
Varget for the heavier bullets such as this loading:

24.0 Varget
Hornady 75 gr HPBT-M bullet seated to 2.245" OAL (magazine length)
Winchester small rifle primer


Ramshot's TAC powder meters very well, if that's an issue for you.
50cal  [Team Member]
5/15/2008 2:51:26 AM
I use BL(C)-2 with good results.
SORT308  [Member]
5/15/2008 3:18:32 AM
I have good results with Varget Powder. My rifle like 24gr with the Hornady 75gr bullet, but I'm using Remington 7 1/2 Small Rifle Primers. Have a friend that has had good results with Tac Powder.
Valkyrie  [Team Member]
5/15/2008 6:42:00 AM
I use 24grs of Varget under 77gr SMK's seated to 2.250" for service rifle shooting. Varget seems to be a bit on the dirty side though. When Im done with this last can I might try RE-15.
AeroE  [Moderator]
5/15/2008 6:47:48 AM
One of these days I'm going to count the number of gunpowders used in .223 Rem loads; there's a pile.

My recommendation is to pick a gunpowder that fills the case well, and falls into the right burning range for the weight of bullet being loaded. The range of bullet weights is broad for this cartridge and if you choose to shoot across the range from 40 to 80 grains, two gunpowders will give the best overall results.

The next detail to consider is whether your choice absolutely must meter like water through a drum measure. In that case, your choices are narrowed to ball powders and extruded powders with the smallest grain size.

Once you figure all that out, just pick about any suitable gunpowder on the market and you won't go far wrong. Besides, you're going to shoot it up, so it's not like you're married to the first choice, and once that one is used up you have first hand experience with that gunpowder.

All that probably doesn't seem like it's much help, so try these - RE-15 or Varget for bullets weighing from 52 to 80 grains, and H4895, H322, W748, H335, IMR 4198, or Benchmark for bullets weighing from 40 to 60 grains.

GlockFace  [Member]
5/15/2008 7:12:51 AM
2015
BlacksheepEG  [Member]
5/15/2008 7:16:20 AM
I use 77 gr with 24.2gr Reloader-15
Norecoil1  [Team Member]
5/15/2008 10:03:02 AM
IMR 4064
spqrzilla  [Member]
5/15/2008 10:51:08 AM
There are already a couple of identical "what powder to use?" threads just on the first page of the topic. Like all powder selection request threads, this one will end up with a list of powders not unlike all the lists of powders you'll find in any reloading manual.

We've got a lot of suitable powders for .223 Remington that are all very good, there is no "magic" powder.
7zero1  [Team Member]
5/15/2008 11:07:21 AM

Originally Posted By spqrzilla:
There are already a couple of identical "what powder to use?" threads just on the first page of the topic. Like all powder selection request threads, this one will end up with a list of powders not unlike all the lists of powders you'll find in any reloading manual.

We've got a lot of suitable powders for .223 Remington that are all very good, there is no "magic" powder.


Sir, JMHO VV N540 is as close to magic in this cartridge as it comes! Try it. 7zero1, out.
DS11M  [Member]
5/15/2008 12:02:12 PM
I use H335 with good results...
RedFalconBill  [Team Member]
5/15/2008 12:25:20 PM
god Mumbo-jumbo???

You can use anything from H-4198 through RL-15.

What is your criteria because you are being too vauge right now.

If all you want is one, do-it-all, answer then I say:

For M-193/M-855 type loads:

AA-2230
H-335
TAC

For MK262 type loads:

Varget
AA-2520
RL-15

YMMV.
CherokeeT  [Member]
5/15/2008 12:35:28 PM

Originally Posted By RedFalconBill:
god Mumbo-jumbo???
If all you want is one, do-it-all, answer then I say:

For M-193/M-855 type loads:

AA-2230
H-335
TAC

For MK262 type loads:

Varget
AA-2520
RL-15

YMMV.


Agree.........
Meadowmuffin  [Member]
5/15/2008 1:17:41 PM
How do those M193 powders act in terms of flash. I suspect that many domestic powder mfg's do not factor in flash. Some overseas powders like that used un prvi have little flash. Something that can be usefull at night such that you are not blinded by your own smoke pole



In fact, I wonder if such testing has ever been done.
SPTiger  [Team Member]
5/15/2008 2:10:06 PM
For my 55 grain loads I have always used H335, for my heavy bullet loads I use Varget.
dangerdan  [Member]
5/15/2008 8:38:54 PM
Thanks, I forgot to hit on that. I'm reloading match rounds so yeah, Mk262 type round with 77gr. SMKs.

Thankyou everyone that have gave their input.
norseman1  [Team Member]
5/15/2008 11:34:26 PM
If you only want to have one or two powders, get TAC for the stuff 60+ gr and heavier, use Win748 or H335 for the stuff under 60gr. Both will meter almost identically, but, have different properties.

TAC is not as temp sensitive and is a bit slower burning.

W748/H335 are faster and work better with lighter bullets.


Depending on how much brass you have, get it all resized/trimmed/cleaned and go to town!!!
oneshotoneyote  [Member]
5/16/2008 1:59:21 AM
+1 for H335 meters very well, plus it shoots good

Justin