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txharleyrider  [Member]
5/13/2008 4:32:37 PM EST
I loaded up some .45 loads with 230g plated round nose...with 4.5g what my book said but i think it's going to be too lite. A While back I loaded the same bullets with 4.5g of Unique and they didn't do to well....lot of FTE causing some pretty bad jams. I also have some of these new loads with 5.5 of tight group...think this may be too much? I will be going to the range tomorrow to check them. The loads from a while back I had also loaded some with 5.5 of Unique and they all shot fine.
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fastluck13  [Member]
5/13/2008 5:18:46 PM EST
Look out on that 5.5 Titegroup. Hodgdon site has that way over max....

http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp
MINNshooter  [Member]
5/13/2008 5:50:43 PM EST
I load Berry's plated with 4.5 gn of Titegroup. Berry's website states, under the frequently asked questions, that for their plated bullets, you should use lower level data for a fmj of same weight and profile. Hodgdon's website lists Titegroup at 4.4 to 4.8 gns for a 230 gn FMJ. I use the 230 gn plated RN. My experiences with 4.5 gns are great, low recoil, and no malfunctions through my Taurus PT1911.

Disclaimer: I am new to reloading for auto handguns and have only put approximately 75 rounds of these reloads through my gun. I have approx. 500 rounds through the gun and have had NO malfuntions with any factory either. I have not had a chance to chrono these loads either.
dryflash3  [Team Member]
5/13/2008 5:53:51 PM EST
I'm at 5.2 grs TiteGroup with a Cast SWC in 45 Auto.

This load makes major, and is very accurate.

the_ak_kid  [Team Member]
5/13/2008 6:41:52 PM EST
I'm loadin' 5.6 grs of Titegroup, and 200 grain XTP's.

Warm, but not terribly hot, and ACCURATE as all hell.

5.7 was border line hot, and accuracy started to drop off for me.

199  [Team Member]
5/13/2008 7:02:34 PM EST
Unique and Titegroup are totally different powders. You cannot use the performance of one to predict the performance of the other – and you certainly don’t want to be mixing load data.

4.5 grains of Titegroup behind a Ranier 230 plated bullet works great in my H&K USPc.
austin247  [Member]
5/14/2008 4:40:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By fastluck13:
Look out on that 5.5 Titegroup. Hodgdon site has that way over max....

http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp


+1

Hodgdon shows the max load for 230 grain to be 4.8. My most accurate .45 load has been 4.5 Titegroup for 230LRN, OAL 1.240
trwoprod  [Team Member]
5/14/2008 7:14:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By txharleyrider:
I loaded up some .45 loads with 230g plated round nose...with 4.5g what my book said but i think it's going to be too lite. A While back I loaded the same bullets with 4.5g of Unique and they didn't do to well....lot of FTE causing some pretty bad jams. I also have some of these new loads with 5.5 of tight group...think this may be too much? I will be going to the range tomorrow to check them. The loads from a while back I had also loaded some with 5.5 of Unique and they all shot fine.


You will do fine with 4.5 grains.
Scalce  [Member]
5/14/2008 7:51:35 AM EST
My 230 LRN rounds are loaded with 4.4 grains of TG.

I would say you should pull the ones you loaded at 5.5

My standard 45 load is 200 LSWV with 4.6 grains of TG out of my 1911.
COSteve  [Team Member]
5/14/2008 10:19:00 AM EST
Put down your tools and back slowly away from your reloading area!

Do not shoot your 5.5grn loads as they are above 45+P levels and you're asking for a case failure! You are not practicing safe reloading practices and you don't seem to understand the issues with different pistol powders. 5.5grns of Unique does not equal 5.5grns of TiteGroup!!

Pull the bullets and start again by first buying a reloading book and reading it completely, then read it again. You can't safely produce ammo by just guessing.
trwoprod  [Team Member]
5/17/2008 11:24:11 AM EST
Updates? Do they call you "stumpy" now or did you do the safe thing?
MonkeyGrip  [Team Member]
5/17/2008 12:10:54 PM EST
I use 6.1 and even 6.2 gr of Titegroup with Berry's 185 gr HOLLOW Base, round nose 45 ACP bullets.
And this just made major, loaded to an oal of 1.250-in.
COSteve  [Team Member]
5/17/2008 12:45:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By MonkeyGrip:
I use 6.1 and even 6.2 gr of Titegroup with Berry's 185 gr HOLLOW Base, round nose 45 ACP bullets.
And this just made major, loaded to an oal of 1.250-in.

There is a huge difference between a 185grn and 230grn powder charge.
extek  [Member]
5/17/2008 4:12:54 PM EST
230 gn ranier with 4.6 titegroup seated to 1.255 makes 170 PF. good load
40five  [Member]
5/17/2008 4:28:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By COSteve:
Put down your tools and back slowly away from your reloading area!

Do not shoot your 5.5grn loads as they are above 45+P levels and you're asking for a case failure! You are not practicing safe reloading practices and you don't seem to understand the issues with different pistol powders. 5.5grns of Unique does not equal 5.5grns of TiteGroup!!

Pull the bullets and start again by first buying a reloading book and reading it completely, then read it again. You can't safely produce ammo by just guessing.


+1 Very good advice.
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