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Depriming once fired PMC brass....
10/23/2011 4:02:04 PM
FWIW, the Lee press and die works just fine....no reason to resort to a hammer and punch. Just thought I'd passed that along in case others were looking at reloading this ammo.
10/23/2011 9:07:50 PM
A friend has a Lee press. Really cheap for what he paid for it. The only problem for him has been that he has bent or broken many depriming pins. Bang for the buck wise, I still think it is a decent press. Keep in mind that the brass he/we have been working with was military primer crimped. I think that puts a lot of extra added stress on the depriming pins. They have only lasted so long and then............
Using regular brass ( non crimped ), don`t see why anyone would have any problems. Their depriming pin setup seems to be MUCH more robust than the RCBS equipment has that he also uses.
Using regular brass ( non crimped ), don`t see why anyone would have any problems. Their depriming pin setup seems to be MUCH more robust than the RCBS equipment has that he also uses.
10/24/2011 8:33:14 AM
Originally Posted By Xringlover:
A friend has a Lee press. Really cheap for what he paid for it. The only problem for him has been that he has bent or broken many depriming pins. Bang for the buck wise, I still think it is a decent press. Keep in mind that the brass he/we have been working with was military primer crimped. I think that puts a lot of extra added stress on the depriming pins. They have only lasted so long and then............
Using regular brass ( non crimped ), don`t see why anyone would have any problems. Their depriming pin setup seems to be MUCH more robust than the RCBS equipment has that he also uses.
A friend has a Lee press. Really cheap for what he paid for it. The only problem for him has been that he has bent or broken many depriming pins. Bang for the buck wise, I still think it is a decent press. Keep in mind that the brass he/we have been working with was military primer crimped. I think that puts a lot of extra added stress on the depriming pins. They have only lasted so long and then............
Using regular brass ( non crimped ), don`t see why anyone would have any problems. Their depriming pin setup seems to be MUCH more robust than the RCBS equipment has that he also uses.
No doubt...I guess there are different types of crimps put on pockets depending on the maker? I know this variety has to be decrimped with a de-burring tool prior to re-priming. Must be a weak crimp.
10/24/2011 10:57:35 AM
The older staked primers are one of the earliest types of crimps on brass to hold the primers in and can be just as hard as the newer ring crimp that's in use now. The only way to get away from it is to buy commercial brass without crimps on the primer pockets.
10/24/2011 6:34:08 PM
Have you checked run out in your sized cases and loaded rounds? My lee press has runout up the ass on my case necks...as much as .002 and on loaded rounds as much as .008 and that's with Amax's . I have to mark the high spots on the case and turn it the opposite way and resize it to get it to zero-001 neck runout and have to find the high spots on the loaded rounds and tap them down and correct the runout to within .001 It's alot of work but Im a cheap ass and cant afford the high $$ 50 presses plus I got more time than money.
10/24/2011 9:29:12 PM
Originally Posted By 50_Shooter:
The older staked primers are one of the earliest types of crimps on brass to hold the primers in and can be just as hard as the newer ring crimp that's in use now. The only way to get away from it is to buy commercial brass without crimps on the primer pockets.
The older staked primers are one of the earliest types of crimps on brass to hold the primers in and can be just as hard as the newer ring crimp that's in use now. The only way to get away from it is to buy commercial brass without crimps on the primer pockets.
I really hate those 3 ( 120 degrees apart ) pattern staked in primer crimps. My Wilson primer pocket reamer seems to get caught on the raised areas and gives me fits trying to ream them out.
10/25/2011 8:27:09 AM
Originally Posted By bcrich:
Have you checked run out in your sized cases and loaded rounds? My lee press has runout up the ass on my case necks...as much as .002 and on loaded rounds as much as .008 and that's with Amax's . I have to mark the high spots on the case and turn it the opposite way and resize it to get it to zero-001 neck runout and have to find the high spots on the loaded rounds and tap them down and correct the runout to within .001 It's alot of work but Im a cheap ass and cant afford the high $$ 50 presses plus I got more time than money.
Have you checked run out in your sized cases and loaded rounds? My lee press has runout up the ass on my case necks...as much as .002 and on loaded rounds as much as .008 and that's with Amax's . I have to mark the high spots on the case and turn it the opposite way and resize it to get it to zero-001 neck runout and have to find the high spots on the loaded rounds and tap them down and correct the runout to within .001 It's alot of work but Im a cheap ass and cant afford the high $$ 50 presses plus I got more time than money.
Naw....I have yet to get into this area reloading, as far as precision goes. Just loading and shooting at this point.
10/25/2011 12:24:42 PM
Xringlover,
I found that starting out slow or even getting them started by hand is best when reaming the staked primer crimps, if you have a clean line to follow it goes smooth. Those are also the easiest to screw up as the stakes are deeper in the brass and people tend to remove to much material trying to get rid of them, just need to remember that all you need is the mouth cleaned up enough to get the primer in.
I found that starting out slow or even getting them started by hand is best when reaming the staked primer crimps, if you have a clean line to follow it goes smooth. Those are also the easiest to screw up as the stakes are deeper in the brass and people tend to remove to much material trying to get rid of them, just need to remember that all you need is the mouth cleaned up enough to get the primer in.
10/25/2011 6:57:20 PM
Originally Posted By molardog:
Naw....I have yet to get into this area reloading, as far as precision goes. Just loading and shooting at this point.
Originally Posted By bcrich:
Have you checked run out in your sized cases and loaded rounds? My lee press has runout up the ass on my case necks...as much as .002 and on loaded rounds as much as .008 and that's with Amax's . I have to mark the high spots on the case and turn it the opposite way and resize it to get it to zero-001 neck runout and have to find the high spots on the loaded rounds and tap them down and correct the runout to within .001 It's alot of work but Im a cheap ass and cant afford the high $$ 50 presses plus I got more time than money.
Have you checked run out in your sized cases and loaded rounds? My lee press has runout up the ass on my case necks...as much as .002 and on loaded rounds as much as .008 and that's with Amax's . I have to mark the high spots on the case and turn it the opposite way and resize it to get it to zero-001 neck runout and have to find the high spots on the loaded rounds and tap them down and correct the runout to within .001 It's alot of work but Im a cheap ass and cant afford the high $$ 50 presses plus I got more time than money.
Naw....I have yet to get into this area reloading, as far as precision goes. Just loading and shooting at this point.
That's why I got the lee also, just for plinker ammo but with time and work you can make some good match grade ammo with it. Have fun and be safe!
10/25/2011 7:05:19 PM
Originally Posted By 50_Shooter:
Xringlover,
I found that starting out slow or even getting them started by hand is best when reaming the staked primer crimps, if you have a clean line to follow it goes smooth. Those are also the easiest to screw up as the stakes are deeper in the brass and people tend to remove to much material trying to get rid of them, just need to remember that all you need is the mouth cleaned up enough to get the primer in.
Xringlover,
I found that starting out slow or even getting them started by hand is best when reaming the staked primer crimps, if you have a clean line to follow it goes smooth. Those are also the easiest to screw up as the stakes are deeper in the brass and people tend to remove to much material trying to get rid of them, just need to remember that all you need is the mouth cleaned up enough to get the primer in.
Thank you very much for that tidbit of info!
I will give that suggestion of yours a try and see how it goes! 
