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FS2000 tactical. Have $$ need to be sold on it UPDATE: GOT ONE
10/16/2011 5:04:47 PM
I was at a local shop finger banging this beauty and I'm ready to go all in. I need some comments from owners on why I should go with it. Kind of push me over the edge. A nudge. Or a swift kick in the ass not to?
BTW: 2300.00 cash OTD a good buy?
See further down.
BTW: 2300.00 cash OTD a good buy?
See further down.
10/16/2011 5:10:18 PM
Do you want to train with it? Tactical reloads are not my favorite as rifle will not allow drop free operation without grinding the mag seal out.
10/16/2011 5:39:12 PM
This is more of a "want for the collection" purchase. I can't use it as my patrol rifle on duty so no. No training with it. .
10/16/2011 5:41:23 PM
If you search on here you will see a bunch of mixed reviews. Personally I'm in the group that doesn't like them. I know two people who have them which is a very small number.
First step if you get one is to throw away the mag that comes with it. As in don't even take it from the gun store. The ones my friends got were junk. Major issues with things like double feeding. First friend got one of the early ones and something broke around the bolt carrier almost right away. FN fixed it and when he asked about buying a replacement set to have on hand they quoted him something really high. Second friend has one that jams way too often.
For the money I could have a nice ar-15 with a quality optic and some other things like a quality sling, extra mags, etc. Hell I could go buy a really nice ar like the kac or larue obr lite.
If the gun was closer to a grand instead of around 2 I'd say they might have something interesting. For its price I'd pass or go with another bull pup if that is what you want.
First step if you get one is to throw away the mag that comes with it. As in don't even take it from the gun store. The ones my friends got were junk. Major issues with things like double feeding. First friend got one of the early ones and something broke around the bolt carrier almost right away. FN fixed it and when he asked about buying a replacement set to have on hand they quoted him something really high. Second friend has one that jams way too often.
For the money I could have a nice ar-15 with a quality optic and some other things like a quality sling, extra mags, etc. Hell I could go buy a really nice ar like the kac or larue obr lite.
If the gun was closer to a grand instead of around 2 I'd say they might have something interesting. For its price I'd pass or go with another bull pup if that is what you want.
10/16/2011 5:48:50 PM
Originally Posted By ccosby:
If you search on here you will see a bunch of mixed reviews. Personally I'm in the group that doesn't like them. I know two people who have them which is a very small number.
For the money I could have a nice ar-15 with a quality optic and some other things like a quality sling, extra mags, etc. Hell I could go buy a really nice ar like the kac or larue obr lite.
If you search on here you will see a bunch of mixed reviews. Personally I'm in the group that doesn't like them. I know two people who have them which is a very small number.
For the money I could have a nice ar-15 with a quality optic and some other things like a quality sling, extra mags, etc. Hell I could go buy a really nice ar like the kac or larue obr lite.
pretty much what he said.
I've never been impressed with them. We demo'd them and shot it quite a bit, and to me it seemed overly bulky, the trigger was weird feeling, and it felt cheap. For me it didn't offer anything an AR can't do except that it's literally not an AR.
If you got the money to spend and its gonna be a range curiosity then I'd say go for it.
YMMV
10/16/2011 5:52:05 PM
I personally don't care for them...
With that kind of cash why don't you just pick up a SCAR-16S? I love mine
With that kind of cash why don't you just pick up a SCAR-16S? I love mine
10/16/2011 6:32:35 PM
New in the Box? Like New? used? What condition?
I have one and and like mine, yes it has it's pros and cons, but it's a fine bullpup.
The tactical I feel is the better choice, the rail make it easy to mount an optic of your choice.
I put on a Insight ISM-V (red dot with co-witnessed laser) sort of a spacing looking optic on a spacing looking rifle.
Black or Green?
If used make sure someone hasn't buggered up the trigger group by garage gunsmithing it to make a smoother pull.
Any parts warn or missing (if used)?
I've always liked bullpup designs and have never found one that really peak my interest like the FS2000, for one you can shoot it left or right handed. it's short with a good length of barrel, no loss of velocity for a short package. AUG's just never did much for me. It's all personal preference. If you like it buy it, just be aware you might not ever get the money out of it down the road. Many dealers have to buy so many PS90's and FS2000's to get SCARs. They have a following, but it's small, go in knowing that.
As one poster stated they aren't for everyone, for the money I'd get a SCAR, but I have both (SCAR and FS2000) so I like it as a good addition to my collection. Actually I got the FS2000 first before the SCAR. I just like FNH products I have quite a few of them.
I don't think I'd ever sell my mid version Tactical FS2000. I've never had any problems feeding, ejecting, no jamming at all etc, yeah it won't take a PMAG, boo hoo, I have so many standard AR mags that's not a problem. Many remove the mag gasket, but I like the idea and don't find it a problem. But I also have 3 Noveske AR15's, a SCAR and they would be my first choice in most cases.
I have one and and like mine, yes it has it's pros and cons, but it's a fine bullpup.
The tactical I feel is the better choice, the rail make it easy to mount an optic of your choice.
I put on a Insight ISM-V (red dot with co-witnessed laser) sort of a spacing looking optic on a spacing looking rifle.
Black or Green?
If used make sure someone hasn't buggered up the trigger group by garage gunsmithing it to make a smoother pull.
Any parts warn or missing (if used)?
I've always liked bullpup designs and have never found one that really peak my interest like the FS2000, for one you can shoot it left or right handed. it's short with a good length of barrel, no loss of velocity for a short package. AUG's just never did much for me. It's all personal preference. If you like it buy it, just be aware you might not ever get the money out of it down the road. Many dealers have to buy so many PS90's and FS2000's to get SCARs. They have a following, but it's small, go in knowing that.
As one poster stated they aren't for everyone, for the money I'd get a SCAR, but I have both (SCAR and FS2000) so I like it as a good addition to my collection. Actually I got the FS2000 first before the SCAR. I just like FNH products I have quite a few of them.
I don't think I'd ever sell my mid version Tactical FS2000. I've never had any problems feeding, ejecting, no jamming at all etc, yeah it won't take a PMAG, boo hoo, I have so many standard AR mags that's not a problem. Many remove the mag gasket, but I like the idea and don't find it a problem. But I also have 3 Noveske AR15's, a SCAR and they would be my first choice in most cases.
10/16/2011 6:50:58 PM
I'm a fan and that is not a good price at all for that rifle.
I haven't looked at the market in a couple of years but I bought mine used within 6 months of their 'intro' date and paid $1850 for it, it's one of the first 50 serial numbers. I've seen them as low as $1500 on the used market but that was a few years ago.
pros:
They're extremely reliable and don't need much/any maintenance, the overall package is shorter than an SBR and retains a full length (17.4") barrel, it's a short stroke piston gun so the action stays much cleaner than an AR, if you reload it's easy on your brass and makes it easier to collect since the just trickle out the front.
cons:
Grip angle sucks, trigger can be made acceptable with another $50 spent, expensive to buy spare parts (although I've needed nothing in 4-5 yrs of ownership and ~5000 rounds shot), FN isn't known for being kind to their orphan products in the civilian marketplace so ymmv.
I like mine and don't expect to sell it but I sure wouldn't pay $2300 for it (but I wouldn't spend that on a SCAR either).
I haven't looked at the market in a couple of years but I bought mine used within 6 months of their 'intro' date and paid $1850 for it, it's one of the first 50 serial numbers. I've seen them as low as $1500 on the used market but that was a few years ago.
pros:
They're extremely reliable and don't need much/any maintenance, the overall package is shorter than an SBR and retains a full length (17.4") barrel, it's a short stroke piston gun so the action stays much cleaner than an AR, if you reload it's easy on your brass and makes it easier to collect since the just trickle out the front.
cons:
Grip angle sucks, trigger can be made acceptable with another $50 spent, expensive to buy spare parts (although I've needed nothing in 4-5 yrs of ownership and ~5000 rounds shot), FN isn't known for being kind to their orphan products in the civilian marketplace so ymmv.
I like mine and don't expect to sell it but I sure wouldn't pay $2300 for it (but I wouldn't spend that on a SCAR either).
10/16/2011 8:37:31 PM
I wouldn't pay near $2300..
$1600-1700 at the most
I bought one a few years ago for $1850 and I bought another a couple years ago for $1500
They are good, reliable rifles, along with being good for collection. For heavy use I'd go cheap and buy an AR or two
$1600-1700 at the most
I bought one a few years ago for $1850 and I bought another a couple years ago for $1500
They are good, reliable rifles, along with being good for collection. For heavy use I'd go cheap and buy an AR or two
10/16/2011 9:11:43 PM
I love the 2 I have! They are ultra reliable. I only use old wore Pre-ban 30 round steel USGI mags and have NEVER had a problem. The only thing ever to happen is when I used cheap crap ammo wolf or brown bear ( I cant remember witch). It would FTF, if I used it on the low power gas setting it was fine. I use the surplus M855 and have had great results. The only thing I have to say about the other bulpups is, if they are so great why are the company's not making them any more? The FS2000 is manufactured/supported by a world class company that has many current contracts with our military. There really is only one logical choice when it comes to a real battle ready bulpup, and it is the FS2000. 
10/16/2011 9:25:28 PM
Originally Posted By USMCRONIN:
New in the Box? Like New? used? What condition?
I have one and and like mine, yes it has it's pros and cons, but it's a fine bullpup.
The tactical I feel is the better choice, the rail make it easy to mount an optic of your choice.
I put on a Insight ISM-V (red dot with co-witnessed laser) sort of a spacing looking optic on a spacing looking rifle.
Black or Green?
If used make sure someone hasn't buggered up the trigger group by garage gunsmithing it to make a smoother pull.
Any parts warn or missing (if used)?
I've always liked bullpup designs and have never found one that really peak my interest like the FS2000, for one you can shoot it left or right handed. it's short with a good length of barrel, no loss of velocity for a short package. AUG's just never did much for me. It's all personal preference. If you like it buy it, just be aware you might not ever get the money out of it down the road. Many dealers have to buy so many PS90's and FS2000's to get SCARs. They have a following, but it's small, go in knowing that.
As one poster stated they aren't for everyone, for the money I'd get a SCAR, but I have both (SCAR and FS2000) so I like it as a good addition to my collection. Actually I got the FS2000 first before the SCAR. I just like FNH products I have quite a few of them.
I don't think I'd ever sell my mid version Tactical FS2000. I've never had any problems feeding, ejecting, no jamming at all etc, yeah it won't take a PMAG, boo hoo, I have so many standard AR mags that's not a problem. Many remove the mag gasket, but I like the idea and don't find it a problem. But I also have 3 Noveske AR15's, a SCAR and they would be my first choice in most cases.
New in the Box? Like New? used? What condition?
I have one and and like mine, yes it has it's pros and cons, but it's a fine bullpup.
The tactical I feel is the better choice, the rail make it easy to mount an optic of your choice.
I put on a Insight ISM-V (red dot with co-witnessed laser) sort of a spacing looking optic on a spacing looking rifle.
Black or Green?
If used make sure someone hasn't buggered up the trigger group by garage gunsmithing it to make a smoother pull.
Any parts warn or missing (if used)?
I've always liked bullpup designs and have never found one that really peak my interest like the FS2000, for one you can shoot it left or right handed. it's short with a good length of barrel, no loss of velocity for a short package. AUG's just never did much for me. It's all personal preference. If you like it buy it, just be aware you might not ever get the money out of it down the road. Many dealers have to buy so many PS90's and FS2000's to get SCARs. They have a following, but it's small, go in knowing that.
As one poster stated they aren't for everyone, for the money I'd get a SCAR, but I have both (SCAR and FS2000) so I like it as a good addition to my collection. Actually I got the FS2000 first before the SCAR. I just like FNH products I have quite a few of them.
I don't think I'd ever sell my mid version Tactical FS2000. I've never had any problems feeding, ejecting, no jamming at all etc, yeah it won't take a PMAG, boo hoo, I have so many standard AR mags that's not a problem. Many remove the mag gasket, but I like the idea and don't find it a problem. But I also have 3 Noveske AR15's, a SCAR and they would be my first choice in most cases.
The one I was quoted was new in the box with a Aimpoint and low mount, black, tactical (rails), one mag, cleaning kit and my choice of three cases the guy has in stock. Package deal so to speak.
Now I did fondle a SCAR while there and it did have some cool factor. I was looking for something other than a AR since I have 4 already (Colt, LMT, BCM, Bushmaster) along with a few more AR uppers (ten in all). Kind of "ARed" out.
Now I'm thinking about this, FS or SCAR? SCAR or FS? Crap..........
10/17/2011 12:56:34 AM
i love mine and think it's a fantastic gun with its only draw back being a less than fantastic trigger & a somewhat fragile charging handle . (and I have everything to compare it to...Aug, Scar, M4 , Hk93 etc...)
bulky yes, but conforms to your body in a very natural way and the ejection system for spent cartridge casings is a great feature that has numerous benefits that is not found in any other gun & a very important feature on a bullpup.
very fast intuitive target acquisition due to it's design etc...
and with the right set up, (tri-rail, sling, maybe nue trigger, eotech etc.. ) the fn fs2000 is bad ass IMHO
$2300.00 sounds high have they gone up? does it come with the tri-rail? (that would add another few hundred bucks to the price) aim point sounds good
seems to me you could do a little better
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=255430248 used for $1800.00
$1750 . blk w 60 rounds throuh it i'd jump on this one
I got mine slightly used with a eotech for $1850.00 then I added the tri rail and a vertical grip and sling which made a big difference
I'll never sell mine either
Scar or a Fn Fs2k? that's a tough one: the Scar is also fantastic. just be like the rest of us and get both but don't over pay
bulky yes, but conforms to your body in a very natural way and the ejection system for spent cartridge casings is a great feature that has numerous benefits that is not found in any other gun & a very important feature on a bullpup.
very fast intuitive target acquisition due to it's design etc...
and with the right set up, (tri-rail, sling, maybe nue trigger, eotech etc.. ) the fn fs2000 is bad ass IMHO
$2300.00 sounds high have they gone up? does it come with the tri-rail? (that would add another few hundred bucks to the price) aim point sounds good
seems to me you could do a little better
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=255430248 used for $1800.00
$1750 . blk w 60 rounds throuh it i'd jump on this one
I got mine slightly used with a eotech for $1850.00 then I added the tri rail and a vertical grip and sling which made a big difference
I'll never sell mine either
Scar or a Fn Fs2k? that's a tough one: the Scar is also fantastic. just be like the rest of us and get both but don't over pay
10/17/2011 5:11:32 AM
Originally Posted By cetane:
The only thing I have to say about the other bulpups is, if they are so great why are the company's not making them any more? The FS2000 is manufactured/supported by a world class company that has many current contracts with our military.
The only thing I have to say about the other bulpups is, if they are so great why are the company's not making them any more? The FS2000 is manufactured/supported by a world class company that has many current contracts with our military.
1: Lets see AUG's are still made for military contracts and are the main service rifles for more nations than the f2000 so that's a silly claim. However their american partner went to jail for machine gun shenanigans and they had a hard time selling a expensive rifle in a down market.
2: MSAR was run by a dumb dumb to put it politely from what former employees say.
3: IWI makes Tavors just not available here.
So they are still being made no need to hate on other bullpups man we are one little brotherhood afterall
. Different platforms for different tastes. Personally from handling a FS2000 I'll stick with my MSAR I don't like the toilet lid thingy you have to flip up to check the chamber. If I ever got one id definitely get one of those metal charging handles I think it was Judo chop who was making em, too many reports of those things breaking.
For the OP is it like a pelican case or something and what model aim point if you go with around $1700 for the rifle which a lot of people are talking is the ballpark that is $600 for the aimpoint, mount, and case, because 1 mag should be stock and well who cares about cleaning kits unless it's a dam nice one. If its one of the more expensive model aimpoints and you like aimpoints doesn't sound bad to me.
10/17/2011 5:49:12 AM
10/17/2011 3:27:08 PM
Are they really that expensive now? I got one as part of a series of trades. I love it but would never pay almost $2k for it.
I'm actually going to start using it in some competitions to see how it does.
I'm actually going to start using it in some competitions to see how it does.
10/17/2011 3:31:42 PM
To those who offered I thank you. I think I'm going to research this a bit more. After handling the 16S, I am now even more torn between the two regardless of price. Observer's thread on the detail cleaning was great info and made me lean that way at first. I'm not 100% in love with the FS sights. I've seen some put TROY, Magpul, Etc. front and rear BUIS on theirs along with an optic. The factory rear peep seems a bit too small.
Anyways, thanks for the advice and comments. I should be able to decide by the weekend. The shop owner offered to drop $150 off the price and let me pick between the Aimpoint Comp ML2 and the Eotech 512.
Anyways, thanks for the advice and comments. I should be able to decide by the weekend. The shop owner offered to drop $150 off the price and let me pick between the Aimpoint Comp ML2 and the Eotech 512.
10/17/2011 5:07:51 PM
Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
To those who offered I thank you. I think I'm going to research this a bit more. After handling the 16S, I am now even more torn between the two regardless of price. Observer's thread on the detail cleaning was great info and made me lean that way at first. I'm not 100% in love with the FS sights. I've seen some put TROY, Magpul, Etc. front and rear BUIS on theirs along with an optic. The factory rear peep seems a bit too small.
Anyways, thanks for the advice and comments. I should be able to decide by the weekend. The shop owner offered to drop $150 off the price and let me pick between the Aimpoint Comp ML2 and the Eotech 512.
To those who offered I thank you. I think I'm going to research this a bit more. After handling the 16S, I am now even more torn between the two regardless of price. Observer's thread on the detail cleaning was great info and made me lean that way at first. I'm not 100% in love with the FS sights. I've seen some put TROY, Magpul, Etc. front and rear BUIS on theirs along with an optic. The factory rear peep seems a bit too small.
Anyways, thanks for the advice and comments. I should be able to decide by the weekend. The shop owner offered to drop $150 off the price and let me pick between the Aimpoint Comp ML2 and the Eotech 512.
yes the sights are crap: I put yankee hill flip up buis on mine
10/18/2011 9:31:50 AM
What about TROY's new MICRO battlesights? Those sit pretty low and look as if they would be better for the FS2K.
10/18/2011 10:50:54 AM
Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
The one I was quoted was new in the box with a Aimpoint and low mount, black, tactical (rails), one mag, cleaning kit and my choice of three cases the guy has in stock. Package deal so to speak.
Now I did fondle a SCAR while there and it did have some cool factor. I was looking for something other than a AR since I have 4 already (Colt, LMT, BCM, Bushmaster) along with a few more AR uppers (ten in all). Kind of "ARed" out.
Now I'm thinking about this, FS or SCAR? SCAR or FS? Crap..........
Originally Posted By USMCRONIN:
New in the Box? Like New? used? What condition?
I have one and and like mine, yes it has it's pros and cons, but it's a fine bullpup.
The tactical I feel is the better choice, the rail make it easy to mount an optic of your choice.
I put on a Insight ISM-V (red dot with co-witnessed laser) sort of a spacing looking optic on a spacing looking rifle.
Black or Green?
If used make sure someone hasn't buggered up the trigger group by garage gunsmithing it to make a smoother pull.
Any parts warn or missing (if used)?
I've always liked bullpup designs and have never found one that really peak my interest like the FS2000, for one you can shoot it left or right handed. it's short with a good length of barrel, no loss of velocity for a short package. AUG's just never did much for me. It's all personal preference. If you like it buy it, just be aware you might not ever get the money out of it down the road. Many dealers have to buy so many PS90's and FS2000's to get SCARs. They have a following, but it's small, go in knowing that.
As one poster stated they aren't for everyone, for the money I'd get a SCAR, but I have both (SCAR and FS2000) so I like it as a good addition to my collection. Actually I got the FS2000 first before the SCAR. I just like FNH products I have quite a few of them.
I don't think I'd ever sell my mid version Tactical FS2000. I've never had any problems feeding, ejecting, no jamming at all etc, yeah it won't take a PMAG, boo hoo, I have so many standard AR mags that's not a problem. Many remove the mag gasket, but I like the idea and don't find it a problem. But I also have 3 Noveske AR15's, a SCAR and they would be my first choice in most cases.
New in the Box? Like New? used? What condition?
I have one and and like mine, yes it has it's pros and cons, but it's a fine bullpup.
The tactical I feel is the better choice, the rail make it easy to mount an optic of your choice.
I put on a Insight ISM-V (red dot with co-witnessed laser) sort of a spacing looking optic on a spacing looking rifle.
Black or Green?
If used make sure someone hasn't buggered up the trigger group by garage gunsmithing it to make a smoother pull.
Any parts warn or missing (if used)?
I've always liked bullpup designs and have never found one that really peak my interest like the FS2000, for one you can shoot it left or right handed. it's short with a good length of barrel, no loss of velocity for a short package. AUG's just never did much for me. It's all personal preference. If you like it buy it, just be aware you might not ever get the money out of it down the road. Many dealers have to buy so many PS90's and FS2000's to get SCARs. They have a following, but it's small, go in knowing that.
As one poster stated they aren't for everyone, for the money I'd get a SCAR, but I have both (SCAR and FS2000) so I like it as a good addition to my collection. Actually I got the FS2000 first before the SCAR. I just like FNH products I have quite a few of them.
I don't think I'd ever sell my mid version Tactical FS2000. I've never had any problems feeding, ejecting, no jamming at all etc, yeah it won't take a PMAG, boo hoo, I have so many standard AR mags that's not a problem. Many remove the mag gasket, but I like the idea and don't find it a problem. But I also have 3 Noveske AR15's, a SCAR and they would be my first choice in most cases.
The one I was quoted was new in the box with a Aimpoint and low mount, black, tactical (rails), one mag, cleaning kit and my choice of three cases the guy has in stock. Package deal so to speak.
Now I did fondle a SCAR while there and it did have some cool factor. I was looking for something other than a AR since I have 4 already (Colt, LMT, BCM, Bushmaster) along with a few more AR uppers (ten in all). Kind of "ARed" out.
Now I'm thinking about this, FS or SCAR? SCAR or FS? Crap..........
Between the FS2K and the SCAR, I'd say it's no contest.... get the SCAR. Great rifle.
10/18/2011 12:11:39 PM
Originally Posted By Strongbow:
Between the FS2K and the SCAR, I'd say it's no contest.... get the SCAR. Great rifle.
Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
The one I was quoted was new in the box with a Aimpoint and low mount, black, tactical (rails), one mag, cleaning kit and my choice of three cases the guy has in stock. Package deal so to speak.
Now I did fondle a SCAR while there and it did have some cool factor. I was looking for something other than a AR since I have 4 already (Colt, LMT, BCM, Bushmaster) along with a few more AR uppers (ten in all). Kind of "ARed" out.
Now I'm thinking about this, FS or SCAR? SCAR or FS? Crap..........
Originally Posted By USMCRONIN:
New in the Box? Like New? used? What condition?
I have one and and like mine, yes it has it's pros and cons, but it's a fine bullpup.
The tactical I feel is the better choice, the rail make it easy to mount an optic of your choice.
I put on a Insight ISM-V (red dot with co-witnessed laser) sort of a spacing looking optic on a spacing looking rifle.
Black or Green?
If used make sure someone hasn't buggered up the trigger group by garage gunsmithing it to make a smoother pull.
Any parts warn or missing (if used)?
I've always liked bullpup designs and have never found one that really peak my interest like the FS2000, for one you can shoot it left or right handed. it's short with a good length of barrel, no loss of velocity for a short package. AUG's just never did much for me. It's all personal preference. If you like it buy it, just be aware you might not ever get the money out of it down the road. Many dealers have to buy so many PS90's and FS2000's to get SCARs. They have a following, but it's small, go in knowing that.
As one poster stated they aren't for everyone, for the money I'd get a SCAR, but I have both (SCAR and FS2000) so I like it as a good addition to my collection. Actually I got the FS2000 first before the SCAR. I just like FNH products I have quite a few of them.
I don't think I'd ever sell my mid version Tactical FS2000. I've never had any problems feeding, ejecting, no jamming at all etc, yeah it won't take a PMAG, boo hoo, I have so many standard AR mags that's not a problem. Many remove the mag gasket, but I like the idea and don't find it a problem. But I also have 3 Noveske AR15's, a SCAR and they would be my first choice in most cases.
New in the Box? Like New? used? What condition?
I have one and and like mine, yes it has it's pros and cons, but it's a fine bullpup.
The tactical I feel is the better choice, the rail make it easy to mount an optic of your choice.
I put on a Insight ISM-V (red dot with co-witnessed laser) sort of a spacing looking optic on a spacing looking rifle.
Black or Green?
If used make sure someone hasn't buggered up the trigger group by garage gunsmithing it to make a smoother pull.
Any parts warn or missing (if used)?
I've always liked bullpup designs and have never found one that really peak my interest like the FS2000, for one you can shoot it left or right handed. it's short with a good length of barrel, no loss of velocity for a short package. AUG's just never did much for me. It's all personal preference. If you like it buy it, just be aware you might not ever get the money out of it down the road. Many dealers have to buy so many PS90's and FS2000's to get SCARs. They have a following, but it's small, go in knowing that.
As one poster stated they aren't for everyone, for the money I'd get a SCAR, but I have both (SCAR and FS2000) so I like it as a good addition to my collection. Actually I got the FS2000 first before the SCAR. I just like FNH products I have quite a few of them.
I don't think I'd ever sell my mid version Tactical FS2000. I've never had any problems feeding, ejecting, no jamming at all etc, yeah it won't take a PMAG, boo hoo, I have so many standard AR mags that's not a problem. Many remove the mag gasket, but I like the idea and don't find it a problem. But I also have 3 Noveske AR15's, a SCAR and they would be my first choice in most cases.
The one I was quoted was new in the box with a Aimpoint and low mount, black, tactical (rails), one mag, cleaning kit and my choice of three cases the guy has in stock. Package deal so to speak.
Now I did fondle a SCAR while there and it did have some cool factor. I was looking for something other than a AR since I have 4 already (Colt, LMT, BCM, Bushmaster) along with a few more AR uppers (ten in all). Kind of "ARed" out.
Now I'm thinking about this, FS or SCAR? SCAR or FS? Crap..........
Between the FS2K and the SCAR, I'd say it's no contest.... get the SCAR. Great rifle.
Same dealer wants $2699.99 for the SCAR 16S in black or tan.
10/18/2011 3:57:58 PM
I have the FS2k with the tri-rail. I mounted a EOTech 533 with a laser and flashlight as a heavy home defense gun.
The silhouette (How far the barrel sticks out) is less than a 1911 pistol in combat hold so is more compact than a pistol for close shooting.
The trigger is crappy and when trying to squeeze off a sniper shot it falls far short of the Geissele in my PWS but for fast close firing I can't tell the difference, works fine.
I replaced the charging handle with a custom aluminum one as some have reported if abused it may fail.
I wish the mags dropped and I don't like the bolt not holding open after the last round but this gun is such a natural hold ergonomically almost everyone that has tried it has fallen in love with the way it shoots and handles.
The gun shoots anything well. I was trying to figure out why a friends AR was jamming and it was crushing rounds big dents in various places. I put those in the FS2K and everyone fired. I have to switch the gas system to shoot wolf or it short strokes but once switched over it is 100% with that as well.
I have cleaned it a couple times to get a feel of how much maintenance will be required and I can say very little. The disassemble is downright amazing .
The gun looks like it would be almost clumsy yet seems to just melt into to your body and fit sweetly.. The brake is very effective for quick follow up shots.
The rear site is for back up only and I removed the front site so I could mount the laser in front of the 553.The 553 is quick disconnect so I can throw iron sites on fast if the battery went dead
It is not an AR and was never meant to be. Some simply do not like something different and that is fine. I bought one as a novelty; intended to try it and pass it on.
Snuck up and asked for a spot in the safe and it is a favorite close combat gun at the action area for me.
Think of it as a 30 round laser/light/holo pistol that can hit a button across the living room at 3:00AM.
Imagine waking up to the sound of a vehicle with four doors slamming and you grab this.
You will outnumber them 2 to 1
Wulfmann
The silhouette (How far the barrel sticks out) is less than a 1911 pistol in combat hold so is more compact than a pistol for close shooting.
The trigger is crappy and when trying to squeeze off a sniper shot it falls far short of the Geissele in my PWS but for fast close firing I can't tell the difference, works fine.
I replaced the charging handle with a custom aluminum one as some have reported if abused it may fail.
I wish the mags dropped and I don't like the bolt not holding open after the last round but this gun is such a natural hold ergonomically almost everyone that has tried it has fallen in love with the way it shoots and handles.
The gun shoots anything well. I was trying to figure out why a friends AR was jamming and it was crushing rounds big dents in various places. I put those in the FS2K and everyone fired. I have to switch the gas system to shoot wolf or it short strokes but once switched over it is 100% with that as well.
I have cleaned it a couple times to get a feel of how much maintenance will be required and I can say very little. The disassemble is downright amazing .
The gun looks like it would be almost clumsy yet seems to just melt into to your body and fit sweetly.. The brake is very effective for quick follow up shots.
The rear site is for back up only and I removed the front site so I could mount the laser in front of the 553.The 553 is quick disconnect so I can throw iron sites on fast if the battery went dead
It is not an AR and was never meant to be. Some simply do not like something different and that is fine. I bought one as a novelty; intended to try it and pass it on.
Snuck up and asked for a spot in the safe and it is a favorite close combat gun at the action area for me.
Think of it as a 30 round laser/light/holo pistol that can hit a button across the living room at 3:00AM.
Imagine waking up to the sound of a vehicle with four doors slamming and you grab this.
You will outnumber them 2 to 1
Wulfmann
10/18/2011 9:37:05 PM
I have a SCAR and the FS200 tactical and and standard, I would not recommend the standard due to the poor factory optic and plastic sling loop and rail.
The tactical is great and I love it. The sights work fine for me, no need to spend on better irons. I put a TA33 on mine and it's great. Trigger is awful.
I have several thousand various rounds through mine and it's been greta––even with the included mag, which has had no problems with any gun. It's a USGI mag with an FN logo floorplate.
I paid 1940 for the first and 1300 for the second with rebate, both new.
I'd take my FS over my SCAR16, but I like unique guns.
Sounds like an OK deal with the case, optic and tri rail, you could maybe do a little better. I thought the Eotech to be a little large for the gun, and the Aimpoint might be as well...just depends on you. I like the smaller optics.
The tactical is great and I love it. The sights work fine for me, no need to spend on better irons. I put a TA33 on mine and it's great. Trigger is awful.
I have several thousand various rounds through mine and it's been greta––even with the included mag, which has had no problems with any gun. It's a USGI mag with an FN logo floorplate.
I paid 1940 for the first and 1300 for the second with rebate, both new.
I'd take my FS over my SCAR16, but I like unique guns.
Sounds like an OK deal with the case, optic and tri rail, you could maybe do a little better. I thought the Eotech to be a little large for the gun, and the Aimpoint might be as well...just depends on you. I like the smaller optics.
10/18/2011 9:55:57 PM
I have a nice AR
A great SOCOM M1
and an FS2000
Guess which one I always get out of the safe?
Yup the FS2000
I just like it more than my other rifles.
Im kind of into the unusual
I really like the forward ejection.
FN makes a damn fine rifle
I like bull pups
I never warmed to the Aug style bullpup for some reason.
Cant really quantify why I like it. I just do.
Its a great shooter too.
Alot has been written about the gasket in the magwell.
Well it works fine. I can change mags with no problem
the stock trigger is a drawback but with a 25 dollar nutrigger installed it is actually better than my M1 .
Id say go ahead and get it.
10/18/2011 10:09:36 PM
Well, earlier today I stopped by the shop and fondled the FS2K some more. So much so that it followed me home. Since I still have cash left over, I may order a SCAR 16 in black on Friday (from another shop in the area). Holy crap, my wife is gonna go ape shit. 
I guess I am gonna get both.
Total was $2175.00 with a Eotech 512 and a nylon case. The store owner wanted to make the sale.
Since I still have cash left over, I may order a SCAR 16 in black on Friday (from another shop in the area). Holy crap, my wife is gonna go ape shit.
I guess I am gonna get both.
Total was $2175.00 with a Eotech 512 and a nylon case. The store owner wanted to make the sale.
10/18/2011 10:26:54 PM
Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
Well, earlier today I stopped by the shop and fondled the FS2K some more. So much so that it followed me home. Since I still have cash left over, I may order a SCAR 16 in black on Friday (from another shop in the area). Holy crap, my wife is gonna go ape shit.
I guess I am gonna get both.
Total was $2175.00 with a Eotech 512 and a nylon case. The store owner wanted to make the sale.
Well, earlier today I stopped by the shop and fondled the FS2K some more. So much so that it followed me home.
Since I still have cash left over, I may order a SCAR 16 in black on Friday (from another shop in the area). Holy crap, my wife is gonna go ape shit.
I guess I am gonna get both.
Total was $2175.00 with a Eotech 512 and a nylon case. The store owner wanted to make the sale.
You'll love it..
Get a Magpul follower for that factory mag and get a bunch of USGI mags with Magpul followers and you should be good to go
I also recommend an aluminum charging handle
10/19/2011 10:13:21 AM
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congrats!
wise decision
don't forget, aside from the Scar, your now going to need to get your official Sam Fisher tactical outfit for your new fn fs2k,
like the rest of us have, now that you've joined our club.
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congrats!
wise decision
don't forget, aside from the Scar, your now going to need to get your official Sam Fisher tactical outfit for your new fn fs2k,
like the rest of us have, now that you've joined our club.
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10/19/2011 11:03:09 AM
Originally Posted By AndyHk93M4:
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congrats! wise decision
don't forget, aside from the Scar, your now going to need to get your official Sam Fisher tactical outfit for your new fn fs2k,
like the rest of us have, now that you've joined our club.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b162/Guardians91240SX/splinter%20cell/PICT0366.jpg[/
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congrats!
wise decision
don't forget, aside from the Scar, your now going to need to get your official Sam Fisher tactical outfit for your new fn fs2k,
like the rest of us have, now that you've joined our club.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b162/Guardians91240SX/splinter%20cell/PICT0366.jpg[/
I was going to flame you for being a nerd. Then I remembered that I'm a nerd too. I was further saddened when I realized I thought your picture was awesome.
10/19/2011 12:37:37 PM
Originally Posted By AndyHk93M4:
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congrats! wise decision
don't forget, aside from the Scar, your now going to need to get your official Sam Fisher tactical outfit for your new fn fs2k,
like the rest of us have, now that you've joined our club.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b162/Guardians91240SX/splinter%20cell/PICT0366.jpg[/
[
congrats!
wise decision
don't forget, aside from the Scar, your now going to need to get your official Sam Fisher tactical outfit for your new fn fs2k,
like the rest of us have, now that you've joined our club.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b162/Guardians91240SX/splinter%20cell/PICT0366.jpg[/
as I scramble to go buy required wet suit and chest rig
10/19/2011 1:52:23 PM
WTF is that? Theres no way Im getting in one of those costumes.
10/19/2011 8:15:09 PM
Originally Posted By AndyHk93M4:
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congrats! wise decision
don't forget, aside from the Scar, your now going to need to get your official Sam Fisher tactical outfit for your new fn fs2k,
like the rest of us have, now that you've joined our club.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b162/Guardians91240SX/splinter%20cell/PICT0366.jpg[/
[
congrats!
wise decision
don't forget, aside from the Scar, your now going to need to get your official Sam Fisher tactical outfit for your new fn fs2k,
like the rest of us have, now that you've joined our club.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b162/Guardians91240SX/splinter%20cell/PICT0366.jpg[/
WTF????
10/19/2011 10:56:12 PM
10/21/2011 10:33:44 AM
Well, I still have not shot this beauty. I have a Judochop metal charge handle on it's way and I am looking at a few sling options. In my research I discovered the only real flaw in the FS2K was the plastic charge handle getting snapped off when folks would conduct a "HK" hit to it. As to the slings, I am looking at the STK and the Urban ERT. I like both and especially like the STK since it does not have to be taken off to access the trigger pack in the rear. The EOTECH 512 seems like a good choice in optic for this but I was thinking of ditching the factory iron sights and putting on the TROY set I have.
10/21/2011 3:55:55 PM
10/21/2011 3:56:29 PM
Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
Well, I still have not shot this beauty. I have a Judochop metal charge handle on it's way and I am looking at a few sling options. In my research I discovered the only real flaw in the FS2K was the plastic charge handle getting snapped off when folks would conduct a "HK" hit to it. As to the slings, I am looking at the STK and the Urban ERT. I like both and especially like the STK since it does not have to be taken off to access the trigger pack in the rear. The EOTECH 512 seems like a good choice in optic for this but I was thinking of ditching the factory iron sights and putting on the TROY set I have.
Well, I still have not shot this beauty. I have a Judochop metal charge handle on it's way and I am looking at a few sling options. In my research I discovered the only real flaw in the FS2K was the plastic charge handle getting snapped off when folks would conduct a "HK" hit to it. As to the slings, I am looking at the STK and the Urban ERT. I like both and especially like the STK since it does not have to be taken off to access the trigger pack in the rear. The EOTECH 512 seems like a good choice in optic for this but I was thinking of ditching the factory iron sights and putting on the TROY set I have.
the eotech goes really nice with the fs2k IMHO and dumping the factory sights is a must do
by the way, the trigger pack hardly ever gets dirty (if that helps in your decision making for your sling)
good luck with ur new piece
10/21/2011 4:59:07 PM
The Troy's work well with the EOTech 512...cowitness dot right on top of post.
Troy mags also work with the rifle without modification, but they're tight! Thin the rear rib along the back of the mag (where it widens) that contacts the magwell of the rifle widthwise and it goes in much easier. I've run the Troy's with no problem...30 round full mags on the close bolt lock right in...and I've NEVER had a failure with the rifle.
Troy mags also work with the rifle without modification, but they're tight! Thin the rear rib along the back of the mag (where it widens) that contacts the magwell of the rifle widthwise and it goes in much easier. I've run the Troy's with no problem...30 round full mags on the close bolt lock right in...and I've NEVER had a failure with the rifle.
10/21/2011 11:38:59 PM
Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
What about TROY's new MICRO battlesights? Those sit pretty low and look as if they would be better for the FS2K.
What about TROY's new MICRO battlesights? Those sit pretty low and look as if they would be better for the FS2K.
The old style Yankee Hill rear sight takes the least amount of rail space of all the BUIS I've been able to find. Important if you want to mount a magnifier with the Eotech.
10/24/2011 10:56:29 PM
Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
The one I was quoted was new in the box with a Aimpoint and low mount, black, tactical (rails), one mag, cleaning kit and my choice of three cases the guy has in stock. Package deal so to speak.
Now I did fondle a SCAR while there and it did have some cool factor. I was looking for something other than a AR since I have 4 already (Colt, LMT, BCM, Bushmaster) along with a few more AR uppers (ten in all). Kind of "ARed" out.
Now I'm thinking about this, FS or SCAR? SCAR or FS? Crap..........
The one I was quoted was new in the box with a Aimpoint and low mount, black, tactical (rails), one mag, cleaning kit and my choice of three cases the guy has in stock. Package deal so to speak.
Now I did fondle a SCAR while there and it did have some cool factor. I was looking for something other than a AR since I have 4 already (Colt, LMT, BCM, Bushmaster) along with a few more AR uppers (ten in all). Kind of "ARed" out.
Now I'm thinking about this, FS or SCAR? SCAR or FS? Crap..........
Depending on the Aimpoint model and the mount make, it may be a fair price - some aimpoints go up to $400, plus $100 for a correct mount, it's about right. The base gun new should run about $1850.
Now, if it's all UTG, then obviously not.
There going to be people talking sh** about them - "haters gonna hate." Then there will be people who messed theirs up because they could not read the friendly manual, have five thumbs on each hand, or something like that. There are very few with a thousand rounds or more through them that don't respect them. It's not an AR, don't treat it like one - it does a number of things better, and an AR does some other things better. Simply put, the manual of arms is different.
I have taken my AR, and my FS through courses and matches, and the FS is hands-down my go-to rifle, but I also like my AR a lot, and generally shoot that at matches.
10/25/2011 10:56:14 AM
Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
Well, earlier today I stopped by the shop and fondled the FS2K some more. So much so that it followed me home. Since I still have cash left over, I may order a SCAR 16 in black on Friday (from another shop in the area). Holy crap, my wife is gonna go ape shit.
I guess I am gonna get both.
Total was $2175.00 with a Eotech 512 and a nylon case. The store owner wanted to make the sale.
Well, earlier today I stopped by the shop and fondled the FS2K some more. So much so that it followed me home.
Since I still have cash left over, I may order a SCAR 16 in black on Friday (from another shop in the area). Holy crap, my wife is gonna go ape shit.
I guess I am gonna get both.
Total was $2175.00 with a Eotech 512 and a nylon case. The store owner wanted to make the sale.
That's not a bad deal at all.
I want to get an FS2K some day. I doubt it will ever be the "goto," as it has a few quirks in my view, but it is a cool "space gun."
10/25/2011 7:34:24 PM
Originally Posted By Strongbow:
I want to get an FS2K some day. I doubt it will ever be the "goto," as it has a few quirks in my view, but it is a cool "space gun."
I want to get an FS2K some day. I doubt it will ever be the "goto," as it has a few quirks in my view, but it is a cool "space gun."
Any gun I have I can not consider a "Goto" is a "gone from" as in see'ya
There are different aspects to this gun but there are no quirks.
I did not buy one to keep just play and pass on. Instead I sold the first one to buy a test fired only TAC with a Tri-rail and added an EOTech 553, a laser and a flashlight plus 30 rounds in the mag and that is how it sits 24/7 ret-to-go.
I consider it a heavy HD gun and when holding it my silhouette is actually smaller than holding a pistol.
I may have bought it for temporary fun but I kept it because it is most certainly a Goto kind of weapon
IMO
Wulfmann
11/1/2011 12:56:52 PM
These things new were selling everywhere for $1500 about a year ago. Can't wait to make fun of my buddy who always complains about missing deals but never gets off his arse when they come around.
I bought a used excellent condition optics model for $1500 before they flooded the market new for that price.
For collectibility, I think the optics model is the one to get, looks more sci fi too. I was hoping to luck into a tactical for sub $1500 used, but doesn't look like that will happen.
I bought a used excellent condition optics model for $1500 before they flooded the market new for that price.
For collectibility, I think the optics model is the one to get, looks more sci fi too. I was hoping to luck into a tactical for sub $1500 used, but doesn't look like that will happen.
11/2/2011 6:21:11 PM
Originally Posted By Quake_Guy:
These things new were selling everywhere for $1500 about a year ago. Can't wait to make fun of my buddy who always complains about missing deals but never gets off his arse when they come around.
I bought a used excellent condition optics model for $1500 before they flooded the market new for that price.
For collectibility, I think the optics model is the one to get, looks more sci fi too. I was hoping to luck into a tactical for sub $1500 used, but doesn't look like that will happen.
These things new were selling everywhere for $1500 about a year ago. Can't wait to make fun of my buddy who always complains about missing deals but never gets off his arse when they come around.
I bought a used excellent condition optics model for $1500 before they flooded the market new for that price.
For collectibility, I think the optics model is the one to get, looks more sci fi too. I was hoping to luck into a tactical for sub $1500 used, but doesn't look like that will happen.
the standards are far more cheaper than the tacticals
11/2/2011 7:27:14 PM
I got my current tactical a year or two ago for $1500 like new.. The nice thing about the fs2000 is some people buy them and hate them, dumping them cheap to people who know they like em.
11/4/2011 5:54:05 PM
I have a Urban ERT sling system on the way and a Troy front BUIS. I already have a Troy rear and a Eotech 512.
Anyone have instruction on removing the factory rear sight? I won't need it since I'm mounting the Troy ones.
Anyone have instruction on removing the factory rear sight? I won't need it since I'm mounting the Troy ones.
