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Colt_sporter  [Team Member]
11/18/2010 6:17:09 PM
After reading the .mil manual for the SCAR today, I am wondering where I could buy a SCAR tool kit that that shown in the manual?
1-75Ranger  [Team Member]
11/18/2010 6:47:58 PM
Not for sell yet to the general public...it would be nice if they would sell it
Colt_sporter  [Team Member]
11/18/2010 7:03:40 PM
Not for sale "yet" as is in they "will" be?
99HMC4  [Member]
11/18/2010 8:55:19 PM
Just put one together yourself. Theres nothing special about the tools! Get the seekonk wrench and the right size torx/allen bits and a nice liitle pouch and your good.......
seekonkbarrel wrench
Homeinvader  [Team Member]
11/18/2010 11:05:17 PM
The multi-tool and cleaning tool are what I'd be after. Any way to source the manufacturers? Maybe they'd sell...
GWL  [Member]
11/19/2010 10:01:16 AM

Originally Posted By Homeinvader:
The multi-tool and cleaning tool are what I'd be after. Any way to source the manufacturers? Maybe they'd sell...


That and the gas piston removal tool.
Colt_sporter  [Team Member]
11/19/2010 11:58:49 AM
Originally Posted By 99HMC4:
Just put one together yourself. Theres nothing special about the tools! Get the seekonk wrench and the right size torx/allen bits and a nice liitle pouch and your good.......
seekonkbarrel wrench


Nice try, but That's not the only part in the tool kit. Thanks for playing though.
PSYWAR1-0  [Team Member]
11/19/2010 12:32:57 PM
Yea, and the barrel change guide covered in combat acetate, gotta have one of them, and the clear plastic zero target, and some black silky soffee running shorts in XXXXXXL to wear while eating cheetos and pleasuring myself thinking that this weapon is just like the National assets are using

So how are those barrel changes going for folks? Got the Multicam quiver to carry those "Quick Change" barrels for on the fly changes to your mission profile? Or are the steel screws going into al you minimum when subjected to multiple heat and cool cycles just shearing off?

Eagle made the molle pouches that you can mount center chest on your gear, Im not for sure who makes the closed cell foam padding, nor the zipper or the pull the dot snaps.

Friendly_Crusader  [Member]
11/19/2010 12:39:31 PM
Originally Posted By PSYWAR1-0:
Yea, and the barrel change guide covered in combat acetate, gotta have one of them, and the clear plastic zero target, and some black silky soffee running shorts in XXXXXXL to wear while eating cheetos and pleasuring myself thinking that this weapon is just like the National assets are using

So how are those barrel changes going for folks? Got the Multicam quiver to carry those "Quick Change" barrels for on the fly changes to your mission profile? Or are the steel screws going into al you minimum when subjected to multiple heat and cool cycles just shearing off?

Eagle made the molle pouches that you can mount center chest on your gear, Im not for sure who makes the closed cell foam padding, nor the zipper or the pull the dot snaps.



are you done yet? i understand you're a supercoolguy but this is technical forum, not GD. Leave your awesome ego at the door.
PSYWAR1-0  [Team Member]
11/19/2010 1:13:40 PM
Originally Posted By Friendly_Crusader:
Originally Posted By PSYWAR1-0:
Yea, and the barrel change guide covered in combat acetate, gotta have one of them, and the clear plastic zero target, and some black silky soffee running shorts in XXXXXXL to wear while eating cheetos and pleasuring myself thinking that this weapon is just like the National assets are using

So how are those barrel changes going for folks? Got the Multicam quiver to carry those "Quick Change" barrels for on the fly changes to your mission profile? Or are the steel screws going into al you minimum when subjected to multiple heat and cool cycles just shearing off?

Eagle made the molle pouches that you can mount center chest on your gear, Im not for sure who makes the closed cell foam padding, nor the zipper or the pull the dot snaps.



are you done yet? i understand you're a supercoolguy but this is technical forum, not GD. Leave your awesome ego at the door.


Nope not done yet.

There was a whole lot more info in my post than you might realize at first glance,

I mean Gee, you found out who makes the pouch, 2 items that are part of the kit that no one else had talked about and even some really good info on why perhaps FN is not putting barrel removal info in the civ manual.

and you want to complain?



99HMC4  [Member]
11/19/2010 2:27:16 PM
Originally Posted By Colt_sporter:
Originally Posted By 99HMC4:
Just put one together yourself. Theres nothing special about the tools! Get the seekonk wrench and the right size torx/allen bits and a nice liitle pouch and your good.......
seekonkbarrel wrench


Nice try, but That's not the only part in the tool kit. Thanks for playing though.


I never said it was the only part. I did say you could put one together and have everything you need for the SCAR without having the "real" SOF SCAR kit. The link was only one example. Dont be a dick and use your brain to figure some stuff out....
scoutfsu99  [Team Member]
11/19/2010 7:26:57 PM
Ok psywar, I'll ask:

Why is FN not putting in barrel change info in the civ manual?
metroplex  [Member]
11/19/2010 7:34:29 PM
FN didn't put anything about lube points either in the civilian manual. Do I run it dry? And what lube should I use?

At least FN put in info about lube point and what lube to use in the PS90 manual (MIL-PRF-63460 CLP)
Colt_sporter  [Team Member]
11/19/2010 9:59:28 PM
Originally Posted By 99HMC4:
Originally Posted By Colt_sporter:
Originally Posted By 99HMC4:
Just put one together yourself. Theres nothing special about the tools! Get the seekonk wrench and the right size torx/allen bits and a nice liitle pouch and your good.......
seekonkbarrel wrench


Nice try, but That's not the only part in the tool kit. Thanks for playing though.


I never said it was the only part. I did say you could put one together and have everything you need for the SCAR without having the "real" SOF SCAR kit. The link was only one example. Dont be a dick and use your brain to figure some stuff out....


Actually, I think you started it with the ...and further more if you are so smart where do I find the SCAR Multi tool? Which is really all I wanted, but figured it would be part of the "kit."
99HMC4  [Member]
11/19/2010 10:28:41 PM
The only thing in the kit I thought would be hard to either get or make was the piston remover. Other than that Im sure people could find something that would work. You dont have to have a FN carbon scrapper but Im sure theres more options out there....
Colt_sporter  [Team Member]
11/21/2010 9:52:15 AM
Originally Posted By 99HMC4:
The only thing in the kit I thought would be hard to either get or make was the piston remover. Other than that Im sure people could find something that would work. You dont have to have a FN carbon scrapper but Im sure theres more options out there....


So really you have nothing to offer here...
99HMC4  [Member]
11/21/2010 11:35:58 AM
No, not really. Bad day I guess and took it out on this thread. I do still think one can put toghether a SCAR kit pretty easy, just cause you cant get the "real" SCAR SOF only multi tool doesnt mean you couldnt put a nice kit together yourself....
1MRBEAN  [Member]
11/21/2010 12:22:44 PM
Originally Posted By metroplex:
FN didn't put anything about lube points either in the civilian manual. Do I run it dry? And what lube should I use?

At least FN put in info about lube point and what lube to use in the PS90 manual (MIL-PRF-63460 CLP)



I dont own an FN but i would think a light coating of CLP on the outside of the bolt , maybe a little on the carrier rail slots and a little on the recoil spring/ rod would be all you need. Piston guns dont need any lube on the piston/chamber . None on the firing pin. I only put CLP in the bore and chamber when storing the firearm and clean them dry when i intend to go to the range. Hope this helps.


Colt_sporter  [Team Member]
11/21/2010 4:54:50 PM
Originally Posted By 1MRBEAN:
Originally Posted By metroplex:
FN didn't put anything about lube points either in the civilian manual. Do I run it dry? And what lube should I use?

At least FN put in info about lube point and what lube to use in the PS90 manual (MIL-PRF-63460 CLP)



I dont own an FN but i would think a light coating of CLP on the outside of the bolt , maybe a little on the carrier rail slots and a little on the recoil spring/ rod would be all you need. Piston guns dont need any lube on the piston/chamber . None on the firing pin. I only put CLP in the bore and chamber when storing the firearm and clean them dry when i intend to go to the range. Hope this helps.




Just do a quick Google search and you'll find the .mil manual online...which covers all the lube points for various climates and conditions. I'd post it here, however in another thread(not mine), a bunch of folks got into some serious butt hurt about it being available online.
1-75Ranger  [Team Member]
11/21/2010 8:58:32 PM
I find it iteresting I was told I need to change my attitude if I want to still be allowed to post in the FN forum. i understand you might have issues with the SCAR platform...is it perfect by no means, but I do feel alot of effort was put into this weapon. All someone posted was if there was anywhere to kit the tool kit...comment about SOFFE running shorts and "combat acetate and multicam quivers really needed. I sense you have some bitter feelings towards this weapon system and the people using it in combat.

Was there a video of a guy with that kit mounted on his chest, yes there was, but that is just showing how easy you can change the barrel, I dont think anyone expects someone to carry muti barrels on missions and change them during a firefight.

The platform gives the warfighter the ability to change barrels based on the misson..if you are going after a HVT or doing a PSD mission or something low profile you may want to only run a 10 inch barrel and not a longer one..its based on the user and what they feel they need for the mission...Missions drive the gear.

i am sure the SCAR will go through growing pains..if that was not the case we would still be humping around M16A1's

Originally Posted By PSYWAR1-0:
Yea, and the barrel change guide covered in combat acetate, gotta have one of them, and the clear plastic zero target, and some black silky soffee running shorts in XXXXXXL to wear while eating cheetos and pleasuring myself thinking that this weapon is just like the National assets are using

So how are those barrel changes going for folks? Got the Multicam quiver to carry those "Quick Change" barrels for on the fly changes to your mission profile? Or are the steel screws going into al you minimum when subjected to multiple heat and cool cycles just shearing off?

Eagle made the molle pouches that you can mount center chest on your gear, Im not for sure who makes the closed cell foam padding, nor the zipper or the pull the dot snaps.





1-75Ranger  [Team Member]
11/21/2010 9:01:29 PM
I dont see how comments about snaps and zippers are called for...someone just asked a simple question. I dont think it needs that tone. What is wrong if someone is looking for the carbon scraper or the other tools?
FloridaCreekIndian  [Team Member]
11/22/2010 9:06:42 PM
Would the BT2-LH work for the SCAR screws? It is also set at 65 in pounds
scoutfsu99  [Team Member]
11/22/2010 9:20:01 PM
Originally Posted By FloridaCreekIndian:
Would the BT2-LH work for the SCAR screws? It is also set at 65 in pounds


It needs to be set to 62. BT-2L. What does the H stand for?
99HMC4  [Member]
11/22/2010 11:21:53 PM
Originally Posted By scoutfsu99:
Originally Posted By FloridaCreekIndian:
Would the BT2-LH work for the SCAR screws? It is also set at 65 in pounds


It needs to be set to 62. BT-2L. What does the H stand for?


65 would work as well....
FloridaCreekIndian  [Team Member]
11/23/2010 1:19:37 AM
Originally Posted By scoutfsu99:
Originally Posted By FloridaCreekIndian:
Would the BT2-LH work for the SCAR screws? It is also set at 65 in pounds


It needs to be set to 62. BT-2L. What does the H stand for?


Not sure and I could find no info on it.
west996  [Team Member]
11/23/2010 8:06:43 AM
I just ordered my wrench from Seekonk last night.
FloridaCreekIndian  [Team Member]
11/23/2010 8:08:52 AM
Originally Posted By scoutfsu99:
Originally Posted By FloridaCreekIndian:
Would the BT2-LH work for the SCAR screws? It is also set at 65 in pounds


It needs to be set to 62. BT-2L. What does the H stand for?


"H" apparently stands for the hammer ends.
metroplex  [Member]
11/23/2010 9:54:55 AM
Has anyone looked at the prices for the Seekonk? $110 for a 62 in-lb T-handle torque wrench that's not even adjustable? While it is handy for swapping barrels in the field, it is unnecessary for a workbench. You can buy a Craftsman or Snap-On adjustable torque wrench for a lot less, but even at the same price an adjustable with a bigger range is more versatile IMHO. Just buy a quality T25 torx bit socket and you're good to go.

The most important tools from the kit would be (IMHO):
Gas plug / gas port reamer/cleaners
Gas piston removal tool

Everything else doesn't seem as important or unique. It's just kind of cool to get the official USGI secret-squirrel SCAR tool kits, but from a practical POV I can use COTS tools just as well.
GWL  [Member]
11/23/2010 10:38:56 AM

Originally Posted By metroplex:
Has anyone looked at the prices for the Seekonk? $110 for a 62 in-lb T-handle torque wrench that's not even adjustable? While it is handy for swapping barrels in the field, it is unnecessary for a workbench. You can buy a Craftsman or Snap-On adjustable torque wrench for a lot less, but even at the same price an adjustable with a bigger range is more versatile IMHO. Just buy a quality T25 torx bit socket and you're good to go.

The most important tools from the kit would be (IMHO):
Gas plug / gas port reamer/cleaners
Gas piston removal tool

Everything else doesn't seem as important or unique. It's just kind of cool to get the official USGI secret-squirrel SCAR tool kits, but from a practical POV I can use COTS tools just as well.


I agree, although I have a dedicated rod to remove the piston, it is still a pain. I too would love to get the piston removal tool. It may be easy to make, but you need an example to copy, Per FN the Tool Kit is only available to Military Armorers direct from the Brussels factory. There are no plans to market the kit in the USA. They did speculate that an after market Mfg. may put a kit together and sell it here in the US. Brownell's has acknowledged the need for a SCAR kit and indicated that they will look into the market after the first of the year.
1-75Ranger  [Team Member]
11/23/2010 12:30:12 PM
I am hoping that this years SHOT show will have some nice upgrades and tools and such as the SCAR has become more mainstream and becomming more and more popular
hobo  [Member]
11/23/2010 3:50:37 PM
Speaking of tools..... I bought one of the Sinclair " chamber guide things" Works like a charm.
Basically a tube that fits in the receiver with an o-ring and tapered chamber plug that you run your cleaning rod down. Very clean.
FWIW...., Can someone please emilame a copy of the SCAR manual at
JHarold@WHERETHEPOWERIS.COM

tHANKS
Long_Rifle  [Member]
11/23/2010 8:10:56 PM
Originally Posted By 1-75Ranger:
I am hoping that this years SHOT show will have some nice upgrades and tools and such as the SCAR has become more mainstream and becomming more and more popular


I'll be there on the first day of SHOT. I'll certainly be on the lookout for any SCAR related items.
cms81586  [Team Member]
11/25/2010 5:48:48 PM
Just put a kit together on your own. Its not like the govt issus the best stuff anyways. On top of that why not just buy a nice adjustable torque wrench? Nobody does barrel changes in the field and how the heck are you going to do a barrel change anyhow when there are no barrels to change to.

CMS
Colt_sporter  [Team Member]
11/25/2010 6:26:53 PM
Originally Posted By Long_Rifle:
Originally Posted By 1-75Ranger:
I am hoping that this years SHOT show will have some nice upgrades and tools and such as the SCAR has become more mainstream and becomming more and more popular


I'll be there on the first day of SHOT. I'll certainly be on the lookout for any SCAR related items.


Good and post pics.
metroplex  [Member]
11/25/2010 6:42:28 PM

Originally Posted By cms81586:
Just put a kit together on your own. Its not like the govt issus the best stuff anyways. On top of that why not just buy a nice adjustable torque wrench? Nobody does barrel changes in the field and how the heck are you going to do a barrel change anyhow when there are no barrels to change to.

CMS

LOL, quoted for the truth!
101ABN327  [Team Member]
11/26/2010 7:23:11 AM
Here is a nice clip showing the barrel change proceedure. Not sure who produced it...

101

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvntovQ9-PE