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Question about 1065gr shotgun detonators
2/19/2011 11:09:21 PM
Found a listing for some 12/20 gauge projectiles.
Wondering if this is worth messing with or better to leave alone.
Supposedly has 3 second delay and from what I can gather needs to be shot from a rifled barrel.
Can't find any other specifics on the design or construction.
Thanks
Wondering if this is worth messing with or better to leave alone.
Supposedly has 3 second delay and from what I can gather needs to be shot from a rifled barrel.
Can't find any other specifics on the design or construction.
Thanks
2/23/2011 9:07:52 AM
Nobody?
2/24/2011 10:12:14 AM
The projectiles you saw listed were probably priced higher than the complete 20/12ga rounds were/are available for.
2/24/2011 10:20:44 AM
like bird-bombs on steroids?
2/24/2011 10:26:02 AM
They run about $80 for 25...
2/24/2011 12:26:24 PM
Originally Posted By RDTCU:
They run about $80 for 25...
They run about $80 for 25...
Where can I get those at?
2/24/2011 12:50:40 PM
Originally Posted By sardo_67:
Originally Posted By RDTCU:
They run about $80 for 25...
Where can I get those at?They run about $80 for 25...
OUT OF STOCK HERE
2/25/2011 10:33:17 AM
I would do some research on those before I tried to shoot them out of a standard 12 guage... Find a copy of TM 43-0001-27. They are not made for a standard shotgun.
From the 'specifications' on Ammunitionstore.com:
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Shoot out of a rifled barrel only.
Detonates On Impact
Bullet Type: 12 Gauge Trainer Spotter
Projectile Weight: 1065gr
Amount: 1 Round
Function: The projectile impacts with the target. The point detonating fuze functions and an explosion charge within the fuze ignites the smoke composition and ejects it out the base of the projectile.
Notes: TRAINER-SPOTTER Cartridge. The cartridge consists of a cartridge case, a chemical filled (smoke composition) projectile, and a fuze with a small explosive charge to provide a visible and audible verification at point of impact. The cartridge is identified by the markings on the cartridge case and a orange projectile tip.
Detailed Specifications:
Use - Artillery Trainer, M31.
TM 43-0001-27
CARTRIDGE, 14.5 MM, TRAINER-SPOTTER, M183A1
Type Classification: STD - AMCTC 138.
Tabulated Data:
DODAC ............................................1305-A367
UNO serial number .......................... 0012
UNO proper shipping
name................................................. Cartridges for
weapons, inert projectile
Weight ..............................................1065 gr
Length ..............................................2.55 in. (64.9 mm)
Tracer .............................................. NA
Primer ..............................................Percussion
Fuze .................................................PD
Explosive:
Type .............................................. NA
Weight ..........................................NA
Incendiary:
Type .............................................NA
Weight ..........................................NA
Propellant:
Type .............................................Hi Skor 700X
Weight .......................................... 3.5 gr
Performance:
Chamber pressure ............................NA
Velocity ............................................100 nips, 4 m from
muzzle; 328 fps,
15 ft from muzzle
Shipping and Storage Data:
Quantity-distance class/
SCG .............................................. 1.4S
Storage code ....................................Class V
DOT shipping class ..........................C
DOT designation ............................... SMALL ARMS
AMMUNITION
Drawing number ............................... 9098293
References:
SB 700-20
TM 9-1300-206
From the 'specifications' on Ammunitionstore.com:
––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––-
Shoot out of a rifled barrel only.
Detonates On Impact
Bullet Type: 12 Gauge Trainer Spotter
Projectile Weight: 1065gr
Amount: 1 Round
Function: The projectile impacts with the target. The point detonating fuze functions and an explosion charge within the fuze ignites the smoke composition and ejects it out the base of the projectile.
Notes: TRAINER-SPOTTER Cartridge. The cartridge consists of a cartridge case, a chemical filled (smoke composition) projectile, and a fuze with a small explosive charge to provide a visible and audible verification at point of impact. The cartridge is identified by the markings on the cartridge case and a orange projectile tip.
Detailed Specifications:
Use - Artillery Trainer, M31.
TM 43-0001-27
CARTRIDGE, 14.5 MM, TRAINER-SPOTTER, M183A1
Type Classification: STD - AMCTC 138.
Tabulated Data:
DODAC ............................................1305-A367
UNO serial number .......................... 0012
UNO proper shipping
name................................................. Cartridges for
weapons, inert projectile
Weight ..............................................1065 gr
Length ..............................................2.55 in. (64.9 mm)
Tracer .............................................. NA
Primer ..............................................Percussion
Fuze .................................................PD
Explosive:
Type .............................................. NA
Weight ..........................................NA
Incendiary:
Type .............................................NA
Weight ..........................................NA
Propellant:
Type .............................................Hi Skor 700X
Weight .......................................... 3.5 gr
Performance:
Chamber pressure ............................NA
Velocity ............................................100 nips, 4 m from
muzzle; 328 fps,
15 ft from muzzle
Shipping and Storage Data:
Quantity-distance class/
SCG .............................................. 1.4S
Storage code ....................................Class V
DOT shipping class ..........................C
DOT designation ............................... SMALL ARMS
AMMUNITION
Drawing number ............................... 9098293
References:
SB 700-20
TM 9-1300-206
2/25/2011 6:30:47 PM
Yes. I had read that about the rifled barrel. I didn't know if these were worth messing with or not.
I also thought about loading these into some kind of setup to shoot out of my M203.
Maybe I'm crazy but they look kinda cool.
I also thought about loading these into some kind of setup to shoot out of my M203.
Maybe I'm crazy but they look kinda cool.
2/27/2011 10:54:17 PM
My concern about shooting them out of a standard shotgun would be the nose of around sitting against the base of another during recoil... Also, the requirement for a rifled bore suggests to me that rotation needs to happen for arming to occur.
FWIW, I think a single shot subcal adapter in a 203 would kick ass for those, but I would still find that pub and read what's going on inside of those before attempting to shoot one. Also, find the pub for the subcal device itself, and read about what kind of range and trajectory they have (some subcals I have seen don't go too far).
FWIW, I think a single shot subcal adapter in a 203 would kick ass for those, but I would still find that pub and read what's going on inside of those before attempting to shoot one. Also, find the pub for the subcal device itself, and read about what kind of range and trajectory they have (some subcals I have seen don't go too far).
2/28/2011 11:27:46 PM
I was thinking of working up a subcaliber adapter for the M203 and it would be a cheap way to simulate a HE training round.
Bang and smoke and a fraction of the cost.
Bang and smoke and a fraction of the cost.
