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 Walther P22 suppressor, how to ???
jackal2001  [Team Member]
3/5/2007 12:51:10 PM
OK I have been looking to MAYBE get a .22 pistol and MAYBE getting a suppressor for it. It seems like the P22 is the way to go.

Now If I were to get a P22, what do you need to get to mount a suppressor on it? Do I need to get a new threaded extended barrel like most handguns, or just a threaded extension that some people are selling?

I know nothing about this particular .22 pistol so teach me.

Thanks
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mpallett  [Moderator]
3/5/2007 1:28:03 PM
Make sure you don't get a CA model because it doesn't have the threaded barrel.

What ever suppressor you decide, that manufacturer "should" sell an adapter to convert the "P22 threads" to 1/2 x 28 for the suppressor.

Several companies are also making QD mounts.



PBIR  [Member]
3/5/2007 1:33:57 PM
They come threaded IIRC.
rxdawg  [Team Member]
3/5/2007 1:46:12 PM
I have a Tac-65 on the way. They also market an adapter:

www.tacticalinc.com/walther-thread-adapterbr-with-thread-protector-p-74.html

Check with the suppressor manufacturer as mentioned earlier.
jackal2001  [Team Member]
3/5/2007 1:50:14 PM
OK I just found this:

Tactial Innovations
To install it, you don't have to modify your handgun or do any machine work. All you have to do is remove the factory barrel nut with the factory supplied wrench and then replace it with this adapter which will give you the 1/2x28 male thread in the front of the gun. A machined thread protector with a nicely knurled OD is also included in the price so that when your suppressor is not installed, you won't run the risk of damaging the threads.

I guess a Tactial Innovations can would be the best way to go since you can take them apart to bead blast the baffles.
Noxspector  [Team Member]
3/5/2007 2:18:47 PM

Originally Posted By mpallett:
Make sure you don't get a CA model because it doesn't have the threaded barrel.

What ever suppressor you decide, that manufacturer "should" sell an adapter to convert the "P22 threads" to 1/2 x 28 for the suppressor.

Several companies are also making QD mounts.






What QD mounts for 22cans do you speak of?

ETA: Ah Wraith....



For the thread adapters for the P22, check out hotrod9mm's post in the NFA area of the EE. While I don't have a P22 with his adapter a friend does and it's very nice workmanship.
mlm1219  [Team Member]
3/5/2007 2:53:32 PM

Originally Posted By Noxspector:

Originally Posted By mpallett:
Make sure you don't get a CA model because it doesn't have the threaded barrel.

What ever suppressor you decide, that manufacturer "should" sell an adapter to convert the "P22 threads" to 1/2 x 28 for the suppressor.

Several companies are also making QD mounts.






What QD mounts for 22cans do you speak of?

ETA: Ah Wraith....



For the thread adapters for the P22, check out hotrod9mm's post in the NFA area of the EE. While I don't have a P22 with his adapter a friend does and it's very nice workmanship.


SWR makes the Warlock with a QD design.
mpallett  [Moderator]
3/5/2007 4:11:28 PM

Originally Posted By Noxspector:

Originally Posted By mpallett:
Make sure you don't get a CA model because it doesn't have the threaded barrel.

What ever suppressor you decide, that manufacturer "should" sell an adapter to convert the "P22 threads" to 1/2 x 28 for the suppressor.

Several companies are also making QD mounts.






What QD mounts for 22cans do you speak of?

ETA: Ah Wraith....



For the thread adapters for the P22, check out hotrod9mm's post in the NFA area of the EE. While I don't have a P22 with his adapter a friend does and it's very nice workmanship.



I speak of the SWR QD Warlock and the AAC Aviator and Prodigy. I hadn't even thought about the YHM Wraith
Noxspector  [Team Member]
3/5/2007 4:21:23 PM
Cool, good info for me. Thanks, I haven't really kept up on the QD stuff for .22s as I haven't looked at them for my purposes. The screw on stuff for me lets me move them to more stuff and once there on they look just as tacticool.

ZachH  [Team Member]
3/5/2007 5:00:09 PM
the AAC prodigy and ETS crusader also come appart for cleaning.
fcbab14  [Member]
3/5/2007 6:03:31 PM

Originally Posted By ZachH:
the AAC prodigy and ETS crusader also come appart for cleaning.


i have never heard the prodigy but the crusader is the bomb. i am ordering mine on friday. my first can.
jackal2001  [Team Member]
3/5/2007 6:15:33 PM
Who is ETS???
medicmandan  [Team Member]
3/5/2007 6:24:06 PM
I use a TAC-65 with the Tactical Innovations P22 threaded barrel nut. Works like a champ.

jackal2001  [Team Member]
3/5/2007 6:30:49 PM
Let me ask you guys this, for those that shoot suppressed .22lr handguns. How loud is it shooting High Velocity ammo through cans? Is it still pretty quiet?
Noxspector  [Team Member]
3/5/2007 6:37:02 PM
Generally the faster the bullet the louder it is. I don't believe that this is due to the speed of the bullet, but the amount and burn rate of the propellant. Stingers are pretty loud to me even with a suppressor.
ZachH  [Team Member]
3/5/2007 8:38:22 PM

Originally Posted By jackal2001:
Who is ETS???


we make this.





also everything I've shot out of a P22 is subsonic . the barrel is too short to allow the bullet to get up to normal velocities. some ammo is quiter than others in it . most guns with a 5" or longer barrel need std. veolcity or subsonic to not have the "crack" going down range.
Noxspector  [Team Member]
3/5/2007 9:59:08 PM
Here's a link to a file with some chrono data. We used a P22 during the testing. We aren't done testing everything yet.

Chrono Data

superde  [Team Member]
3/6/2007 6:55:07 AM
Website?


Originally Posted By ZachH:

Originally Posted By jackal2001:
Who is ETS???


we make this.

i74.photobucket.com/albums/i277/bobsboobs/crusader.jpg



also everything I've shot out of a P22 is subsonic . the barrel is too short to allow the bullet to get up to normal velocities. some ammo is quiter than others in it . most guns with a 5" or longer barrel need std. veolcity or subsonic to not have the "crack" going down range.
jackal2001  [Team Member]
3/6/2007 5:36:20 PM
OK I found out my dealer normally sells the P22 + suppressor package. I asked if he does the P22+ Tac 65 but he said he sells the Tac 52 since it is shorter.

Anyone prefer or know the differences between the two models? I know one is shorter but what about the db rating. I am sure the longer the more quieter it is.
David_Hineline  [Team Member]
3/6/2007 7:10:16 PM
According to the website, the TAC 52 is shorter but just as quiet due to more complex internals. Says the main difference is the TAC 52 internals are harder to clean.
atomicferret  [Member]
3/6/2007 7:21:54 PM
If you have smaller hands, the P22 is great. You may want to check out a Sig Mosquito. it is a little bit bigger, it may be more comfortable to shoot. what ever you do, just get one, you'll love it.
Green0  [Member]
3/6/2007 9:20:03 PM
It's just as easy to ship the barrel of any .22 pistol to M60joe at M60joe.com and have a threaded barrel back in a week or two tops.

It will cost maybe 2-3 times the cost of the adaptor for the P22, and you get to have any .22 pistol you want as a host.





The supersonic ammo can be really quiet - Federal classic through a 4.5" barrel isn't too loud. 5.56 is loud as hell. so either the Federal classic is just barely reaching the speed of sound, or the speed over sound matters too.

Subsonic ammo is cheap, and with the P22 the barrel is so short, you'll probably have a realy hard time getting anything supersonic.

The shorter barrel makes the can a little louder too so it's not all roses.
Zack3g  [Team Member]
3/6/2007 9:33:52 PM
I can +1 the adapter from HotRod9mm on the EE. I bought one from him and they're awesome.


I can also recommend the SRT Cheyenne or SRT Cheyenne XL. Both are excellent cans, and "stupid" quiet.

Doug (AZDoug on the boards) is a great guy to work with. I currently own 4 cans. 3 of them were made by Doug.


I'm considering one of the ETS Crusaders for my M16, though.
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