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 Official Kaboom thread? Help promote eye safety
benzo  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 12:23:05 AM
Hey guys,

I was hoping to turn this into a "scared straight" thread to show people the dangers of not wearing any eye protection. I have a particular relative who always wears a pair, but only after I remind him he isn't wearing any glasses.

This isn't reloads vs factory ammo discussion, recent ammo manufacturing recalls should highlight the fact that even the big companies can screw up.


Just to get it started:













benzo  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 12:23:18 AM
Reserved















SharpCharge  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 12:33:18 AM
Just wondering, are any of those yours?
JoeCoastie  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 12:42:56 AM
ouch
jhud  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 12:44:53 AM
that M1a kaboom looks brutal. Ill be sure to pass on that serial # if i see it at a show .
Please people, shoot safely. Not only for yourseld but for those around you.
Ive had to leave the range more than once cause of folks trying to win the stupid prize.
benzo  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 12:49:54 AM
NONE of these kabooms are mine. The only one I have personally had was with a 22 conversion. It went off out of battery and spit some brass out.
benzo  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 12:55:48 AM
Originally Posted By jhud:
that M1a kaboom looks brutal. Ill be sure to pass on that serial # if i see it at a show .
Please people, shoot safely. Not only for yourseld but for those around you.
Ive had to leave the range more than once cause of folks trying to win the stupid prize.


Pics like the ones above, make me think twice before getting comfy next to my rifle. I cannot imagine pulling the trigger and having my rifle turn into a yard sale next to my face!
HunterGren  [Member]
3/23/2012 1:36:07 AM
Never did get any more pics of this. The kid that blew it up picked up his "gun" before I had a chance to.





OlCrow  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 7:25:24 AM
Not my Colt.

AMCJ76  [Member]
3/23/2012 8:55:21 AM
Not mine,

Infamous chinese ammo gun lol

lew  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 8:58:24 AM
Good idea for a thread, and it would be wise for the mods to sticky it.
benzo  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 10:36:39 AM
Originally Posted By HunterGren:
Never did get any more pics of this. The kid that blew it up picked up his "gun" before I had a chance to.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c280/HunterGren/GarandKB1.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c280/HunterGren/GarangKB2.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c280/HunterGren/GarandKB3.jpg


Holy Cow! That thing is nothing but kindling!
Ghetto  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 10:54:29 AM
Not mine or the rifle posted above


ConKeeper  [Member]
3/23/2012 11:22:21 AM
Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Not mine or the rifle posted above

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn0KBzK2Kho



Jesus, thats fuckin' brutal!
coolstuff  [Member]
3/23/2012 11:38:22 AM
tep0583  [Member]
3/23/2012 11:50:41 AM
Originally Posted By ConKeeper:
Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Not mine or the rifle posted above

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn0KBzK2Kho



Jesus, thats fuckin' brutal!


Hells yes, it is! Is that a squib or just a bad round?

I thought it was going to be the guy's that blew.

I want to cry whenever I see that happen to a Garand.....
AR15fan  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 11:54:21 AM
Looks like i need to start wearing gloves and a long sleeved shirt as well.
Frens  [Member]
3/23/2012 12:51:27 PM
Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Not mine or the rifle posted above

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn0KBzK2Kho


I once saw one KB like that....live!
also a Garand...
bad handload caused an out of battery discharge....all the pressure went between the receiver and the wood making explode the stock...
Joenavy85  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 1:03:21 PM
Originally Posted By tep0583:
Originally Posted By ConKeeper:
Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Not mine or the rifle posted above




Jesus, thats fuckin' brutal!


Hells yes, it is! Is that a squib or just a bad round?

I thought it was going to be the guy's that blew.

I want to cry whenever I see that happen to a Garand.....


I would bet on a squib, it made no noise and it looks like she pulls a casing out (to me at least). In the comments she says that it wasn't a squib, and that it likely fired out of battery. I don't know enough about Garands to say if it's possible or not, but I know it's not with my Mini 14. Any time I hear a click instead of a boom, I clear the gun and field strip it, just to be sure of what happened.

ETA: I had one tear drop on this one, I tried to be strong but couldn't, lol
jungp  [Member]
3/23/2012 1:10:17 PM
I have eye and ear protection literally everywhere. When I go outside of the house towards the shop, I have ear plugs ready to go. Always wear them.
OIF_Vet08-09  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 1:42:55 PM
Damn, some of these look brutal
jhud  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 3:59:49 PM
I weigh all my finished reloaded rounds on a digital scale. That might have helped the gal in the video.

ive tested my reloads with no powder and they do not budge from the crimp.
A little bit of powder could change that. Its kind of hard to sneak an empty hull past the scale though.
GUTS  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 5:10:55 PM
Originally Posted By Ghetto:
Not mine or the rifle posted above

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn0KBzK2Kho


It appears to me that the young lady rode the bolt forward after she cleared out the empty. Riding the bolt is a no-no with any semi auto rifle. I think this greatly contributed to the out of battery firing.
Beretta96Inox  [Member]
3/23/2012 6:18:26 PM
Not mine.


benzo  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 8:03:14 PM
Google " ammunition recalls" to see why reloads are not always the problem.

EX.
"The Federal Cartridge Company is recalling several lots of its .45 Long Colt semi-wadcutter hollow point ammunition—product No. C45LCA in a Classic 20 round box. Company officials say rounds from these lot numbers might exhibit excessive chamber pressures, and the use of this product could result in firearms damage and/or personal injury. Federal says consumers should not use ammunition with lot numbers 8J191, 8J192, 8J193, 8J194, 8J195, 8J196, 8J197, 8J198 and 8J199. The lot number can be found on the back of the ammunition carton or on the inside of the box's end flap. If you have ammunition from any of these lot numbers, or have questions concerning this recall, contact Federal at (800) 831-0850 or (800) 322-2342 and ask for the company's Product Service department."

"Fiocchi of America, Inc. is recalling several lots of 9mm Luger, 115 grain FMJ ammunition that was imported from Fiocchi Munizioni, Italy.

Through extensive evaluation, Fiocchi Munizioni has determined that the lots listed below may contain defective propellant. The propellant in this ammunition may cause squib loads which could cause firearm damage, and subject the shooter or bystanders to a risk of personal injury when fired.

DO NOT USE FIOCCHI 9mm Luger, 115 grain, FMJ ammunition that has a lot number listed below:

The ammunition Lot number is stamped inside the box tuck flap.

4509222 4510230 4510248 4510256 ................................continued


To determine if your ammunition is subject to this notice, review the Lot Number. If the lot number matches any of the lot numbers listed above, return the ammunition to Fiocchi of America via United Parcel Service (UPS) or FED-EX Ground. Securely pack the ammunition into a corrugated cardboard box, write “CARTRIDGES, SMALL ARMS ORM-D” on the outside, and ship to:
FIOCCHI OF AMERICA, Inc.
ATTN: Recall
6930 N. Fremont Road
Ozark, MO 65721"

"Winchester Recalls Ranger Law Enforcement Ammo

Olin Corporation, through its Winchester Division, is recalling six (6) lots of its RANGER® 223 Remington 64 Grain Power-Point® (PP) centerfire rifle ammunition (Symbol Number RA223R2).

Lot Numbers (last four characters): DK01, DK11, DK21, DK31, DK41, and DK51

NEW ADDITIONS (July 2011): 12 lots are subject to the recall. The additional lot numbers (last four characters) are: DM70, DM80, DM90, DM01, DM11 and DM21.

Through extensive evaluation Winchester has determined the above lots of RANGER® Law Enforcement ammunition may contain incorrect propellant. Incorrect propellant in this ammunition may cause firearm damage, rendering the firearm inoperable, and subject the shooter or bystanders to a risk of serious personal injury when fired.

DO NOT USE WINCHESTER® RANGER® 223 REMINGTON 64 GRAIN POWER-POINT® AMMUNITION THAT HAS A LOT NUMBER ENDING IN DK01, DK11, DK21, DK31, DK41 or DK51. The ammunition Lot Number is ink stamped inside the right tuck flap of the 20-round carton.

To determine if your ammunition is subject to this notice, review the Lot Number. If the last four characters of the Lot Number are DK01, DK11, DK21, DK31, DK41 or DK51 immediately discontinue use and contact Winchester toll-free at 866-423-5224 to arrange for replacement ammunition and free UPS pick-up of the recalled ammunition.

This notice applies only to RANGER® 223 Remington 64 Grain Power-Point® centerfire rifle ammunition with lot numbers ending in DK01, DK11, DK21, DK31, DK41, and DK51. Other Symbol Numbers or Lot Numbers are not subject to this recall.

If you have any questions concerning this RANGER® Law Enforcement ammunition recall please call toll-free 866-423-5224, write to Winchester (600 Powder Mill Road, East Alton, IL 62024 Attn: RA223R2 Recall), or visit our website at www.winchester.com.
"



Furyataurus  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 9:44:41 PM
How about some eye injury pics instead.
skebe  [Team Member]
3/23/2012 11:48:16 PM


What is that barrel in the Glock?
benzo  [Team Member]
3/24/2012 12:29:10 AM
Originally Posted By skebe:


What is that barrel in the Glock?


Looks to be a KKM barrel

wesmerc  [Team Member]
3/24/2012 8:03:40 AM
this should be tacked somewhere.
dirtytim  [Member]
3/24/2012 4:21:35 PM
It doesn't always have to be a catastrophic KB to cause problems. My dad had a taurus .38 revolver he was shooting, I was looking down range over his right shoulder as he was firing. On one trigger pull I got sprayed in the face with hot debris. Apparently the cylinder was "out of time" and caused a small portion of the bullet to be shaved off when firing. If I was not wearing eye protection it could have been a problem. All it takes is a small chunk of something in the eye to cause big problems.
ravinluna  [Team Member]
3/24/2012 5:33:46 PM
no gun pics but three case failures

found on a bench with a mixed pile of .41 mag .44 mag and .45 LC brass and some blood on the bench, conclusion idiiot put a .44mag in a .45LC gun ant it went kaboom

found on the ground, and it is not a Glock failure, look at the firing pin indent

This was my Glock smile failure mid-vel load of 231 in an RP case with a 230gr.JHP blew the mag into the ground and stung the hell out of my hand some spray into my face wearing glasses thank god
NSEGE  [Member]
3/24/2012 10:54:59 PM
No picts....but....I once saw a Garand KaBoom... in a 3-gun match. Had a suib, and racked the bolt before the RO could stop him. Gun was "not so neatly" in two pieces... just about in half, with splinters everywhere. Incredibly, the gentleman wasn't injured anywhere! Wish I had a camera to capture the look on his face standing there with half of a Garand in each hand and the sling dangling between..... could'a been a lot worse.

I had one with an STI Ranger....strange as it may seem (but a lot of y'all know this), a 40S&W will fit and feed in a 45ACP magazine. Most of the time, it will be caught by the extractor and you'll just get a "click".... well, I got a "click" and racked the slide while holding the pistol on the target. Nothing came out of the ejection port, so, assuming (ass-you-me") it wasn't a squib, I let fly another round.... sounded and felt funny, but no pain....next round no go boom, so I look at the piece....looks normal so I try to rack the slide and no-go. Turns out the 40 went down the barrel, and the 45 fired behind it. Split the barrel....had to end-mill it to get it out, but other than a slight bulge under the ejection port (which I squoze back into alignment) there was no damage...not even a "magazine dismemberment". Put a new barrel (with a bushing instead of the bull barrel...its what I had on hand) and it still runs fine. PS: I hit the Azone at about 5yds. with the 40 bullet!

Just a reminder to check your ammo!!!! By the way, I hate 40's.... too much like 9's and 45's both when it comes to things like this.
Happy_Camper  [Member]
3/26/2012 4:59:29 PM
Wearing a pair doesn't mean you don't have a pair.
Donner_und_Blitzen  [Member]
3/26/2012 7:01:58 PM
Colt 10mm Delta Elite. A friend of mine had a bad day reloading.





benzo  [Team Member]
3/26/2012 7:18:13 PM


What am I looking at? 1 Squib and two that followed? How did he end up with three in the barrel?
Donner_und_Blitzen  [Member]
3/26/2012 7:27:15 PM
There are four in the barrel. The only thing I can figure happened is, he left powder out of the first rd and the other three pushed it down the tube until the the last case blow out.
benzo  [Team Member]
3/26/2012 7:59:07 PM
Originally Posted By Donner_und_Blitzen:
There are four in the barrel. The only thing I can figure happened is, he left powder out of the first rd and the other three pushed it down the tube until the the last case blow out.


4! wow,
akethan  [Life Member]
3/26/2012 8:08:09 PM
Originally Posted By Donner_und_Blitzen:
There are four in the barrel. The only thing I can figure happened is, he left powder out of the first rd and the other three pushed it down the tube until the the last case blow out.


It looks like he left the powder out of 3 rounds. How in the hell did he not here the difference in loads? I'm sure he heard #4.
Joenavy85  [Team Member]
3/26/2012 8:10:35 PM
Originally Posted By akethan:
How in the hell did he not here the difference in loads?


Damn good question, stuff like this is probably why my local range only allows single load for centerfire rifles and 5 rounds max per handgun.
Donner_und_Blitzen  [Member]
3/26/2012 8:44:35 PM
No, all had powder except for the first. Two cases showed high pressure and the case still in the barrel blew out into the magwell. The gun locked up and I liked to have never got the slide open. The magazine blew out of the grip frame and the Pachmayr grips blew out from the frame to were I could stick my finger between the frame and the grips. The only thing that saved his hand was the steel insert in the grips. I replaced the barrel, magazine and grips and still shoot the Colt 15 years later.

I wasn't there so I don't why he didn't know something was wrong. He should have stopped when the rd didn't cycle the slide.
Donner_und_Blitzen  [Member]
3/26/2012 8:49:31 PM
Originally Posted By Joenavy85:
Originally Posted By akethan:
How in the hell did he not here the difference in loads?


Damn good question, stuff like this is probably why my local range only allows single load for centerfire rifles and 5 rounds max per handgun.


maybe, but this wasn't at any range, it was in his back yard.

AR18  [Member]
3/29/2012 5:43:23 PM
That's amazing on the colt delta barrel to have that many bullets in it.

The custom made M1A (if this is the correct one) is an old picture that was posted in the mid 2000s. If I remember correctly, it was ammo problem.