Accidental Discharge!
So there is no way of explainiing the incident that will make it sound any better, but I had my first accident discharge with my Glock 19 yesterday. Who here has done this? I Hope I'm not the only one...
Try...?
AD's are impossible with glocks.
You had a Negligent discharge.
Learn from it.
Negligent if finger hit or was on trigger.
If you had any interaction with the gun and it went off, it is unlikely to be an accident.
You say this is your first. Are you already planning another?
That's like calling a car wreck a car accident. If it went off because of something you did or failed to do, it was a negligent discharge.
Shit happens.....learn from it and move on. You aren't the first and you won't be the last. As long as nobody was hurt that is all that really matters.
It's all in the details!!!
We're you following rule #1?
Never point a gun at anything you don't wish to destroy.
Originally Posted By 1IV:
We're you following rule #1?
Never point a gun at anything you don't wish to destroy.
Yep. More details please.
Anyone who's spent enough time around guns will have a ND at some point. The difference is how well you were following the other rules.
The only negligent discharge I have ever had was with an HK P7, luckily it was at a gun range and it was pointed down range. It was my first time firing one of those, and I underestimated the trigger pull

Originally Posted By eclark53520:
AD's are impossible with glocks.
You had a Negligent discharge.
Learn from it.
don't be an ass.
guy makes a thread about the event, everybody has to be pedantic about terminology.
yay arfcom.
I stand corrected, it was a negligent discharge.
The lighting in my safe went out. I started taking all the guns out so I could figure out what happened. I started with the rifles, took them all out and stacked them against the wall. I took the pistols out 1 by one and put then on top of the safe. It happened really fast but I guess I grabbed the glock with my finger inside the trigger guard. before I had the gun rested on the top of my safe BANG it went off. I was more like "no way that just happened" more than I was scared as it was pointed in a safe direction. Or at least away me or anything living/of value. I was the only one home at the time, but I think it really scared my cat. It left a few holes in my walls and I think it stopped in a beam or the ceiling somewhere.
My ears were ringing for a few hours afterwards. It's my personal rule that all the guns are unloaded when they go into the safe, but I had a few friends over and I think someone left it loaded... Whatever the case may be, it happened and luckly nobody was hurt and is easily fixed with some spackle.
After looking at what was in it, it looks to be 147 gr +P Golden Saber JHP. I've declaired March gun safety month in my house.
Originally Posted By skullbox:
I think someone left it loaded....
What makes you think that?

Originally Posted By TadJackson:
Originally Posted By eclark53520:
AD's are impossible with glocks.
You had a Negligent discharge.
Learn from it.
don't be an ass.
guy makes a thread about the event, everybody has to be pedantic about terminology.
yay arfcom.
It's not just being an ass about terminology. An accidental discharge means a mechanical failure of some kind, and when that happens its a big deal and can impact a lot of other people. In the mil, for example, it results in safety inspections, stand downs, prohibitions on equipment usage, etc while the problem is investigated to see if it could endanger others. In the civilian world, there have been recalls and other actions from true accidents- including ones that affected firearms I owned.
A negligent discharge is a different beast. Knowing what we're really talking about is important.
Originally Posted By skullbox:
So there is no way of explainiing the incident that will make it sound any better, but I had my first accident discharge with my Glock 19 yesterday. Who here has done this? I Hope I'm not the only one...
Had friend cleaning his 686 in the basement and was dry firing it and then he loaded it and to take it upstairs to the safe beside his bed.
Old lady called down to ask about something, just after he answered he lifted the gun up and dryfired into the basement wall just like he had been doing moments before.
Except this time he had been distracted for a moment and forgot about loading the gun. Very loud bang. Bullet hit the wall and never found again.
No one hit. Never did it again.
I had a suprise discharge once, I say surprise because I had a double feed AND bolt override in a M&P 15-22 rimfire. I sate rifle on the bench facing safely down range, just me and another friend there. Yanking on the bolt I finally freed it, it slammed home and shot the round in the chamber.
No harm cause I was prepared.
Originally Posted By TAP:
Originally Posted By TadJackson:
Originally Posted By eclark53520:
AD's are impossible with glocks.
You had a Negligent discharge.
Learn from it.
don't be an ass.
guy makes a thread about the event, everybody has to be pedantic about terminology.
yay arfcom.
It's not just being an ass about terminology. An accidental discharge means a mechanical failure of some kind, and when that happens its a big deal and can impact a lot of other people. In the mil, for example, it results in safety inspections, stand downs, prohibitions on equipment usage, etc while the problem is investigated to see if it could endanger others. In the civilian world, there have been recalls and other actions from true accidents- including ones that affected firearms I owned.
A negligent discharge is a different beast. Knowing what we're really talking about is important.
i've just noticed a lot of people who *REAAAAAAALLY* like to assign blame.
glad you are ok
Originally Posted By TAP:
Originally Posted By TadJackson:
Originally Posted By eclark53520:
AD's are impossible with glocks.
You had a Negligent discharge.
Learn from it.
don't be an ass.
guy makes a thread about the event, everybody has to be pedantic about terminology.
yay arfcom.
It's not just being an ass about terminology. An accidental discharge means a mechanical failure of some kind, and when that happens its a big deal and can impact a lot of other people. In the mil, for example, it results in safety inspections, stand downs, prohibitions on equipment usage, etc while the problem is investigated to see if it could endanger others. In the civilian world, there have been recalls and other actions from true accidents- including ones that affected firearms I owned.
A negligent discharge is a different beast. Knowing what we're really talking about is important.
I suppose we need do nothing more than reference Marriam Webster?
Accident:
1
a : an unforeseen and unplanned event or circumstance
b : lack of intention or necessity : chance <met by accident rather than by design>
2
a : an unfortunate event resulting especially from carelessness or ignorance
....
Not that I care. I call them all ND, but seriously if someone says "hey grab that clip for my AR15" you know they mean "magazine". I don't give a fucking lecture every time someone says "clip"....
Originally Posted By LedZeppelin:
Originally Posted By TAP:
Originally Posted By TadJackson:
Originally Posted By eclark53520:
AD's are impossible with glocks.
You had a Negligent discharge.
Learn from it.
don't be an ass.
guy makes a thread about the event, everybody has to be pedantic about terminology.
yay arfcom.
It's not just being an ass about terminology. An accidental discharge means a mechanical failure of some kind, and when that happens its a big deal and can impact a lot of other people. In the mil, for example, it results in safety inspections, stand downs, prohibitions on equipment usage, etc while the problem is investigated to see if it could endanger others. In the civilian world, there have been recalls and other actions from true accidents- including ones that affected firearms I owned.
A negligent discharge is a different beast. Knowing what we're really talking about is important.
I suppose we need do nothing more than reference Marriam Webster?
Accident:
1
a : an unforeseen and unplanned event or circumstance
b : lack of intention or necessity : chance <met by accident rather than by design>
2
a : an unfortunate event resulting especially from carelessness or ignorance
....
Not that I care. I call them all ND, but seriously if someone says "hey grab that clip for my AR15" you know they mean "magazine". I don't give a fucking lecture every time someone says "clip"....
Fair enough. But while magazine and clip are different in true firearms or engineering speak, we do indeed know what they mean and they are, for most purposes, interchangeable in terms of understanding their use. You can't say the same for AD vs ND- in the firearms world (where Webster is not very useful) they really do mean two different things that have very different causes and very different ramifications. Clarifying the difference is pretty far from coming down hard on folks about it, and not a bad thing.
Terminology matters, not that difficult to grasp:
AD => mechanical failure
ND => user failure
Shit happens when you dont, "treat every weapon as if it were loaded".
Glad the OP is okay.
Did OP have a 3.5 lb trigger ? I can't imagine this would be too easy to happen as described with a standard Glock 5-8lb trigger.
I could be wrong, some people have hoof-like senses in their fingers.

It was a 3.5 pound trigger. I think if it was the standard 5.5 my booger hook might not have been tight enough to fire it.
this is why I have a rule, all guns are always loaded even in the safe.
buy sigs they have a longer trigger pull
sold my glocks after spending too much time on arfcom looking at self inflicted wounds
First time I ever put my finger on the trigger of my friends Kimber Eclipse II I had an ND. This was probably the 2nd time I had shot a handgun so I was pretty green, which is still no excuse. Fortunately it was at the range pointed at the target as I was lining up my sight picture. Never again have I put my finger on the trigger until my sights are lined up on the target.
Glad the OP is ok...
To answer the original question yes i have. One night when I was sixteen I was cleaning a byf walther p38 for an older gentleman who let me borrow it for the weekend. I hadnt shot it yet but planned on doing so the next morning. While I was putting it all back together I accidently put the magazine in backwords and got it jammed in there pretty tight. When I finally got it out I thouht I may have bent the feed lips and decided to test it out. So I loaded the mag up with 8 rounds of WWB and placed it back down on my desk. I picked up the p38 and put the saftey ON, then locked the slide back and put the magazine in. With my finger off the trigger and it pointed at the bedroom floor I hit the slide relese with my thumb............... Next thing I know my ears are ringing and the pistol is pointing at THE CEALING and my dad running through the door wondering what the fuck is going on. Long story short the P38 has a falling block saftey and the steel block that keeps the hammer from hitting the firing pin was cracked. All 8 rounds went off going through my bedroom floor, wall, and cealing; one of wich almost hit my mother who was walking down stairs.
I was very fortounate that night just as you were with your glock. So learn from this expirence. Check, double check, and tripple check your guns. Its easy to forget if you chambered a round or not last time you picked the gun up, why leave it to memmory? Check to see. I know you didnt mean to, but the point I'm trying to make is you can easiy get too comfortable around your guns and your handleing practices and that can be a dangerous thing to do. I keep a 5 gallon bucket of sand in my basement for dry firing/ chambering rounds indoors. I feel like this is a good idea for everyone because these things really do happen.
Good luck and keep safe. I'm very glad no one was hurt
I had one, early in my shooting life.
I picked up a terrible and very cheap derringer. Took it to the range, and due to its obvious terribleness, decided I better try out its safety. Engaged the safety, pointed down range, pulled trigger, and off went a round of 38 special.
Then I returned to the gun store, very much unhappy. They bought it back from me, which was nice.
Haven't had one sense, and no plans on it.
Glad you are OK
Originally Posted By littlebobby:
To answer the original question yes i have. One night when I was sixteen I was cleaning a byf walther p38 for an older gentleman who let me borrow it for the weekend. I hadnt shot it yet but planned on doing so the next morning. While I was putting it all back together I accidently put the magazine in backwords and got it jammed in there pretty tight. When I finally got it out I thouht I may have bent the feed lips and decided to test it out. So I loaded the mag up with 8 rounds of WWB and placed it back down on my desk. I picked up the p38 and put the saftey ON, then locked the slide back and put the magazine in. With my finger off the trigger and it pointed at the bedroom floor I hit the slide relese with my thumb............... Next thing I know my ears are ringing and the pistol is pointing at THE CEALING and my dad running through the door wondering what the fuck is going on. Long story short the P38 has a falling block saftey and the steel block that keeps the hammer from hitting the firing pin was cracked. All 8 rounds went off going through my bedroom floor, wall, and cealing; one of wich almost hit my mother who was walking down stairs.
I was very fortounate that night just as you were with your glock. So learn from this expirence. Check, double check, and tripple check your guns. Its easy to forget if you chambered a round or not last time you picked the gun up, why leave it to memmory? Check to see. I know you didnt mean to, but the point I'm trying to make is you can easiy get too comfortable around your guns and your handleing practices and that can be a dangerous thing to do. I keep a 5 gallon bucket of sand in my basement for dry firing/ chambering rounds indoors. I feel like this is a good idea for everyone because these things really do happen.
Good luck and keep safe. I'm very glad no one was hurt
Holy crap!
A friend just had one in his house. He took his HK USP9 off, and while in the process of making the gun safe....Bang....The loudest gunshot he's ever heard. Thankfully he had it pointed in a safe direction. He called the cops and said that he heard a gunshot a couple houses down.
This is the reason I leave my carry guns loaded. My fiance knows which ones are loaded because of a designated table for pocket filth, CCW, and charging my phone. When people come over, she knows where they are supposed to go, and how to safely get them there.
Originally Posted By ainfantry7:
A friend just had one in his house. He took his HK USP9 off, and while in the process of making the gun safe....Bang....The loudest gunshot he's ever heard. Thankfully he had it pointed in a safe direction. He called the cops and said that he heard a gunshot a couple houses down.
Why would someone call and make a false police report to cover up a negligent discharge?

Several years back when I was on Sea Duty (US Navy) I was standing by to observe a watch turnover between 2 Security personnel. For whatever reason when the off-going guy cleared his M16 he had it pointing at the deck, more specifically at his shoe. He pulled the charging handle back (no magazine inserted) to clear the chamber (but obviously didn't look very well) took the safety off, pulled the trigger and shot himself in the foot. "Why didn't you stop him?" I was asked, "I didn't even know he was doing anything, I was getting the paperwork for him to sign when it happened, his relief hadn't even come into the armory yet.". Needless to say he was relieved from that duty indefinitely. He also lost a toe in the whole ordeal.
No,you are not the only one, I have done it also and with a g19
Originally Posted By skullbox:
I stand corrected, it was a negligent discharge.
The lighting in my safe went out. I started taking all the guns out so I could figure out what happened. I started with the rifles, took them all out and stacked them against the wall. I took the pistols out 1 by one and put then on top of the safe. It happened really fast but I guess I grabbed the glock with my finger inside the trigger guard. before I had the gun rested on the top of my safe BANG it went off. I was more like "no way that just happened" more than I was scared as it was pointed in a safe direction. Or at least away me or anything living/of value. I was the only one home at the time, but I think it really scared my cat. It left a few holes in my walls and I think it stopped in a beam or the ceiling somewhere.
My ears were ringing for a few hours afterwards. It's my personal rule that all the guns are unloaded when they go into the safe, but I had a few friends over and I think someone left it loaded... Whatever the case may be, it happened and luckly nobody was hurt and is easily fixed with some spackle.
After looking at what was in it, it looks to be 147 gr +P Golden Saber JHP. I've declaired March gun safety month in my house.

Originally Posted By TAP:
Originally Posted By ainfantry7:
A friend just had one in his house. He took his HK USP9 off, and while in the process of making the gun safe....Bang....The loudest gunshot he's ever heard. Thankfully he had it pointed in a safe direction. He called the cops and said that he heard a gunshot a couple houses down.
Why would someone call and make a false police report to cover up a negligent discharge?

That was not a police report that was an anonymous tip!

No I haven't.
All guns are loaded at all times...of which, mine really are. I run hot so there is no confusion.
Never let a friend "play" around the house. Take them to a range/outdoors...I realize stuff happens however...
Never point the muzzle at anything you are not willing to destroy (you did good).
Keep your finger of the bang switch until you are on target (you didn't do good...did you

)
I do appreciate post. In some way I believe it keeps myself and others on our toes.
Glad nothing too bad happened.
Originally Posted By bcauz3y:
Originally Posted By littlebobby:
To answer the original question yes i have. One night when I was sixteen I was cleaning a byf walther p38 for an older gentleman who let me borrow it for the weekend. I hadnt shot it yet but planned on doing so the next morning. While I was putting it all back together I accidently put the magazine in backwords and got it jammed in there pretty tight. When I finally got it out I thouht I may have bent the feed lips and decided to test it out. So I loaded the mag up with 8 rounds of WWB and placed it back down on my desk. I picked up the p38 and put the saftey ON, then locked the slide back and put the magazine in. With my finger off the trigger and it pointed at the bedroom floor I hit the slide relese with my thumb............... Next thing I know my ears are ringing and the pistol is pointing at THE CEALING and my dad running through the door wondering what the fuck is going on. Long story short the P38 has a falling block saftey and the steel block that keeps the hammer from hitting the firing pin was cracked. All 8 rounds went off going through my bedroom floor, wall, and cealing; one of wich almost hit my mother who was walking down stairs.
I was very fortounate that night just as you were with your glock. So learn from this expirence. Check, double check, and tripple check your guns. Its easy to forget if you chambered a round or not last time you picked the gun up, why leave it to memmory? Check to see. I know you didnt mean to, but the point I'm trying to make is you can easiy get too comfortable around your guns and your handleing practices and that can be a dangerous thing to do. I keep a 5 gallon bucket of sand in my basement for dry firing/ chambering rounds indoors. I feel like this is a good idea for everyone because these things really do happen.
Good luck and keep safe. I'm very glad no one was hurt
Holy crap!
That was pretty much my reaction as well.


lol. The reasn I posted this story was to show that no matter how safe you are, a gun can still go off. I dont care how many years you have in expirence or how hardcore your training is, shit still manages to happen. It's an imperfect world, try to plan for it as best you can.
