Beretta ARX-160: Will It Be Announced at SHOT 2012?

With all the marketing behind the Beretta ARX-160 in the last year I'm guessing we'll see some news on it at this years SHOT.

In fact, I'm going to make a prediction and say we'lll hear about a pending 2012 release.

Who agrees?

it would be nice, ether way Id probably wait a year or two after its release so whatever bugs/issues get worked out.

The Beretta booth will be close to the booth I am working at, I should know and be able to post here on the first day.

If they're really gonna do it, then I hope they release the SF version, which has an improved formula for the polymer shell & omits the integral sights for a continuous top rail.

I hope so, I'm *really* looking forward to this rifle. If I could only buy one gun in 2012, it would be the ARX.

Pretty sure its been issued to troops for awhile now. There might not be many bugs left.

I would gladly piss the wife off over this rifle.

It is a nice looking rifle, but the on the fly ejection direction switch would really only shine on a bullpup.

The ARX is the only rifle I plan on purchasing this year. Everything else that's in the plans is extras for rifles I already have. Optics, new uppers, slings, etc.

Yeah, I'm just pretty excited about this. I think it's going to be real competition for the SCAR and knowing Beretta I bet it will be much better priced.

Beretta has been really taking their US Civilian Presence up a notch.

As soon as the release date is announced, I am putting my XCR up for sale

Anyone else been expecting it since they posted this?

When the ACR came out (with a flop!) I was so disappointed that I bought the Colt LE6940 for $1600.00 instead. I know I could have saved some money if I had waited a little longer but I couldn't wait anymore. I just had to buy something!

Now I have built up my cash stash again and this will be next.

This is much better than the SCAR or the ACR.

Wish it had a removable pistol grip for the sake of modularity. Also wish the magazine well was a bit de-bulked.

+1

i will buy one the day they come out and it will be the first 556/223 rifle i own.

Was super excited about this until I found out how you take the weapon down. This will be an absolute no go for any state that requires ban compliance in which you cannot have a collapsible / foldable stock...

OST

Why would your wife get pissed off? When mine axes how much that ARX cost - $399!

Problem solved.

BAD ASS RIFLE!

Pretty sure in the youtube vid that the Beretta dude mentioned that it would have a removable grip.

I seriously doubt it. Grip assembly maybe but not the grip.

on a side note

About the ugliest thing to come out of italy but still want one

Does is take standard AR mags?

Yes.

I personally don't know about compatibility with Pmags or the like.

Meh,
This is one rifle that just really doesn't appeal to me at all. I can't imagine with a barrel that just snaps in, that it could be accurate or repeatable. Having played with Beretta's other plastic toys perhaps has jaded me.

WE shall see. So far, I'm not all that impressed.

For one thing, there's very little lower rail space. Hopefully the civvie model fixes that, otherwise, no way.

I'm convcerned the magwell will limite the types of mags it can use. Also, I'm farily certain that the barrel will have RTZ issues using a "clicky" barrel retention system (really need use a torque-based system, as the ACR demonstrates).

The stock is pretty austere.... not really impressed with that, so far, either.

Still, I'm curiuous...

If it becomes available, at a reasonable price and is acceptably accurate and reliable, I will consider purchasing one. It is intruiging.

I have to admit being a bit of a Beretta junkie, so yeah... I'd probably get one.

I'd glad it takes AR mags, I don't enjoy paying extra for Beretta mags.

+1

I have a CX4. For the 499$ I paid for it, it's ok. It has the worst trigger i've ever set my finger on. Fun plinker, but it makes me very skeptical of anything they would market as a serious rifle at a serious price!!! Let alone calling it better than a SCAR, thats laughable at this point!! It has zero useful features to me as an end user over a SCAR.

Topher Grace lookalike?

Why do so many of these style rifles look like someone took an AR and had extra kydex laying around and decided to bond them. I like the ideas, but come on, how bulky do they really need to be?

I don't see it as bulky, I don't think it weighs more than an M4.

I'm the last guy to say anything other than buy what you like. You want it....... Go for it!!!!

The only part that looks like it's bulky is the magwell/forward handguard section. On the ARX-160 that was done to accommodate the attached grenade launcher. I hope (as in I don't know for sure, but it makes sense) that they'll make it simpler for a single under-barrel rail or just a smooth handguard, and it should be better looking then.

It's pretty light really.

It only looks bulky because of the smooth curves in the shape, and that most of the photos floating around are very short barrel versions. It's not bad at all really. It does need a longer front handguard but in fairness, it's as long as a SCAR or M4 handguard. As long as manufacturers keep pushing rifles that are intended to be convertible to 10" barrels, we're going to be stuck with limited usefulness handguard lengths.


There's a big curved section that fits in that space that is removable, if you search around there's probably a pic with it removed. It's kind of intended as a comfortable grip for carrying at low ready, or for a magwell-type hold.

I don't get why manufacturers insist on reciprocating charging handles. At least the didn't put it where it will bite you

Serves as a forward assist. You can immediately tell the position of the bolt.

Fuck Beretta.

I had a personal in depth demo on this rifle 2 years ago and the designers seems to have thought of everything, the construction felt more solid/robust then other examples in its class (in a purely subjective way) almost to a fault (felt a little bulky) at that time there were whispers of a civilian variant.... despite it feeling bulky I'd be excited to own a copy.

Also it helps if you have certain malfunctions. It's not a negative, so long as it doesn't either bite you or get in the way when there's optics involved (ala SCAR).

Yeah, I know. The AUG also uses a similar kind of tool-less QC bbl. & it's an utter POS.

Well that's just great.

Also it's at least a little cheaper, simpler, and lighter.

true the scar was a failure I shot my buddies and i traditionally use a mag well grip and man that thing bit me hard. and I know there are plenty non-reciprocating charging handles that that work just fine a la LWRC REPR

No it wasn't. Reciprocating CH aren't for everybody but you definitely can't call the SCAR a failure for it.

Wow, scratch the ARX off my want list.

Ayup. I had just purchased a Beretta 87T when that thread hit...I kinda want to get rid of it, but it's such a nice piece..

But, that's the end of buying Beretta, and most other Italian marques, for me.

FYI Washington Times reporter has an article on visiting the Beretta Plant in MD and reports ARX will be release in 2012. Has video of reporter firing ARX at the plant. Do have issues with Beretta supporting gun control in Italy but still will buy the ARX if it comes available.

http://p.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2012/jan/6/miller-making-guns-near-dc/

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