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rigger7  [Member]
3/1/2011 10:49:01 PM
Are there any 45 acp bolt action rifles out there?
I'm not looking for anything mag fed and I do
not want to convert a enfield.
What kind of action would be required long,
short?
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advntrjnky  [Member]
3/1/2011 10:57:19 PM
only other one i have seen was a savage110/stevens 200 action with a .45acp barrel screwed on. IIRC it was single shot only, but the owner was working on getting it to feed from some type of magazine. there have been some mauser '98s.

advntrjnky
echo_5  [Team Member]
3/1/2011 11:13:46 PM
Suppression project?
urbanpi  [Team Member]
3/1/2011 11:25:48 PM
DeLisle Carbine converted .303 enfields:

Ameshawki  [Member]
3/2/2011 9:42:41 AM
Friend converted an old SMLE into a poor man's DeLisle once, but that's the only one I've ever seen. There's been a few semi autos over the years, but no bolt guns that I can think of. Can't imagine there would be much of a market for it.
1IV  [Team Member]
3/2/2011 10:20:31 AM
I bet it would not be hard to convert a handi rifle..... Hmmmmm




Never mind !!!! Here is a guy that makes barrel inserts for 12 gauge 20 gauge etc!!!
You have to call to get the , 45acp brl

http://www.mcace.com/shotguninserts.htm
45acp
Steve_T_M  [Member]
3/2/2011 6:29:54 PM
Valkyrie Arms made a Deslile carbine, NFA and non-NFA versions

IIRC they were about $2000 plus the cost of the stamps

It's magazine fed though
Slug-O  [Team Member]
3/2/2011 6:35:37 PM
Ruger made a 45 camp rifle..... Hard to find.
urbanpi  [Team Member]
3/2/2011 9:02:03 PM

Originally Posted By Slug-O:
Ruger made a 45 camp rifle..... Hard to find.

That was the Marlin Camp Carbine. Ruger made theirs in .40 and 9mm (PC-40 and PC-9) and it was more durable than the Marlin.
FunBobby  [Team Member]
3/2/2011 9:32:07 PM
There's a local Smith that converts Mausers to .45ACP, I think he charges around $200. They're 3-4 shots if I recall...
kingston_fisher  [Team Member]
3/2/2011 11:30:19 PM
There is a guy that uses the barrel shank from a rifle caliber Handi-rifle and press fits a barrel chambered in 45 ACP into the shank. He then pins it and turns down the profile of the whole unit and it looks pretty good when finished. I think the price was over $400 though. I figured that by the time I bought the rifle, had the barrel modified, and then threaded, I'd have close to $600 in the gun. That was not what I was willing to pay for project "silent possum blaster" I'll try to find a link to the guy that does the barrel work.

ETA: I was wrong, the barrel is stubbed in. He threads the barrel and puts it into the old barrel stub. No welding involved. D&T custom gunworks.

I am wanting a 16" bolt action or single shot 45ACP rifle as well. I don't want a converted SMLE either. I think the Stevens model 200 is the best way to go because you can always switch it back to 243 or 308 if you want to. I was thinking the cost going that route would be just over $400 if you got the rifle used and you would still have the factory barrel.
KB7DX  [Team Member]
3/3/2011 8:44:49 PM
Rhineland arms makes a kit to convert a Mauser action to .45acp. It uses 1911 mags too. It won't work with the shorter Yugo Mausers, but works with the K98 length actions. They have a conversion for an Enfield too.
Rhineland
jcoffman55  [Team Member]
3/5/2011 12:38:33 AM
saw a local gunsmith make one out of a remington 788 action. He made a mag well block to make the thing run from a 1911 mag. Put a suppressor on it and it was the tits. I got to shoot it several times. On of though.
Dolomite_Supafly  [Team Member]
3/5/2011 1:31:56 PM
Here is my wife's 45 ACP bolt gun.

The action is a Savage/Stevens 200 with the same bolt head as a .308 Remington, .473. The barrel is a 16 twist Shilen match barrel with a .451 groove that was finished like a Remington action with a shoulder rather than use a barrel nut. The barrel is cut to an overall length of 17" and 1" in diameter up to the chamber. The front sights are Tech Sights that are made for .920 barreled 10/22's. I had the end of the barrel machined for a press it of the Tech Sites. The rear sights are Williams WGRS with a ghost ring.
Anyways, here are the pictures, enjoy:
Front sight:

A few views:


Rear sight:

Sight picture:

The rifle was built for my wife to use for nuisance animals that show up on our property. She has a few other guns she can use but they are either too loud to be used without ears or don't have enough knock down to reliably drop them if the shot isn't perfect. She is a phenomenal shot but sometimes the shots need to be made in the middle of the night in less than ideal conditions and in the past the animals have escaped to no doubt die a miserable death. She liked the idea of ghost ring irons over a red dot because there is nothing to turn on before shooting. The stock is going to be getting replaced at some point, this stock is my project stock that every Savage wears when I am working on them. I can say that even with less than ideal shots this puts down the nuisance animals well. It is also quiet enough that most neighbors don't hear it and it doesn't "ring" your ears if you do have to shoot without hearing protection.

Here are some loads, the 250 grain SST's remind me of a midget 450 Bushmater:

The others are 230 grain GDHP's that work really well. I recently picked up some Power Pistol and that relly woke the gun up. I have loaded some 200 grain SWC's over the max load of PP and it is amazing how it shoots now, both in power level and the trajectory. It is pretty much point and shoot well past 50 yards which is all we need it for. Even with the max load the primers are still nice and round.

Another advantage to this setup is I can use HEAVY bullets. I recently loaded some 300 grain SP's until I started to see pressure signs. It definitely hits hard but has the drop of a mortar, it is great out to about 35 yards though. I think I will try some slower powders to get the velocity up a bit before the pressure builds and see what happens. I have been looking locally for some even heavier stuff to try, I would love to find some 400+ grainers just for grins but I don't think the throat is long enough.

Dolomite
rigger7  [Member]
3/5/2011 3:49:22 PM
How did you get the barrel on the Savage? Is this a single shot?
xm177e2687  [Team Member]
3/5/2011 5:08:49 PM
I believe there is an Ingram designed .45acp bolt action rifle, good luck finding it though. Manufacted by MAC in powder springs GA
Dolomite_Supafly  [Team Member]
3/6/2011 3:11:12 AM
Originally Posted By rigger7:
How did you get the barrel on the Savage? Is this a single shot?


The barrel is available from Brownells:
SHILEN : PISTOL BARREL
SKU: 787-451-160

The rear sights are Williams WGRS, also available from Brownells:
WILLIAMS GUN SIGHT : "WGRS" RECEIVER SIGHTS
SKU: 962-000-068

The front sight is a Tech Sight for a .920 barrel 10/22:
Tech-SIGHTS Precision Shooting Accessories
.920 Barrel Dovetail Adaptor for Ruger 10/22
Item #: TS157 for $15

Front Sight Tower Assembly:
Item #: TSR110 for $22

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Take the barrel blank to a smith and have them thread, chamber and turn the muzzle for the .920 sight base. Install it into the Savage receiver and set headspace, it is easy as pie on a Savage. Especially for a low pressure round like the 45 ACP. Then press fit the sight base onto the .920 portion at the muzzle. Install the WGRS sights and zero.

I took a chance on the sight heights and it is like they were made for eachother.

Problem with using a Savage is the empties get dropped just out of the chamber but still in the receiver so you have to do one of two things. One, mill the receiver aft of the barrel end so the empties can get ejected without getting caught up. Or two, flip the ejector to disable it and pluck the empties off the bolt face. I use the later method as it doesn't permanently alter the gun. My wife doesn't mind it either. It is easier than fishing the empty out of the receiver and we can load and fire quite fast using this second method.

It makes for a nice, easy shooting gun with enough knock down to take care of anything it might come across here in East Tennessee. It is also relatively quiet as well with factory ammunition.

Dolomite
rigger7  [Member]
3/6/2011 12:37:24 PM
Thanks for all the info,that is one nice looking rifle that you have there.
NVGdude  [Member]
3/7/2011 1:34:32 AM
Hey Dolomite.

Two words: Blue Dot. Normally it's pretty flashy, but a 17" barrel out to take care of that.
DrDeath  [Member]
3/7/2011 2:54:47 AM
genius
DanTSX  [Team Member]
3/10/2011 9:51:19 PM

Originally Posted By urbanpi:
DeLisle Carbine converted .303 enfields:

http://www.specialinterestarms.com/MVC-119E.JPG
I want one of these!

Any info on it? Any good builders out there for them?

Combat_Diver  [Team Member]
3/11/2011 5:24:37 AM
As stated a .45 ACP case head is .473" same as .30-06, 7/8mm Mauser or .308 family of cartridges. Hardest part would just be adding a new barrel and then coming up with a fix follower for the magazine.

CD
Dolomite_Supafly  [Team Member]
3/11/2011 8:05:44 AM
Adding a new barrel is simple, no more difficult than a standard barrel change. Depending on the platform working out an ejector can be a huge pain. After working out an ejector figuring out a magazine would be pretty simple.

Generally firearms with rear lugs tend to be better suited because the barrel comes back farther into the receiver than a front lugged action.

I have a Reminton 580 I have been contemplating on chambering in somehting like 5.7x28 or possible 7.62x25 Tokarev.

Dolomite
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