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 Just pull out this pin and its Full-Auto
skeeters65  [Team Member]
2/23/2010 5:01:53 PM EST
Well it finally happened to me. I was at my buddies shop working on my Trailblazer SS and some kid 25yrs old or so comes in to have him look at his truck. Well he has a rifle case in it so we say what do you got??
He pulls out a Stag M4 with a Tru Glow scope on it. He got it so he could shoot coyotes!! Not really the right set up but anyway..
I said Stag makes a nice gun I got a few myself..
Then he said it.. "Best part is you can make it FULL-AUTO by just pushing out 1 pin"
I said "NO YOU CANT"
He argues with me a bit..
I tell him I will give him $1000.00 if he can do it right now.
Well my brother knows how he is in the Military.
I said NO HE CANT EITHER..

Any way he finally gave up then told me how he could make a 1911 Full-Auto..
I almost pulled my 1911 from my Crossbread Supertuck and said go for it but just shook my head and laughed..
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DansFlash  [Team Member]
2/23/2010 4:38:37 PM EST
I told you then and I am tellin you know My brothers cousins neice's boyfriend can do it.
damcv62  [Team Member]
2/23/2010 4:43:28 PM EST
Well, sure, someones brothers uncle can make it happen.

But really. Anyone with a drill press or other drill could do it. Not that it would be legal. And from what he said, taking out one pin to make it full auto? You'd have to add a pin. And a different FCG. Never mind. What he said makes no sense.
skeeters65  [Team Member]
2/23/2010 4:45:34 PM EST
I wanted to say let me go get my M16 and show you the difference!!
casey1  [Team Member]
2/23/2010 4:45:43 PM EST
You guys didn't buy the anti-auto pin removal tool. To bad they stopped making them last week.
echo_5  [Team Member]
2/23/2010 4:48:36 PM EST
So, are you out $1000 or not?

458winmag  [Team Member]
2/23/2010 4:49:54 PM EST
Hill Folk can make all kinds of stuff, not function as designed. What were you going to with the 1K$ you didn't get?
458
combat45acp  [Member]
2/23/2010 4:59:09 PM EST
1st you take the pin halfway out hook to your belt loop and "bump it"...kids these days! You should have asked him more questions to glean from his vast knowledge.
MichigamaGunslinger  [Team Member]
2/23/2010 5:00:26 PM EST
Yeah I had this guy tell me he was a Marine and that they took the "buffers" out of AR15s so they aren't full auto. In-front of the gunstore clerk, I explained to him in detail what the mechanical differences between a semi and full auto AR were, and politely explained why he was so horribly wrong. Then I recommended him to this website

Something tells me he wasn't really a marine. If he was, who the hell is teaching these guys? Bozo the Clown?
Ridge_Runner_5  [Team Member]
2/23/2010 5:02:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By MichigamaGunslinger:
Yeah I had this guy tell me he was a Marine and that they took the "buffers" out of AR15s so they aren't full auto. In-front of the gunstore clerk, I explained to him in detail what the mechanical differences between a semi and full auto AR were, and politely explained why he was so horribly wrong. Then I recommended him to this website

Something tells me he wasn't really a marine. If he was, who the hell is teaching these guys? Bozo the Clown?

Well, he IS right...it sure as hell aint gonna be full auto after he removes the buffer...
combat45acp  [Member]
2/23/2010 5:03:37 PM EST
Originally Posted By Ridge_Runner_5:

Originally Posted By MichigamaGunslinger:
Yeah I had this guy tell me he was a Marine and that they took the "buffers" out of AR15s so they aren't full auto. In-front of the gunstore clerk, I explained to him in detail what the mechanical differences between a semi and full auto AR were, and politely explained why he was so horribly wrong. Then I recommended him to this website

Something tells me he wasn't really a marine. If he was, who the hell is teaching these guys? Bozo the Clown?

Well, he IS right...it sure as hell aint gonna be full auto after he removes the buffer...


LOL
MichigamaGunslinger  [Team Member]
2/23/2010 5:06:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By combat45acp:
Originally Posted By Ridge_Runner_5:

Originally Posted By MichigamaGunslinger:
Yeah I had this guy tell me he was a Marine and that they took the "buffers" out of AR15s so they aren't full auto. In-front of the gunstore clerk, I explained to him in detail what the mechanical differences between a semi and full auto AR were, and politely explained why he was so horribly wrong. Then I recommended him to this website

Something tells me he wasn't really a marine. If he was, who the hell is teaching these guys? Bozo the Clown?

Well, he IS right...it sure as hell aint gonna be full auto after he removes the buffer...


LOL

haha true. I guess it would be a one shot wonder
skeeters65  [Team Member]
2/23/2010 5:06:55 PM EST
Originally Posted By echo_5:
So, are you out $1000 or not?



I hope you know the answer to that!!

skeeters65  [Team Member]
2/23/2010 5:07:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By 458winmag:
Hill Folk can make all kinds of stuff, not function as designed. What were you going to with the 1K$ you didn't get?
458


Que??
halfmoonclip  [Member]
2/23/2010 6:33:57 PM EST
I agree, country boys can do some mighty creative stuff to things mechanical. Sometimes the magic works and sometimes it doesn't.

Unhappily, this 'take the pin out' shit, along with its first cousin 'file the sear' finds its way into the thinking of our Congresscritters,who then believe it as Gospel. This is especially true of those who don't know a muzzle from a buttplate. Gives 'em another reason to ban those evil black rifles.
Moon
cosmos556  [Team Member]
2/24/2010 3:36:34 AM EST
HA, classic. I always liked the "file down the hammer and you have a full auto AR15" story

And it doesn't necessarily take a country boy to make an AR15 go full auto. Ever seen how simple a lightning link is?? It's pure genius!!
TxLewis  [Life Member]
2/24/2010 4:41:56 AM EST
A dear friend of mine once said:
It does not matter if you have a full auto weapon on the first day of the revolution, cause there will plenty available on day 2 of the revolution.

RIP Wayne.

TXL
JamesP81  [Team Member]
2/24/2010 8:00:48 AM EST
Originally Posted By Ridge_Runner_5:

Originally Posted By MichigamaGunslinger:
Yeah I had this guy tell me he was a Marine and that they took the "buffers" out of AR15s so they aren't full auto. In-front of the gunstore clerk, I explained to him in detail what the mechanical differences between a semi and full auto AR were, and politely explained why he was so horribly wrong. Then I recommended him to this website

Something tells me he wasn't really a marine. If he was, who the hell is teaching these guys? Bozo the Clown?

Well, he IS right...it sure as hell aint gonna be full auto after he removes the buffer...


But it will be full retard
mercdank  [Member]
2/24/2010 10:06:43 AM EST
Sounds like a troll IRL.
DCMoney  [Member]
2/24/2010 12:18:14 PM EST
Last week I heard some one say out loud that all it takes is a paper clip...

After another guy mentioned bout his (insert random relative) could make him a full auto one for 1k.

This is in Illinois to...

Its said because these are people that own guns mainly fudd guns but still they vote and they don’t even know the laws Federal and State.
AN94NK  [Member]
2/24/2010 12:35:04 PM EST
Originally Posted By DCMoney:
Last week I heard some one say out loud that all it takes is a paper clip...

actually.. that does work. I traded for a mini-14 at a gun show once that had a paper clip in it..(Im not going into details of where the paper clip was)
It wasnt F/A. Just an unsafe & highly illegal 2 round burst..
Very ingenuous though
EDIT: btw I took it out as soon as I got home
XCRmonger  [Team Member]
2/24/2010 1:11:41 PM EST
AN94NK  [Member]
2/24/2010 2:06:14 PM EST
lol yeah I know...
XLNARC  [Member]
2/24/2010 2:59:36 PM EST
never did hear the "remove the pin=full auto"...BUT...the old "file trick" has been mentioned about 4 trillion times to even include making a Ruger Number 1 full auto
WesJanson  [Member]
2/24/2010 3:05:35 PM EST
I did once inspect a S&W M&P15 that had walked the pin loose, and consequently would shoot several-round bursts before jamming every time the trigger was pulled. Re-seating the pin solved the problem...
skeeters65  [Team Member]
2/24/2010 3:44:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By AN94NK:
Originally Posted By DCMoney:
Last week I heard some one say out loud that all it takes is a paper clip...

actually.. that does work. I traded for a mini-14 at a gun show once that had a paper clip in it..(Im not going into details of where the paper clip was)
It wasnt F/A. Just an unsafe & highly illegal 2 round burst..
Very ingenuous though
EDIT: btw I took it out as soon as I got home



I know exactly what you are talking about!!!

rlc  [Team Member]
2/24/2010 4:23:24 PM EST
Originally Posted By 458winmag:
Hill Folk can make all kinds of stuff, not function as designed. What were you going to with the 1K$ you didn't get?
458


+1

used to see lots of interesting things at some local 'mountian region' gunshows, back in the 80's



glazer1972  [Life Member]
2/24/2010 4:47:20 PM EST
Pigaloo  [Member]
2/24/2010 4:55:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By halfmoonclip:
I agree, country boys can do some mighty creative stuff to things mechanical. Sometimes the magic works and sometimes it doesn't.

Unhappily, this 'take the pin out' shit, along with its first cousin 'file the sear' finds its way into the thinking of our Congresscritters,who then believe it as Gospel. This is especially true of those who don't know a muzzle from a buttplate. Gives 'em another reason to ban those evil black rifles.
Moon


You forgot about "filing down the firing pin"...
Ranxerox911  [Member]
2/24/2010 5:17:52 PM EST
I made my great-grandfather's break-action 12 ga full auto by filing down the pin with a shoestring. Probably too tactical for most of you Yahoos to handle, though.
cosmos556  [Team Member]
2/24/2010 5:18:50 PM EST
Originally Posted By Ranxerox911:
I made my great-grandfather's break-action 12 ga full auto by filing down the pin with a shoestring. Probably too tactical for most of you Yahoos to handle, though.


You admitted it online - get the IIIA vest for the dog!!








Ranxerox911  [Member]
2/24/2010 5:27:57 PM EST
Originally Posted By cosmos556:
Originally Posted By Ranxerox911:
I made my great-grandfather's break-action 12 ga full auto by filing down the pin with a shoestring. Probably too tactical for most of you Yahoos to handle, though.


You admitted it online - get the IIIA vest for the dog!!










Errr, I keep it at my Aunt Nancy Pelosi's house. She lives here in D.C.


ETA:

Note to ATF - Make sure you don't forget the cat.

Noname  [Team Member]
2/24/2010 9:09:00 PM EST


I thort you hadda file down the shoestring...
MG42--Slayer  [Member]
3/17/2010 5:45:15 AM EST
Originally Posted By skeeters65:
Well it finally happened to me. I was at my buddies shop working on my Trailblazer SS and some kid 25yrs old or so comes in to have him look at his truck. Well he has a rifle case in it so we say what do you got??
He pulls out a Stag M4 with a Tru Glow scope on it. He got it so he could shoot coyotes!! Not really the right set up but anyway..
I said Stag makes a nice gun I got a few myself..
Then he said it.. "Best part is you can make it FULL-AUTO by just pushing out 1 pin"
I said "NO YOU CANT"
He argues with me a bit..
I tell him I will give him $1000.00 if he can do it right now.
Well my brother knows how he is in the Military.
I said NO HE CANT EITHER..

Any way he finally gave up then told me how he could make a 1911 Full-Auto..
I almost pulled my 1911 from my Crossbread Supertuck and said go for it but just shook my head and laughed..


I can shoot mine full auto with out any mods
BulletBait  [Team Member]
3/17/2010 5:58:45 AM EST
Originally Posted By MG42––Slayer:

I can shoot mine full auto with out any mods




Zaphod  [Life Member]
3/17/2010 3:31:58 PM EST

Originally Posted By AN94NK:
Originally Posted By DCMoney:
Last week I heard some one say out loud that all it takes is a paper clip...

actually.. that does work. I traded for a mini-14 at a gun show once that had a paper clip in it..(Im not going into details of where the paper clip was)
It wasnt F/A. Just an unsafe & highly illegal 2 round burst..
Very ingenuous though
EDIT: btw I took it out as soon as I got home

I always figured you could make a mini into FA by removing the sear.

Now, illegality aside, what safety issues does such a moronic move raise? Overheat and cookoff?
M4-Daddy  [Member]
3/17/2010 7:09:18 PM EST
If you super glue the bolt to your thumb it will go full-auto, really.
ToePic  [Team Member]
3/18/2010 5:10:09 AM EST
Me and a friend were talking about .17 HMR riffles for plinking when some guy decides to impress us with how much he knows and claims he shot a friend's brother's cousin's roomate's full auto DESERT EAGLE. Now I have never shot a desert eagle but I'm pretty sure they don't make a full auto. Correct me if I'm wrong but this was one of those guys who played counter strike and thinks he is a weapons expert now.
MadDogDan  [Member]
3/18/2010 5:19:11 AM EST
You are correct. IMI now IWI never made a full auto version of their Desert Eagle as far as I know and if they did there most likely are no transferables in the US. If you screw up the sear as I did (my first trigger job) on a 1911 it is possible for your handgun to run burst or even full auto. My 1911 some 30 years ago ran in 3 burst mode and once emptied a 7 round mag with a single pull of the trigger. I stoned the sear at the wrong angle. The sear would hold the hammer back when you chambered a round but it would not engage the hammer notch properly after the first shot was fired and would take at least three rounds fired to catch. I purchased another sear and started over again on a custom trigger job. I got it right the second time.

MadDog
markfall  [Member]
3/18/2010 5:46:12 AM EST
I've concidered carrying a file with me to demolish mouthbreather's firing pins when I hear this from them. "damn, I thought it would work too"
tep0583  [Member]
3/18/2010 8:09:10 AM EST
Originally Posted By BulletBait:
Originally Posted By MG42––Slayer:

I can shoot mine full auto with out any mods


http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r128/BulletBait1969/haha_Mosin-bump.jpg



I LOL'd

GaryM  [Team Member]
3/18/2010 8:19:03 AM EST
Originally Posted By AN94NK:
Originally Posted By DCMoney:
Last week I heard some one say out loud that all it takes is a paper clip...

actually.. that does work. I traded for a mini-14 at a gun show once that had a paper clip in it..(Im not going into details of where the paper clip was)
It wasnt F/A. Just an unsafe & highly illegal 2 round burst..
Very ingenuous though
EDIT: btw I took it out as soon as I got home


Seen the same on a 10/22. It would fire 3-5 rounds then jam but hey, it did work as he said it would.
I was very happy to see that rifle leave the area.
50cal  [Team Member]
3/18/2010 8:19:36 AM EST
Originally Posted By casey1:
You guys didn't buy the anti-auto pin removal tool. To bad they stopped making them last week.


Damn!

M4-Daddy  [Member]
3/18/2010 8:36:52 AM EST
I can bump-fire my dasiy red rider but don't tell the Govt.......
inop  [Team Member]
3/18/2010 5:31:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By M4-Daddy:
I can bump-fire my dasiy red rider but don't tell the Govt.......
They make full auto bb guns.







I kinda want one.

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