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matchlite  [Member]
12/29/2004 10:23:05 AM
Has anyone attempted to rebarrel a mini 14? I have never seen just the barrels
for sale. Every bit of info that I can find seems to indicate that the people that
sell barrels want to install them for you. I have full access to a machine shop,
and if need be I would build the special tools that may be required. I'm fully
prepared to tackle this project, especially seeing that in my opinion, darned near
every mini 14 needs a better barrel. Thanks for any input.
djenkins  [Member]
12/29/2004 12:52:49 PM
www.brownells.com

DJ



Originally Posted By matchlite:
Has anyone attempted to rebarrel a mini 14? I have never seen just the barrels
for sale. Every bit of info that I can find seems to indicate that the people that
sell barrels want to install them for you. I have full access to a machine shop,
and if need be I would build the special tools that may be required. I'm fully
prepared to tackle this project, especially seeing that in my opinion, darned near
every mini 14 needs a better barrel. Thanks for any input.

Dano523  [Team Member]
12/29/2004 12:57:26 PM
Brownells sells 223 Douglas barrel blanks for $160.25, And Shilen's Blanks for $143.25.

My thoughts are if you have the tools and the talent, then why trust/pay someone else to do what you are well capable of accomplishing.
A_Free_Man  [Member]
12/29/2004 1:13:06 PM
Accuracy Systems rebarrels Mini's with heavier barrels. Prices are in the $500 range.


www.accuracysystemsinc.com/ruger_mini_prices.html

www.accuracysystemsinc.com/mini_14_30_accessories.html
matchlite  [Member]
12/29/2004 1:13:50 PM
Thanks gang! I appreciate the info. I was wondering what was actually
needed to perform the swap, as I haven't torn into one yet. IE is the barrel
threaded into the receiver, or pressed in and pinned? Anybody have any first
hand knowledge? Thanks again for any input.
mildbill39  [Member]
12/29/2004 6:47:01 PM
Sent my 25 year old Mini to Ruger for rebarrel early this year. $160 for new barrel, gas block, bolt and piston. They completly refinished all the metal. If you have any modified parts on the rifle they just replace them.

I did a little stock work and it now shoots about as well as I can with iron sights.

A few short strokes the first hundred rounds and now it runs like a top again.

It's been my experience that the repair people at firearms companys put the guns back together with a little more skill or maybe care than the production line.

I'm satisfied.
PALADIN-hgwt  [Team Member]
12/29/2004 9:12:06 PM
Did they return your original parts?

Paladin
Dano523  [Team Member]
12/29/2004 11:42:31 PM
Barrel is threaded into the receiver.

Also, depending how thick of a profile you turn the new barrel, you might have to mill a new gas block. The old one can be reamed to a point, but not much larger (no way close to the bull barrel. When you go to drill the barrel gas port, stay small and work it up threw test firings. This will save you from having to install a port reducer to slow the action down.

Also, almost forgot the most important thing, Glass the action into the stock. The factory fit on their receiver to stock is beyond shitty.
mattld  [Team Member]
12/30/2004 12:02:19 AM
Tag.
24ksports  [Member]
12/31/2004 9:17:12 AM
mildbill - sounds like a very good option. how did you contact Ruger to arrange for the work to be done ? Do you think the new bbl shhots any better than the old one did when it was new ? ie. has Ruger improved factory accuracy any ?
AK_Mike  [Team Member]
12/31/2004 11:45:24 AM

Originally Posted By mildbill39:
If you have any modified parts on the rifle they just replace them.



Heed this statement. If you need parts to repair a mini-14, you are pretty much forced to send it back to Ruger for repair, parts for sale are extremely rare. If you have any modified parts, they will either not repair it or they will restore it to original configuration. If you install your own barrel and have to one day send it back to Ruger for repair, IMO they are going to refuse repair or they are going to yank your barrel and replace it with one of theirs. This is just one of the drawbacks with Ruger. If you obtain a Ruger folding stock and have it on the rifle when you send it in, they will remove it and put it back in the original stock (not that they even have any folding stocks available for repair/replacement purposes).

Just something to keep in mind when messing around with the mini-14's configuration.

If you need spare parts, just send the rifle in with those parts taken out and they will send the rifle back complete.
Tommmo  [Member]
12/31/2004 7:54:59 PM
Bought a Shilen match barrel from www.brownells.com. Installed it using an AR15 vise type barrel block and a Brownells M14 head on their action wrench. Wrapped several layers of masking tape around action to help compensate for difference in size.

Barrel headspaced with no adjustments, just had to drill gas port hole. Must have measured it a dozen times so I would not screw the pooch!. Used a target style clamp from sight base from ww.champschoice.com; Brownells also sells them. Mounted a globe front sight. Rifle really shoots great.
Mak762  [Member]
1/1/2005 7:15:54 PM
ive seen people cut the barrels down that seems to help accuracy.
jor-el  [Team Member]
1/2/2005 4:39:14 PM
For the DIYer on the cheap, Numrich Gun Parts Corporation has barrel takeoffs for like thirty bucks or so.
mattld  [Team Member]
1/2/2005 5:05:39 PM
Has anyone had work done to their Mini-14 by Accuracy Systems?
AK_Mike  [Team Member]
1/3/2005 12:25:06 AM

Originally Posted By Mak762:
ive seen people cut the barrels down that seems to help accuracy.



I'm very inclined to believe this. The Mini-14's barrel is notorious for whipping. It's sometimes difficult to use with a suppressor because the whipping sometimes causes baffle strikes.

In any case, the shorter the barrel (of the same contour) the stiffer, less whip, easier to use potential accuracy.

I've heard only good things about outfits like Accuracy Systems. Most of it is as posted is rebarreling with a heavy barrel. There are also barrel tensioning devices available that increase accuracy and I have seen at least one post on how to make your own cheapass homebuilt barrel tensioner (damned if it didn't work!).
mildbill39  [Member]
1/3/2005 7:01:47 PM

Originally Posted By PALADIN-hgwt:
Did they return your original parts?

Paladin



I sent it to Ruger in stock confiuration except for the gas block which I just modified again when I got it back. It's a liability issue on their part. Can't blame them.

MIld Bill
mildbill39  [Member]
1/3/2005 7:21:35 PM

Originally Posted By 24ksports:
mildbill - sounds like a very good option. how did you contact Ruger to arrange for the work to be done ? Do you think the new bbl shhots any better than the old one did when it was new ? ie. has Ruger improved factory accuracy any ?



I got the contact info from the owners manual.
I think their barrels are better the last few years. The new barrel is 1 in 9 and the old one was 1 in 12 twist. Not sure if it's better than new since when it was new I just shot ball ammo. I tightened up the bedding and have it on a "V" Max diet now. Iron sights, two inches. Years ago I had scope mounts on another one but it beat the hell out of scopes. Oh, and I got a better apperture on the rear now.

The problem with those heavy barrel conversions is the cost and the weight.

Regards,
Mild Bill
MRW  [Team Member]
1/6/2005 10:33:08 PM
So what did you do to the gas block/ stock to improve accuracy? OOW, what can I do to mine that will make it more like yours?

My Mini is my PC house gun

Thanks.
wganz  [Team Member]
1/7/2005 12:39:18 AM
Is it true that there aren't parts for the original 180 series of Mini 14s?

I've got a stainless one in that series back in my father's safe that I'm tempted on dumping if that is the case.

wganz
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