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 Gun kote or Cerakote?
Xcombatmp  [Member]
4/28/2011 1:28:34 PM EST
re-fishing my Colt lower, which coating holds up the best to scratches and chips, Gun kote or Cerakote, please let me know your experience with each and pics if you have them.
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artsohc  [Team Member]
4/28/2011 9:56:40 AM EST
One product by two different names.

Kote = Kote
cmcflex  [Team Member]
4/28/2011 9:59:22 AM EST
Take a look at Norrell's moly resin.
TeamWalker400  [Member]
4/28/2011 10:02:36 AM EST
Same, same.

Good products, just be careful baking the stuff, it stinks to high heaven. As with any coating surface prep is the most important part. Degrease more than you think is needed.
jerz_subbie  [Team Member]
4/28/2011 10:16:30 AM EST
Originally Posted By artsohc:
One product by two different names.

Kote = Kote


Are you sure about that? Any proof? My googling of "cerakote vs gunkote" says otherwise.

I recently did a bit of research in refinishing and found a pretty consistent consensus that Cerakote was more wear resistant. Just from looking at a bunch of pics and a couple samples of each Cerakote seems to have more of a matte "normal" AR finish versus Gunkote's more painted look.
liberty057  [Team Member]
4/28/2011 10:36:55 AM EST
Originally Posted By artsohc:
One product by two different names.

Kote = Kote

False. I've seen the results first-hand many times. Cerakote is superior, more durable, holds up a lot better, and as stated has a nicer matte finish...

benelliwangM3  [Member]
4/28/2011 3:38:09 PM EST
I've never used CeraKote, so I don't know how strong it is. From their web site advertisement, it seems that it is superior than GunKote in terms of wear resistance and rust prevention.

Having said that, it is expensive at $44.99 for 4oz of paint vs. $10 for gunkote. You also have to mix the cerakote paint where gunkote is premixed. I can just shake it up and use it. If you don't have a proper spray gun, you can get it in aerosol form as well. So I bought gunkote and tried it out. It worked out so well that I ended up buying a bunch of different colors and painted a lot of guns. They are plenty tough for me and I really like how easy they are to apply.

Last, is Cerakote ceramic?
ziarifleman  [Team Member]
4/28/2011 3:45:47 PM EST
I have used and applied both of them.

Given both for free, I would choose GunKote every time. It's easier to use, easier to apply, and easier to clean up.
I can't tell a lick of difference in durability between them, either.

CeraKote has this waxy feel to it before it's cured, and you have to be VERY, VERY, careful when moving it around to put it in the oven.

GunKote flashes almost dry in about 5 minutes, and can be handled lightly without leaving a mark on it.

For grins, I CK'd my M&P slide that I carry everyday, and it started showing metal through the paint at a couple months.

No paint is perfect, and for as expensive as CeraKote is, I'm not real impressed with it.
artsohc  [Team Member]
4/28/2011 8:58:24 PM EST
Originally Posted By liberty057:
Originally Posted By artsohc:
One product by two different names.

Kote = Kote

False. I've seen the results first-hand many times. Cerakote is superior, more durable, holds up a lot better, and as stated has a nicer matte finish...



I stand corrected. Cerakote is a bake-on finish that is more durable, while gun kote is a spray on finish that does not require "proofing" (baking).

Gun Kote = Durakote < Cerakote = Armory Kote

Damn kote products.
bushwack  [Team Member]
4/29/2011 3:18:24 AM EST
Originally Posted By artsohc:
Originally Posted By liberty057:
Originally Posted By artsohc:
One product by two different names.

Kote = Kote

False. I've seen the results first-hand many times. Cerakote is superior, more durable, holds up a lot better, and as stated has a nicer matte finish...



I stand corrected. Cerakote is a bake-on finish that is more durable, while gun kote is a spray on finish that does not require "proofing" (baking).

Gun Kote = Durakote < Cerakote = Armory Kote

Damn kote products.


The standard 2400 GunKote is a bake on coating (One hour @ 325*). They do offer the 1200 series that is an air cure coating (80 minutes @ 70*). They also have a ceramic based coating, but I don't have any information on it.

Locobob  [Team Member]
4/29/2011 6:56:16 AM EST
http://kyguncoat.com/Gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pid=324#top_display_media

http://kyguncoat.com/Gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pid=325#top_display_media


These are the before and after pics of my Ultra Carry. i"ve been carrying it daily for the past 10 years and it sure was looking rough.

Kentucky Gun Coating had a display set up at the KCR shoot earlier this month. After looking at their samples and talking to Rick Kerr, the owner, I was willing to try the Cerakote. I left it with him and received It back in two weeks. All I can say is wow! Every gun should leave the factory with this coating. It's right back on my hip and I plan on treating it just like before. If I think of it, I'll post pics again in a year or so here and we'll all see together how Cerakote holds up
Glock35  [Member]
4/29/2011 7:51:15 AM EST
Ceramic coatings should be much more abrasive resistant than others..assuming ceramic is not just in the name ;)
benelliwangM3  [Member]
4/29/2011 1:18:59 PM EST
Originally Posted By artsohc:
Originally Posted By liberty057:
Originally Posted By artsohc:
One product by two different names.

Kote = Kote

False. I've seen the results first-hand many times. Cerakote is superior, more durable, holds up a lot better, and as stated has a nicer matte finish...



I stand corrected. Cerakote is a bake-on finish that is more durable, while gun kote is a spray on finish that does not require "proofing" (baking).

Gun Kote = Durakote < Cerakote = Armory Kote

Damn kote products.


Actually, that statement is still false.

KG Instustries sells Gun Kote and Stock Kote. Guns Kote is a bake on finish and Stock Kote is air cured.
Kappes  [Member]
5/10/2011 7:42:00 PM EST
ceramic coatings hold in heat more . I have been using gunkote for many years . Tough , thin and hard . C K is very thick and very expensive.
LMTRocks  [Team Member]
5/12/2011 9:22:43 PM EST
Springfield Armory shot my XD's slide in Armory Kote, which I understand to be Gun Kote...
I sandblasted it off to the bare steel when I refinished it in Cerakote, which is self lubricating. I had one AR upper done before I started spraying it myself and you can tell a remarkable difference in the cycling of it. Cooler and smoother due to less friction and extremely durable. Cerakote also looks good for a really long time. It has a ceramic backbone according to NIC. After using it I think anyone would be pleased.
norseman1  [Team Member]
5/15/2011 7:42:49 PM EST
I have had my G17 slide refinished in Cerakote by a professional and it was only $60 for the slide and barrel.

Came out looking absolutely wonderful and has held up to quite a bit of use being drawn from an uncle mikes kydex holster for a class.

I have no 1st hand experience with KG GunKote with which to compare.

tarfu64  [Team Member]
5/18/2011 10:40:27 AM EST
Originally Posted By cmcflex:
Take a look at Norrell's moly resin.



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