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 What is Duracoat?
mrhunter602  [Member]
2/13/2007 6:53:59 PM EST
Like the title says...
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infsqdldr  [Team Member]
2/13/2007 7:07:34 PM EST
paint with epoxy in it to help with the durability and solvent resistence.
uscmba02  [Team Member]
2/14/2007 6:25:48 AM EST
I read somewhere that it is Sherwin Williams Polane T. Obviously, colored and repackaged as Duracoat.

The short answer to your question is "good stuff."
Dano523  [Team Member]
2/14/2007 7:02:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By uscmba02:
I read somewhere that it is Sherwin Williams Polane T. Obviously, colored thinned and repackaged as Duracoat.

The short answer to your question is "good stuff."


Bingo, we have a winner!!!!

A full gallon of Polane with thinner and reactor costs around $80 (smallest size/amount that they sell), but you have to have a commercial contractors account with them to buy it. Also, they can not sell it in some states like CA at all, so don't plan on just walking into a local Sherwin Williams with cash and buying it retail.


uscmba02  [Team Member]
2/14/2007 8:15:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dano523:

Originally Posted By uscmba02:
I read somewhere that it is Sherwin Williams Polane T. Obviously, colored thinned and repackaged as Duracoat.

The short answer to your question is "good stuff."


Bingo, we have a winner!!!!

A full gallon of Polane with thinner and reactor costs around $80 (smallest size/amount that they sell), but you have to have a commercial contractors account with them to buy it. Also, they can not sell it in some states like CA at all, so don't plan on just walking into a local Sherwin Williams with cash and buying it retail.





I wonder if LCW blends the colors themselves...?
Dano523  [Team Member]
2/14/2007 8:52:03 AM EST
You can buy Prolane tinted to any color you can dream up, and it comes in larger containers than gallon sizes. Best guess is that LWC is just ordering it up in 55-gallon pre-tinted drums to there specs, then thinning it down to the point that it's sprayable through an airbrush.

When we buy Polane, it comes factory thick since we have two part mixing sprayer, and don't need to thin it down to flow out of them.

Huge Warning: Do not a wild idea and try to use a mixing gun at home. The Polane reactor atomized air born straight will kill you quick (in hours). When shot this way, full protective suits with clean air systems supplies are a must. The main part of Prolane is just a polyurethane coating, so in it single form, not that evil. It’s the reactor catalyst that is the nasty part of the mix that will shut down your lungs down if absorbed into your system.
uscmba02  [Team Member]
2/15/2007 6:26:20 AM EST
I'm with you on that. Duracoat is too convienent to worry about buying in bulk. That would be one hell of an arsenal if you needed 55 gallons of paint...

Your experience with it points out something that is often overlooked. People should know that they should be wearing an organic vapor respirator when they paint with this stuff...

I got mine from the Home Depot for about $30.
pmc1  [Member]
2/15/2007 7:06:10 AM EST
I assumed Duracoat contain Isocyanates. I figure I'll do it just like I did my Jeep. Respirator, & fan drawing fumes to the outside. Any thoughts on other proper pre-cautions.

Pmc
uscmba02  [Team Member]
2/15/2007 8:44:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By pmc1:
I assumed Duracoat contain Isocyanates. I figure I'll do it just like I did my Jeep. Respirator, & fan drawing fumes to the outside. Any thoughts on other proper pre-cautions.

Pmc


I wear safety glasses and gloves as well.
pmc1  [Member]
2/15/2007 11:58:34 AM EST
Yes, I'll be wearing long sleeves, googles and gloves. Sorry I didn't metion that

Pmc
KogaShuko  [Member]
2/21/2007 10:55:10 PM EST
Looking at their sight Polane 700T looks like the stuff to get.
KogaShuko  [Member]
3/1/2007 1:01:27 AM EST
IS there a place online you can order prolane t?

Also any idea what duracoat clear is?
Dano523  [Team Member]
3/1/2007 9:16:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By KogaShuko:
IS there a place online you can order prolane t?

Also any idea what duracoat clear is?


NO,

And just clear untinted Duracoat.
KogaShuko  [Member]
3/1/2007 4:21:40 PM EST
So now the trick is where can I get some clear prolane T at since duracoat is 4X in clear.
Dano523  [Team Member]
3/1/2007 8:31:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By KogaShuko:
So now the trick is where can I get some clear prolane T at since duracoat is 4X in clear.


A Commercial account (or contractor documentation) with Sherwin Williams, and if needed, pick it up in a different state (at the store) if they are not allowed to sell it in the one you live (don’t know about your state, but do know that they can not sell it in CA and a few others).
KogaShuko  [Member]
3/1/2007 8:47:35 PM EST
Do the shiwin williams stores sell it to people with contacting acounts? If so I can just get one with my corp that I setup for NFA. Drive down to the store and pickup a gallon of clear. Will be great because I can krylon my stuff like I have in the past but coat it with the clear. That way if the krylon looks bad it simply scrubs off before the clear is applied.
Dano523  [Team Member]
3/1/2007 9:31:37 PM EST
Yes, but call in first to see if they have it in stock. Chances are it will take them a few days to get it. Also, make sure that you order the thinner and reactor for it at the same time (will run around $80 for a gallon of coating, standard thinner amount, and reactor).

Also, if you are planning on spraying it through an airbrush, get extra thinner since the the standard gallon amount for thinner is to run the coating through a two part sprayer on the thicker side.
KogaShuko  [Member]
3/1/2007 10:55:45 PM EST
Will try that since there is a store down the street from my house. Will they have some sort of chart for how much thinner and reactor is needed? I have a HVLP sprayer I am going to use but it still needs it thin I think.

Also, I was reading on their sight something called Polane 700T which doesnt need mixing and only thinning, have you ever tried that?
Dano523  [Team Member]
3/2/2007 9:02:26 AM EST
www2.sherwin-williams.com/Apps/Product_Catalog/index_p.htm

Have them get you a copy of the mixing/Haz data for it when you order it.

I don't have the specs in front of me, but it will give you the reactor mixing rato, and even the spec on just how far you can thin it down.

I have never used the 700, so you on your own on that one.
infsqdldr  [Team Member]
3/2/2007 6:08:12 PM EST

Originally Posted By KogaShuko:
Do the shiwin williams stores sell it to people with contacting acounts? If so I can just get one with my corp that I setup for NFA. Drive down to the store and pickup a gallon of clear. Will be great because I can krylon my stuff like I have in the past but coat it with the clear. That way if the krylon looks bad it simply scrubs off before the clear is applied.


just get the larger, i think its 8oz, bottle of a standard color like grey or fde or tan. use the duracoat as a base coat, let it fully cure, then apply the rest of the camo pattern with krylon. then you can change the colors for diff seasons, and the base coat will still remain and protect. i dont think youll come out ahead getting duracoat in large quantities, unless your coating many at once. the hardener would be useless in bulk unless used at once.
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