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die-tryin  [Team Member]
3/26/2012 8:46:56 AM
I forget the publication but does someone have the .pdf form that I can print out and ship off to ATF, Planning on a vacation early summer and wanna take my toys.


**EDIT**

Just got my form back approved.

I dated / sent it off 3-16-2012 and its dated 4-5-2012 as approval date. , took em 7 days to get it back to me once approved.
jtkline  [Member]
3/26/2012 9:36:27 AM
The ATF.gov has the 5320.20 on PDF
die-tryin  [Team Member]
3/26/2012 9:41:43 AM
Originally Posted By jtkline:
The ATF.gov has the 5320.20 on PDF


Thanks, I found it thru linking from the tacked thread. I wasnt sure on the publication but thats it.

mo4040  [Team Member]
3/27/2012 11:16:40 PM
Send it off EARLY. I have sent off three forms and it has been almost a month and no returned (approved) forms yet.

It's almost like waiting on a Form/4.

Sigh


stinkyfeet  [Team Member]
3/28/2012 7:14:17 PM
I'm on week 8. WTF
die-tryin  [Team Member]
3/28/2012 7:23:16 PM
Uhm, what happens if they dont get it back in time of my vacation? last time I did this, it only took them a week or so. and that was 2 years ago.
SBR7_11  [Team Member]
3/28/2012 7:48:39 PM
Originally Posted By die-tryin:
Uhm, what happens if they dont get it back in time of my vacation? last time I did this, it only took them a week or so. and that was 2 years ago.


Uhhh,, I had my 2012 papers in hand approved back in Sept 2011... Had my 2011 papers done in hand Sept 2010,, not went anywhere during 2011, but I had papers approved so I could go on a moment' notice for 5 different states.

Can I ask why you not have papers done and approved for the year ?

die-tryin  [Team Member]
3/28/2012 9:07:45 PM
Originally Posted By SBR7_11:
Originally Posted By die-tryin:
Uhm, what happens if they dont get it back in time of my vacation? last time I did this, it only took them a week or so. and that was 2 years ago.


Uhhh,, I had my 2012 papers in hand approved back in Sept 2011... Had my 2011 papers done in hand Sept 2010,, not went anywhere during 2011, but I had papers approved so I could go on a moment' notice for 5 different states.

Can I ask why you not have papers done and approved for the year ?



This was a last minute "vacation" that just happened, I didnt see it coming.
thormx538  [Member]
3/29/2012 10:44:50 AM
Originally Posted By SBR7_11:
Originally Posted By die-tryin:
Uhm, what happens if they dont get it back in time of my vacation? last time I did this, it only took them a week or so. and that was 2 years ago.


Uhhh,, I had my 2012 papers in hand approved back in Sept 2011... Had my 2011 papers done in hand Sept 2010,, not went anywhere during 2011, but I had papers approved so I could go on a moment' notice for 5 different states.

Can I ask why you not have papers done and approved for the year ?




So in box 3, you just say Jan 1, 2012 to Dec 31, 2012 for example?

I always figured they would balk at that since in reality is going to be at home for 99% of the year, but away for 1%. To me, answering question 3 that way would imply it is going to be away for the entire time and never at home. Plus, say I were to fill two 5320.20's out, one for State A and one for State B. Wouldn't that imply it is going to be in two states at once, for the whole year?

Additionally, what if you have two ranges in State A that you want to go to. Just put one address down?


I know I'm over thinking this because countless people have done it this way, but does this seem illogical to anyone else that the ATF approves forms filled out like this? Has anyone had an mall-ninja LEO question a 5320.20 filled out this way?
andrasik  [Team Member]
3/29/2012 12:27:06 PM
Originally Posted By thormx538:
Originally Posted By SBR7_11:
Originally Posted By die-tryin:
Uhm, what happens if they dont get it back in time of my vacation? last time I did this, it only took them a week or so. and that was 2 years ago.


Uhhh,, I had my 2012 papers in hand approved back in Sept 2011... Had my 2011 papers done in hand Sept 2010,, not went anywhere during 2011, but I had papers approved so I could go on a moment' notice for 5 different states.

Can I ask why you not have papers done and approved for the year ?




So in box 3, you just say Jan 1, 2012 to Dec 31, 2012 for example?

I always figured they would balk at that since in reality is going to be at home for 99% of the year, but away for 1%. To me, answering question 3 that way would imply it is going to be away for the entire time and never at home. Plus, say I were to fill two 5320.20's out, one for State A and one for State B. Wouldn't that imply it is going to be in two states at once, for the whole year?

Additionally, what if you have two ranges in State A that you want to go to. Just put one address down?


I know I'm over thinking this because countless people have done it this way, but does this seem illogical to anyone else that the ATF approves forms filled out like this? Has anyone had an mall-ninja LEO question a 5320.20 filled out this way?


You're absolutely overthinking this.
thormx538  [Member]
3/29/2012 12:51:01 PM
Originally Posted By andrasik:
Originally Posted By thormx538:
Originally Posted By SBR7_11:
Originally Posted By die-tryin:
Uhm, what happens if they dont get it back in time of my vacation? last time I did this, it only took them a week or so. and that was 2 years ago.


Uhhh,, I had my 2012 papers in hand approved back in Sept 2011... Had my 2011 papers done in hand Sept 2010,, not went anywhere during 2011, but I had papers approved so I could go on a moment' notice for 5 different states.

Can I ask why you not have papers done and approved for the year ?




So in box 3, you just say Jan 1, 2012 to Dec 31, 2012 for example?

I always figured they would balk at that since in reality is going to be at home for 99% of the year, but away for 1%. To me, answering question 3 that way would imply it is going to be away for the entire time and never at home. Plus, say I were to fill two 5320.20's out, one for State A and one for State B. Wouldn't that imply it is going to be in two states at once, for the whole year?

Additionally, what if you have two ranges in State A that you want to go to. Just put one address down?


I know I'm over thinking this because countless people have done it this way, but does this seem illogical to anyone else that the ATF approves forms filled out like this? Has anyone had an mall-ninja LEO question a 5320.20 filled out this way?


You're absolutely overthinking this.


Hahaha, an engineering brain doesn't play well with the ATF's logic

Porcine83  [Member]
3/29/2012 4:59:47 PM
Originally Posted By stinkyfeet:
I'm on week 8. WTF


7weeks and counting here...........
SBR7_11  [Team Member]
3/29/2012 10:32:06 PM
Originally Posted By thormx538:


So in box 3, you just say Jan 1, 2012 to Dec 31, 2012 for example?
Yes

I always figured they would balk at that since in reality is going to be at home for 99% of the year, but away for 1%. To me, answering question 3 that way would imply it is going to be away for the entire time and never at home.
Look at the paper.. are the firearms returning to original location... YES.. who to know they even left.. Mine not been anywhere for the 2011 yr, but I am papered to go when ever I want during the year.. I am papered for 2012.. I have not been anywhere yet. You just simply state "Travel back and forth to (enter state of choice here) during 2012 year..




Plus, say I were to fill two 5320.20's out, one for State A and one for State B. Wouldn't that imply it is going to be in two states at once, for the whole year?
No,, you going overboard.. have one for each state you think you might want to visit during year, then go there if the need comes up.. here is the 2011 pile at top, 2010 at bottom





Additionally, what if you have two ranges in State A that you want to go to. Just put one address down?
Yep, paper is simply to get you into state.. I shoot at in-laws, local range, cousins, where ever we decide to go... nobody ever bother in all my years

Has anyone had an mall-ninja LEO question a 5320.20 filled out this way?
Nope


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Originally Posted By Porcine83:
Originally Posted By stinkyfeet:
I'm on week 8. WTF


7weeks and counting here...........


Your envelope likely had a plain appearance with no direction, so it got bagged with all the other stuff... got to give it direction so it get pulled and handled in timely fashion 末


DanR  [Team Member]
3/29/2012 11:05:11 PM
Thanks - best thread I've read in a while - I'll need to know this in a few months
mo4040  [Team Member]
3/30/2012 3:38:43 AM
I sent off three and got just one back yesterday, WTF???
thormx538  [Member]
3/30/2012 10:05:01 PM
Thanks for the info SBR7!
die-tryin  [Team Member]
4/12/2012 3:12:13 PM
Just got my form back approved.

I dated / sent it off 3-16-2012 and its dated 4-5-2012 as approval date. , took em 7 days to get it back to me once approved.