What is the fastest way to unload an NFA item legally?
I have about a 6 week maximum window until I move to a non-NFA state. If I just walk into a local dealer and take a massive loss on any items just to unload them, can they take immediate possession while the Form 4 clears?
Other than that I guess the only option is to surrender them to the ATF or something? IMO I would rather return them to the manufacturer free of charge so the dipshits didn't get to destroy anything.
What items are you talking about?
Send them to my dealer for proper disposal by me.
Seriously though.
Put them in locked storage in an NFA friendly state. Do you plan on living in a non-NFA state forever?
Originally Posted By Backnblack:
What items are you talking about?
This is important.
It's also important to know whether or not you'll be returning to an NFA friendly state in the future.
Originally Posted By Falar:
I have about a 6 week maximum window until I move to a non-NFA state. If I just walk into a local dealer and take a massive loss on any items just to unload them, can they take immediate possession while the Form 4 clears?
Other than that I guess the only option is to surrender them to the ATF or something? IMO I would rather return them to the manufacturer free of charge so the dipshits didn't get to destroy anything.
Dealer cannot take possession until the F4 clears.
HOWEVER, you could leave it with a dealer or other buyer in a locked container to which only you have the key, while you wait for the paperwork to clear. Then mail the key to the purchaser when the Forms come back approved.
You could also get a storage unit of some kind, or even a safety deposit box, and leave your stuff there in case you ever move to a "free state" again, to be able to retrieve your NFA items.
If it's an SBR or SBS, you could also just sell off or abandon your short barrels.
Originally Posted By Falar:
I have about a 6 week maximum window until I move to a non-NFA state. If I just walk into a local dealer and take a massive loss on any items just to unload them, can they take immediate possession while the Form 4 clears?
Other than that I guess the only option is to surrender them to the ATF or something? IMO I would rather return them to the manufacturer free of charge so the dipshits didn't get to destroy anything.
Variety of ways to legally solve this problem. In fact, it can be arranged so you will get them back if you return to a free state. What items are we talking about?
Originally Posted By Circuits:
If it's an SBR or SBS, you could also just sell off or abandon your short barrels.
Or for $50, buy virgin lowers and attach them to that.
MGs strip them down and put in storage.
Or send them to FFL for gunsmithing, my back log is three years so they will be in safe for some time.
build the SBR uppers into pistols
sell the lowers as title 1 firearms
or sell the lowers as title 1 firearms
sell the SBR uppers on the interwebs
SOrry, should have been specific, suppressors. Whether or not I am ever able to come back is uncertain. My company is expanding and I chose to take a big step up in my career to run our new shop in Bakersfield, California. It is possible that someday the guys that are above me here in the Houston store (would NOT work in Midland or Corpus, for professional reasons) could die/retire/transfer, but who knows.
Originally Posted By Falar:
SOrry, should have been specific, suppressors. Whether or not I am ever able to come back is uncertain. My company is expanding and I chose to take a big step up in my career to run our new shop in Bakersfield, California. It is possible that someday the guys that are above me here in the Houston store (would NOT work in Midland or Corpus, for professional reasons) could die/retire/transfer, but who knows.
Suppressors are probably the worst case scenario sicne there isn't much of a market for them used. What kind of suppressors? If you are talking about something like an inexpensive 22 can then you are looking at $400 worth of tax just to get it to someone else through a dealer. Not really ideal.
You could get a deposit box at the bank to put them in, look for a buyer in your state, and transfer them over when the paperwork clears. That way you would at least get something for your troubles.
If they are owned by a corp or trust then you could ammend the trust to allow possession by a friend or family member that is remaining outside of CA
Don't surrender them to the ATF. Worst case scenario see if someone from your current state will cover a deposit box and tax for them. You will likely be able to get a few bucks out of it as well. ETA: I just saw that you are in TX. If that's the case then I'm sure you will be able to move them quickly if you price them right so you just have to find a way to handle the storage.
Disclaimer: I'm of the "never sell a gun club"
As others have mentioned, store them legally in a NFA friendly location.
You never know what hurdles you might have to go through years from now if you had to buy new - or even if you still could.
Heck, I'd even store a few host guns with them.

I would lock them in a box and leave them at a trusted friends home.
I certainly wouldn't just dump them. Safety deposit box in tx would be easiest. Lock box with a friend would be almost as easy, and cheaper. I know a fellow who currently lives in California who has several transferable machineguns, and some supressors. He bought a small liberty safe, and parked it at a friends house. As long as the friend does not have access to the container, I don't see how it wouldn't be legal.
I'd find a mini-storage unit just across the border in NV or AZ and store them there in a locked box or gun safe. That way you could take a trip to the dessert for a fun day of shooting and still use them from time to time. Of course it would cost for the rental of the space, but they would still be accessible to you. I wouldn't sell them. I also wouldn't keep them in a Bank. You never know when the country will collapse financially and the banks will be one of the first institutions to close. Anything you have in a safety deposit box will magically become inaccessible when they close their doors.
Don't go the non-NFA state?
Did you acquire them via a trust? Do you have a good friend/family member you could make a trustee?
Eject the magazine.

Keep them locked up in TX. Dont sell them after all that time and money.....and you never know what will happen in the future.
Yup, safety deposit box them bitches
Store them.
Bakersfield sucks. Hopefully you can parlay your new upgrade into a better position back where you came from after you prove yourself.
Originally Posted By jakoury256:
Yup, safety deposit box them bitches
+1
I will echo the safety deposit box recommendation, with some caveats. If you are pretty certain you're not coming back for a long time, the cost of the safety deposit box could end up being higher than the cost of replacement cans. The same thing goes if the cans are cheap items, such as a low-tech, .22 can built by some local SOT - it might not even be worth paying for several years worth of storage.
Instead of trashing them, or turning them over to BATFE for destruction, I'd fine someone to take them off of your hands. Surely there are some folks on here fromt he Houston area who could help you out. SC-Texas is a well-known and respected NFA attorney in Houston. I bet he'd be able to offer some advice. If the only other option is destruction by BATFE, youu could probably find someone willing to cover the costs of stamps and storage to buy the cans off of you. Just rent a safe deposit box, stuff them into it, have the buyer(s) fill out the Form 4's, send them to BATFE, and wait. Once the forms are approved, you send them the key to the box with their can(s) in it and be done with it. The cost to the buyer of 6 months of safe deposit boxes has to be less than the cost of one or two new cans.
IM'd
Originally Posted By atomos:
IM'd
Get a safe deposit box in Vegas and go play with them from time to time
If they're held by a trust, one thing that comes to mind is:
1. Add buyer to trust as a trustee.
2. Sell NFA items to buyer.
3. Remove self from trust as trustee
Anyone see any issues with this method?
Originally Posted By FredMan:
If they're held by a trust, one thing that comes to mind is:
1. Add buyer to trust as a trustee.
2. Sell NFA items to buyer.
3. Remove self from trust as trustee
Anyone see any issues with this method?
I think revocable trusts cease to exist if you remove yourself from them. Don't quote me on that. Also, it would be an end-run around the whole NFA approval process if you could do it.
OP, if the items aren't held in an NFA trust already, form one, set some friends and family members as trustees, and pay $200/item to transfer the toys into the trust. Then your friends can posses and enjoy them. I used Chris Bass in Dallas and it took less than a week to get the trust formed.
Also, if one is a 9mm suppressor, send me an IM.

I'm in south Houston.