AR15.Com Archives
 Thinkin Abouth SBSin My Benelli...
BlindFaith429  [Member]
2/22/2011 11:58:28 AM
I know all the step about the Form 1 and all that to make my Benelli a legal SBS.

My question is...

The reciever is aluminum, and black anodized. I would assume it is hard-coated as well. How do I get the infro engraved on the reciever? And what do I do to the bare aluminum once it is engraved?

Thanks
Paid Advertisement
--
bwideman  [Team Member]
2/22/2011 3:17:50 PM
Just send it off to Ident Marking or Orion and let them take care of it. They will laser engrave and re blacken the engraving. It is the same as with any anodized AR lower.
BlindFaith429  [Member]
2/22/2011 4:32:34 PM
I take it they will lazer it deep enough to meet requirements? Isn't there a required depth of text? Or is that for serial numbers only?

And that will be a pretty big box, as I would have to leave the recoil tube & mag tube in place. I would probably have to check to see if the size is small enough to fit their lazer
CyberIntel  [Member]
2/22/2011 4:48:45 PM
Originally Posted By BlindFaith429:
I take it they will lazer it deep enough to meet requirements? Isn't there a required depth of text? Or is that for serial numbers only?

And that will be a pretty big box, as I would have to leave the recoil tube & mag tube in place. I would probably have to check to see if the size is small enough to fit their lazer


Just take it on blind faith. Just kidding . . your best bet it to actually read the law and make sure they comply with the depth and size requirements and also actually talk to Orion. In other words don;t trust some guy on the internet. But basically, yes, they meet the requirements for marking.
BlindFaith429  [Member]
2/22/2011 5:32:26 PM
Originally Posted By CyberIntel:
Originally Posted By BlindFaith429:
I take it they will lazer it deep enough to meet requirements? Isn't there a required depth of text? Or is that for serial numbers only?

And that will be a pretty big box, as I would have to leave the recoil tube & mag tube in place. I would probably have to check to see if the size is small enough to fit their lazer


Just take it on blind faith. Just kidding . . your best bet it to actually read the law and make sure they comply with the depth and size requirements and also actually talk to Orion. In other words don;t trust some guy on the internet. But basically, yes, they meet the requirements for marking.


I just read up on it a little. The name & address have to be .003 min deep, just like the serial number. Serial numbers have to be at least 1/16" tall letters, but the name and address have no requirements for text size, although I would personally make them the same as the serial number or slightly larger. The name & address do have to be in plain sight as well.

Please correct me if I am wrong.
ryknoll3  [Team Member]
2/22/2011 6:05:07 PM
Originally Posted By BlindFaith429:
Originally Posted By CyberIntel:
Originally Posted By BlindFaith429:
I take it they will lazer it deep enough to meet requirements? Isn't there a required depth of text? Or is that for serial numbers only?

And that will be a pretty big box, as I would have to leave the recoil tube & mag tube in place. I would probably have to check to see if the size is small enough to fit their lazer


Just take it on blind faith. Just kidding . . your best bet it to actually read the law and make sure they comply with the depth and size requirements and also actually talk to Orion. In other words don;t trust some guy on the internet. But basically, yes, they meet the requirements for marking.


I just read up on it a little. The name & address have to be .003 min deep, just like the serial number. Serial numbers have to be at least 1/16" tall letters, but the name and address have no requirements for text size, although I would personally make them the same as the serial number or slightly larger. The name & address do have to be in plain sight as well.

Please correct me if I am wrong.


This is correct. Orion and Ident Markings both engrave deep enough for ATF standards. .003 is like a sheet of paper thick. I had my AR SBR engraved by Orion and they did a great job. I don't think it was laser engraved though, but I could be wrong. Email both of them with the model and what you want engraved and where you'd like it engraved and they can give you a quote with return shipping. IIRC, the engraving and reblacking for my AR lower was in the $50-ish range with return shipping.
BlindFaith429  [Member]
2/22/2011 6:56:00 PM
I just took my shoty apart and took a few measurements. I want to leave the Mag Tube on, as well as the Recoil Spring Tube. They make the whole thing about 32" long.

ETA: Pic of Shotgun in question added. 14" Barrel would put the end of the barrel flush with the mag tube nut. Currently it is 21". I also was thinking about cutting the stock a little, as it currently sports a 14 1/4" L.O.P. There are also a few spots where the finish is starting to wear on the stock. The fore-end is fine though.

For those of you wondering, it is a circa '96 HK Import Montefeltro. I am kinda on the fence about chopping up this gun, but part of me wants to do it as it will be so unique and different. That and I love the gun, so if I was to get a different one to cut down, it would probably be a newer model Monte. I am on the fence about it due to the fact that it is an HK Import version.



ETA 2: I used my not-so-expert skills with paint to see what the shotgun would look like with a 14" Barrel and a slightly shorter stock.

Quake_Guy  [Member]
2/23/2011 12:27:05 AM
If you are going to SBS your own Benelli and not use a factory barrel, there are really no other options better than this:
http://guntech.com/shotgun/m1s90.jpg

Believe its 10.5", M1S90.
azeyecap  [Team Member]
2/23/2011 12:48:17 AM
Originally Posted By Quake_Guy:
If you are going to SBS your own Benelli and not use a factory barrel, there are really no other options better than this:
http://guntech.com/shotgun/m1s90.jpg

Believe its 10.5", M1S90.


??? Can you explain the factory barrel part. Are you saying that there is an alternative to the super expensive Benelli barrels? I would love to chop chop my M2 but I would like to keep my longer barrel as well. I just don't want to do it because Benelli barrels seem to be $500+.
BlindFaith429  [Member]
2/23/2011 2:52:40 AM
Quake Guy, in case you didn't notice the huge pics of my gun, I am not working with an M1. I wouldn't mind an M1, as they are well known runners, but I am thinking about doingthe Monte shown above to be a little different. I also like the fact that the factory tube and the front handgaurd will be the same length as the barrel, which I think looks pretty cool.

If you were telling me that I should sell my current Monte and buy an M1 to cut down, as i was second guessing cutting this one, you could have stated that.

And azeyecap, what he meant by a "factory barrel" is that Benelli makes factory "entry" models that have 14" barrels. Therefore, you can find a factory 14" barrel and not have to cut up an 18" barrel to get what you want. This is nice because in the case of the ghost ring sights, the front sight post would have to be relocated, which can be a pain in the butt to do.
damcv62  [Life Member]
2/23/2011 11:20:31 AM
I think it looks cool with the barrel the same as the mag tube. I'm sure no one has done it before, so why not be the first?
BlindFaith429  [Member]
2/23/2011 11:54:06 AM
Originally Posted By damcv62:
I think it looks cool with the barrel the same as the mag tube. I'm sure no one has done it before, so why not be the first?


It's settled, time to tear down and get it ready to send out for lazering, and time to get the forms all set to go. I also ordered on of THESE for it too. I have been drooling over them since they came out and finally ordered one
damcv62  [Life Member]
2/23/2011 3:25:23 PM
You'll have to get us pics of the finished unit. I think it'll look pretty sexy.
Paid Advertisement
--