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getting started muzzle loading, need help
5/25/2010 11:56:08 PM
I just got a Pedersoli “Kentucky” percussion pistol from a friend in a trade, just the pistol; he had not shot it in several years and wanted to get rid of it. He never used actual black powder just the newer non corrosive substitutes. In any case I know the pistol was fairly well taken care of but as this is the first muzzle loader I have owned I need some gear.
From what I understand this is what I need, if you have suggestions as to brand or other gear, please let me know.
Powder: 3F (What Brand?)
Percussion caps (he said he thought it was #11 but was not sure)
Ball and Patch (I want a mold eventually, but want plain shot before buying the mold)
Capper
Powder measure
Bullet seater for the end of the ramrod
From what I understand this is what I need, if you have suggestions as to brand or other gear, please let me know.
Powder: 3F (What Brand?)
Percussion caps (he said he thought it was #11 but was not sure)
Ball and Patch (I want a mold eventually, but want plain shot before buying the mold)
Capper
Powder measure
Bullet seater for the end of the ramrod
5/26/2010 2:01:33 AM
Originally Posted By jonnybravo:
I just got a Pedersoli “Kentucky” percussion pistol from a friend in a trade, just the pistol; he had not shot it in several years and wanted to get rid of it. He never used actual black powder just the newer non corrosive substitutes. In any case I know the pistol was fairly well taken care of but as this is the first muzzle loader I have owned I need some gear.
From what I understand this is what I need, if you have suggestions as to brand or other gear, please let me know.
Powder: 3F (What Brand?)
I only use Goex or Swiss Black Powder
Percussion caps (he said he thought it was #11 but was not sure)
I use the Remingtons, the seem slightly cleaner than the CCI. Either will do
Ball and Patch (I want a mold eventually, but want plain shot before buying the mold)
The couple Pedersolis I played with seemed to have a tighter bore, If it is a 45, I would probably start out with a .440 and a .018 pillow ticking , may have to go .010 on the patch
I use Hornady roundballs
Capper
This is the easiest, but you fill it more often
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/partDetail.aspx?catId=1&subId=1&styleId=1&partNum=CAPPER-P
I use one of these too, but caps get sideways sometimes,
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/partDetail.aspx?catId=1&subId=1&styleId=1&partNum=CAPPER-REV-B
Powder measure
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/partDetail.aspx?catId=1&subId=13&styleId=49&partNum=MAS-120
Bullet seater for the end of the ramrod See if your threaded for 10-32 or 8-32 before buying
I have this on my loading rod. (Search part number 32045 ) http://muzzleloaderbuilderssupply.com
Most of us use these, fine if your patches arent to big to get drug back up
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/(S(teh5efladj45gypip4x3bqu2))/Categories/TableList.aspx?catID=6&subID=49&styleID=152
I just got a Pedersoli “Kentucky” percussion pistol from a friend in a trade, just the pistol; he had not shot it in several years and wanted to get rid of it. He never used actual black powder just the newer non corrosive substitutes. In any case I know the pistol was fairly well taken care of but as this is the first muzzle loader I have owned I need some gear.
From what I understand this is what I need, if you have suggestions as to brand or other gear, please let me know.
Powder: 3F (What Brand?)
I only use Goex or Swiss Black Powder
Percussion caps (he said he thought it was #11 but was not sure)
I use the Remingtons, the seem slightly cleaner than the CCI. Either will do
Ball and Patch (I want a mold eventually, but want plain shot before buying the mold)
The couple Pedersolis I played with seemed to have a tighter bore, If it is a 45, I would probably start out with a .440 and a .018 pillow ticking , may have to go .010 on the patch
I use Hornady roundballs
Capper
This is the easiest, but you fill it more often
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/partDetail.aspx?catId=1&subId=1&styleId=1&partNum=CAPPER-P
I use one of these too, but caps get sideways sometimes,
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/partDetail.aspx?catId=1&subId=1&styleId=1&partNum=CAPPER-REV-B
Powder measure
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/partDetail.aspx?catId=1&subId=13&styleId=49&partNum=MAS-120
Bullet seater for the end of the ramrod See if your threaded for 10-32 or 8-32 before buying
I have this on my loading rod. (Search part number 32045 ) http://muzzleloaderbuilderssupply.com
Most of us use these, fine if your patches arent to big to get drug back up
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/(S(teh5efladj45gypip4x3bqu2))/Categories/TableList.aspx?catID=6&subID=49&styleID=152
If you don't have a short starter, you should have one of those as well
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/(S(teh5efladj45gypip4x3bqu2))/Categories/partDetail.aspx?catId=2&subId=23&styleId=55&partNum=PL-45
5/26/2010 11:38:32 AM
thanks, Got a few odds and ends today, had to go with Hodgdons Tripel se7ven for powder. its a .54cal and Pedersoli reccomended a .535 ball with a .015 patch.... im thinking a .530 ball with a thicker patch might be better..... i will just thave to try it and find out waht works best i guess.
5/26/2010 1:50:22 PM
You're just going to have to experiment to see what ball size/patch thickness works best for you.
Sounds like you're on your way to being a soot lord.
Have fun and post After Action Report or you're a puss.
Sounds like you're on your way to being a soot lord.
Have fun and post After Action Report or you're a puss.
5/26/2010 1:57:06 PM
Be cautious with Triple 7 and older imported muzzleloaders. As good as Pedersoli is they still used pretty mild steel in the front stuffers. Cut back to 80% charge. You may also find it hard to light off in a side hammer with a cap. The stuff is really made for in-line guns, but many say it works fine.
Good luck, lots of fun to be had.
<< please wear eye protection 
Good luck, lots of fun to be had.
<< please wear eye protection 5/26/2010 3:46:04 PM
Clean the barrel well after every shooting session. Rust will build quickly if left unattended.
5/27/2010 11:41:02 PM
Originally Posted By sbrider:
Clean the barrel well after every shooting session. Rust will build quickly if left unattended.
Clean the barrel well after every shooting session. Rust will build quickly if left unattended.
Yep. No such thing as a non-corrosive substitute. At least not one that will work with anything short of an inline gun with 209 primers.
