Up in arms over gun: Replica rifle has Brooklyn man at odds with cops
I don't understand.
The loophole allows license-free ownership of "antique firearms" - defined as rifles that require the bullet and gunpowder to be loaded separately.
Loophole or not... it's there and apparently it's in black-n-white.
I'd sue the "higher-ups" for harassment!
It's legal and it is NYC that is breaking it's own laws.
I hope the guy fights the charges in court, he will walk. He can follow that up with lawsuits against the city and get punitive damages.
I am thinking that he will plea bargain.
For Liberals, laws only mean what they want them to mean…
and that can change from day to day for them…
I swear, every day makes me feel more and more like... never mind. If I finish that sentence, I'll get a knock on my door.
I be having a talk with the person at the copy shop.
Originally Posted By SRTMO:
I be having a talk with the person at the copy shop.
I think talking to that person would be a complete waste of time and a HUGE opportunity to get into some REAL trouble.
Some people can deal with idiots like that and remain calm. I'm trying to become one of those people, but I'm not there yet.
If Heller vs. DC was so important, why doesn't it apply to NYC?
Not only should be be able to keep a flintlock, he should be able to keep a shotgun, a Glock and an AR15.
Actually if I were him, I'd move out of that cesspool, but, I have to give him all the respect for fighting this.
I don't have the patience for it.
It depends on what the Long Arm NYC regs.currently state. In the 1970's Black powder pistols and revolvers previously were banned with out a Pistol permit. Then they were allowed as long as powder and ball were not in your possession. Then now I hear that they are regulated again. Rifles and shotguns require a NYC regisrtation permit.His gun is classified as a non firearm. But NYC makes their own rules. JET 71.
Just came on one of the Blackpowder forums I frequent:
Hi to all,
Mike Littlejohn here and some of you may have been following my long nightmare with the New York City Police Department and their Firearms Registration unit.
Two days before the Fourth of July weekend detectives of the Firearms Investigative Unit began to investigate me over the receipt for the purchase of a custom replica .40 flintlock longrifle. This receipt was eagerly turned in by a Staples employee who found it in one of their copy machines. (For details on the story search "Michael Littlejohn" and "Daily News".)
Detectives were dispatched to my home. I received anonymous phone calls in the late evening. The gunsmith who created the gun in Tennesse was interviewed by the lead detective. I was forced to seek legal representation to protect my civil rights. After cooperating fully with their investigation I was told by the lead detective of the case that "higher ups" were interested in pursuing the case "probably based on an interpretaton of the NYC Administrative code––".
This week after nearly 2 and half months, I received official notification by the NYPD FIU that they would no longer bother me about the gun and that "there never was an investigation to begin with." This week Captain of the unit called me and asked me if I was "happy" about the outcome. I replied, "I am not jumping for joy."
It seems that the NYPD and Mayor Bloomberg are eager to re-write history with the Mayor's upcoming election. He was thoroughly embarassed by this clear harassment of a law-abiding citizen and this story via the internet flashed like a wildfire from one end of the country to the other. Mayor Bloomberg has spent uncounted thousands of NYC tax in attempts to sue gun dealerships in other states––wasted NYC tax dollars in failed attempts to somehow make the rest of the Nation responsible for NYC's violent crime problem.
As for the NYC administrative code, it is short and sweet on the topic of muzzle loading long guns. My long gun, and all other muzzle-loading long guns which "do not fire fixed ammunition" are exempt exempt exempt from liscencing requirements in NYC.
I post this information to educate my fellow New York City residents –– if they wish to own a muzzle-loading long gun (pistols of any kind need a permit in NYC) I urge you to fearlessly exercise your 2nd Ammendment right to posession of a firearm.
I must thank my Lawer, Jerold Levine, who did a stunning job advocating for me. My hat is off to this man, who is real defender of The American Consitution. He has my eternal graditude.
I also would like to thank Joseph Goldstein who wrote the article for the New York Daily News. He is a freelance writer here in NYC with a flair for covering gun-related topics.
Conclusion: This was a stressful episode of my life, and I am glad that I "stuck to my guns" and resisted the invitation from the NYPD to resolve this situation by "turning in my gun for safekeeping" or by "applying for a firearms permit." I admit I had some moments of weakness but I am very appreciative of the literally hundreds of well-wishers who contacted me accross the country to voice their support.
All I can say is that Americans of today must not slumber. We must be altert to infringements and oppressions of our civil rights in this century and cherish the legacy of an American Constitution ––-our heritage––- left to us by those great 18th. century minds. The lesson I think is––the struggle never ends, and freedom is only found in the hands of the People––it is not given to us by any "politician" and is often threatened by "the politician".
Let's excercise, cherish and protect our Constituional Rights every day.
Brooklyn, New York
if its a replica then its a MODERN firearm, my advice move the helll out of NYC and let the city fall to thugs and drugs
I say we invade NYC, thousands of ARFCOMMERS and others shouldering antique rifles marching through times square.
I am glad that you stuck to your guns on this case. Many people are spineless and would have rolled over by pleading quilty to get a light sentence.